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Topic: Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin  (Read 32061 times)

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #75
  If a person commits to presenting as one gender, full-time, 100% but don't feel a need (or have the ability) to get medical alterations to their body, I don't see how that would make that person less that gender.  I understand that for many transfolks it's more about being treated as who you are than about what form your junk takes, so making "hates their body" a prerequisite for recognizing the appropriate gender is kind of fucked up.
Puppy Time, January 06, 2015, 03:40:42 pm
I'm gonna tuck a foot in your door real quick to say there's a big difference between "I do not experience dysphoria," and "I do not want what medical science can do for me right now, it is too limited/expensive at this time and for now my existential agony can be ameliorated by social recognition."

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #76
To be clear, what I'm referring to is people who identify and present as the gender they were designated at birth, but call themselves trans. Not genderqueer people, or people who identify one way but publicly present themselves as another, but people who by their own admission don't feel anything on the inside that would make them trans, but call themselves trans anyway.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #77
I wish that I was special...

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I wish that I was special...
Smoking Crow, January 06, 2015, 06:11:14 pm
so very special...

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #79
  If a person commits to presenting as one gender, full-time, 100% but don't feel a need (or have the ability) to get medical alterations to their body, I don't see how that would make that person less that gender.  I understand that for many transfolks it's more about being treated as who you are than about what form your junk takes, so making "hates their body" a prerequisite for recognizing the appropriate gender is kind of fucked up.
Puppy Time, January 06, 2015, 03:40:42 pm
I'm gonna tuck a foot in your door real quick to say there's a big difference between "I do not experience dysphoria," and "I do not want what medical science can do for me right now, it is too limited/expensive at this time and for now my existential agony can be ameliorated by social recognition."
THE TRUE JUICE, January 06, 2015, 03:53:37 pm

Well, yeah, no shit, but I have the impression there's a not-insignificant number of trans people who don't feel like they need a particular body fix, they just want to be treated as their own gender, and saying that this means they are somehow not-trans is weird. 

Of course, as a cisperson, I don't really get much of a say about it.  (Nor do I particularly care to.)

 
To be clear, what I'm referring to is people who identify and present as the gender they were designated at birth, but call themselves trans. Not genderqueer people, or people who identify one way but publicly present themselves as another, but people who by their own admission don't feel anything on the inside that would make them trans, but call themselves trans anyway.
fifty cents, January 06, 2015, 04:05:10 pm

Ugh, those douches.  I know someone like that IRL.  Generally not a cool person at all.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #80
Well, yeah, no shit, but I have the impression there's a not-insignificant number of trans people who don't feel like they need a particular body fix, they just want to be treated as their own gender, and saying that this means they are somehow not-trans is weird. 
Puppy Time, January 06, 2015, 08:52:39 pm

Definitely, I don't think anyone here would disagree with that. I think there's some confusion here because at some point the words "dysphoria" and "dysmorphia" got mixed up (I only just now realized they're two different things, oops)

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #81
I think there's some confusion here because at some point the words "dysphoria" and "dysmorphia" got mixed up (I only just now realized they're two different things, oops)
fifty cents, January 06, 2015, 09:07:17 pm

Aww, shit, I apparently forgot how to read!

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #82
I've listened to this episode so many times, it's in my top five F plus episodes.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #83
You know, listening to this episode again, I notice that the blog tags it as Merfolk and not Merkin, and that's disappointing.
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Where does one find such a bingo card?

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Where does one find such a bingo card?
Shell Game, June 14, 2017, 07:50:13 pm

Why, you can find it at https://thefpl.us/also-made/bingo
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Where does one find such a bingo card?
Shell Game, June 14, 2017, 07:50:13 pm

Why, you can find it at https://thefpl.us/also-made/bingo
Neal, June 14, 2017, 09:04:51 pm

Oh shit! I just realized that the http->https switch on thefpl.us ended up breaking the bingo card process. Just fixed.

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Where does one find such a bingo card?
Shell Game, June 14, 2017, 07:50:13 pm

Why, you can find it at https://thefpl.us/also-made/bingo
Neal, June 14, 2017, 09:04:51 pm

Oh shit! I just realized that the http->https switch on thefpl.us ended up breaking the bingo card process. Just fixed.
Lemon, June 14, 2017, 10:46:15 pm

Huh, I thought it was my dumb computer acting up. Thanks!