Episode 118: My Little Podcast: Fandom Is Tragic

[Triggerhappy938]

I have this really bad habit of getting into things with horrible fans.  I love both Invader Zim and Homestuck, but I won't touch anything resembling an online community for either with a 10 foot pole.

[Runic]

I'll one up you, I'm both a Christian and a Socialist. At least the Bronies haven't set up any motherfucking gulags.

[chai tea latte]

My dad's fandom could totally beat up your dad's fandom.

[Runic]

That has been the premise of a rather distressing number of wars, historically speaking.

[NutshellGulag]

I'll one up you, I'm both a Christian and a Socialist. At least the Bronies haven't set up any motherfucking gulags.

Hey now!

[Triggerhappy938]

I'll one up you, I'm both a Christian and a Socialist. At least the Bronies haven't set up any motherfucking gulags.

Hey now!

Nutshell I didn't realize you were a Socialist.

[PurpleXVI]

Homestuck seems to share quite a lot with MLP, in that both have some genuinely talented people involved in the fandom producing quality fanworks, but these individuals are hugely overshadowed by the creepy nerds who appropriate everything in the original to reflect their own interests and shut-in point of view. The only thing that makes HS fans slightly better than bronies is that the official community has very strict rules about art involving minors in sexual situations, as well as minor/adult pairings. Sure, that stuff still exists in Tumblr and other shitholes like that, but at least nobody is openly campaigning for their moral right to draw inflation vore porn about 12-year-olds.

As far as I recall, canonically, literally every main character in Homestuck is 13 or 14 years old, so pretty much ALL of their porn and shipping is of that stripe, whether the "official community" has strict rules about it or not.

[montrith]

As far as I recall, canonically, literally every main character in Homestuck is 13 or 14 years old, so pretty much ALL of their porn and shipping is of that stripe, whether the "official community" has strict rules about it or not.

Oh, I'm not denying that people make creepy art about 14 year olds. I'm just saying that the official forum has a "absolutely no porny stuff" policy when it comes to underage characters. Pictures of characters hugging=okay, pictures of characters in their underwear=not okay.

The fandom is still shit though.

[fluffy]

This reminds me of the Tenchi Muyo fandom, who often go to great lengths to justify drawing porn of Sasami, who is 7 years old. Usually it's on the basis of how in one of the (many) versions of the story, she was in cryosleep for several hundred years, so "chronologically" she's several hundred years old. Or because she was killed and brought back to life by the spirit of a goddess, so therefore she's really an immortal goddess.  As if any of that changes the fact that she has the body and brain of a 7-year-old girl.

[Sherlockian]

This reminds me of the Tenchi Muyo fandom, who often go to great lengths to justify drawing porn of Sasami, who is 7 years old. Usually it's on the basis of how in one of the (many) versions of the story, she was in cryosleep for several hundred years, so "chronologically" she's several hundred years old. Or because she was killed and brought back to life by the spirit of a goddess, so therefore she's really an immortal goddess.  As if any of that changes the fact that she has the body and brain of a 7-year-old girl.

To be fair to Homestucks, most of the characters are actually 16 or so by the end of the comic (so far). I'd compare it to Harry Potter instead-- a long running series that starts with prepubescent characters but ends with characters in their late teens.

[crow]

The difference between Homestuck and MLP is that Homestuck fans are girls on tumblr and bronies are guys on tumblr.  World of difference.

[count_actuala]

The difference between Homestuck and MLP is that Homestuck fans are girls on tumblr and bronies are guys on tumblr.  World of difference.

Yeah, pretty much. It's kind of like how I see the Supernatural and Waifu episodes as sister entities.

[A Meat]

What I'm learning from this discussion is that the Touhou fandom is pretty much half MLP fandom and half Homestuck fandom, 'cause it's both girls and guys on tumblr. On the MLP side there are a shitload of female characters that are easily distinguished by an outside characteristic, and tons of remixes of the music. But on the Homestuck hand, lots of people who are part of the fandom haven't actually experienced the source material, just like with some Homestuck fandom people, and the source material is in a shitload of mediums, just like Homestuck.

Also, just like both fandoms, people just fucking love drawing/writing porn of underage characters (or underage-looking, no difference).

[Kaleidoscope]

I'm listening to this again (it's one of my faveorite episodes) and I remember the guy who sent that letter to kevin. When I was in the fandom (yes, I ashamed) this guy was considered to be weird even by brony standards. I think that got me is like this guy thinks he owns Twilight in some weird way. Okay, you have a crush on Twilight Sparkle. Alright. I've had crushes on animated charecters before but how can you even consider getting married to one? Why would you want to anyways? You can't hug or kiss a cartoon charecter. They're not real!

[Zekka]

A friend of mine came up with a novel solution to the problem of being asked to draw horrible fetish art -- she sends the requests to me and I do horrible photoshops instead.

Some guy was really obsessed with a particular Steven Universe character being drawn with dog ears, so I produced this: http://i.imgur.com/3Hk4ZIS.jpg .

That guy is also a huge fan of my music but all he asks me to do is more dubstep.  Up until recently I didn't think dubstep was a fetish, but I've been informed by ff.net that it is.