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Snakes In The Ball Pit => Announcements => Topic started by: Lemon on December 08, 2016, 12:44:41 pm

Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Lemon on December 08, 2016, 12:44:41 pm
I mean seriously, David Axelrod's podcast is on there and we aren't?

https://onion.typeform.com/to/FVMFu3

If you wrote in "The F Plus", I'd appreciate it. If instead you wrote in "I Don't Even Own A Television", Chris and J would appreciate it.  But if you vote for Freakonomics Radio, nobody is happy.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Yavuz on December 08, 2016, 01:31:53 pm
I gamed the system by voting for IDEOTV on my phone and the F Plus on my laptop. I guess that makes me one of those "voter fraud" people they keep talking about but never finding.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on December 08, 2016, 01:35:34 pm
I gamed the system by voting for IDEOTV on my phone and the F Plus on my laptop. I guess that makes me one of those "voter fraud" people they keep talking about but never finding.
Neşeli Sultan Selim the Hedgesultan, December 08, 2016, 01:31:53 pm
"I love to work at the onion post office and tear up the absentee ballots of people that vote for IDEOTV"
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: A Meat on December 08, 2016, 02:44:13 pm
I already voted for a REAL podcast, but I still mentioned you for next year, so maybe one day you'll be able to play with the big boys
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Lemon on May 17, 2017, 02:16:50 pm
I've said it before, but god fucking dammit I wish we had a Wikipedia page.

The internet at large uses "has a Wikipedia page" as a shorthand to "matters". Wikipedia itself has it's own ephemeral "notable" standard, which is just down to somebody's opinion. Knowledge Graphs heavily lean on Wikipedia as a crucial source.

I just wish I could figure out what would make The F Plus "notable" in Wikipedia's eyes, where many words can be spent on some very inconsequential shit.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Frank West on May 17, 2017, 02:35:32 pm
I've said it before, but god fucking dammit I wish we had a Wikipedia page.

The internet at large uses "has a Wikipedia page" as a shorthand to "matters". Wikipedia itself has it's own ephemeral "notable" standard, which is just down to somebody's opinion. Knowledge Graphs heavily lean on Wikipedia as a crucial source.

I just wish I could figure out what would make The F Plus "notable" in Wikipedia's eyes, where many words can be spent on some very inconsequential shit.
Lemon, May 17, 2017, 02:16:50 pm

Well, basically, wikipedia editors have to care about you.

So what I'm saying is, we do a wikipedia episode and really, really brutalize wikipedia editors. At least one of them will take so much offense he'll personally write up the article and be vigilant against it's deletion.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Lemon on May 17, 2017, 03:00:16 pm
So what I'm saying is, we do a wikipedia episode and really, really brutalize wikipedia editors. At least one of them will take so much offense he'll personally write up the article and be vigilant against it's deletion.
Frank West, May 17, 2017, 02:35:32 pm

I don't think I'm above this tactic.

As a semi-related aside, I'm not entirely sure what Wikidata (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page) is but on the guess that it provides some of the same sources, I made an entry (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29963899) for us today.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 17, 2017, 05:50:03 pm
In a practical sense, the thing that can get your article to stick on Wikipedia is having sources to cite. That's the big 'notability' criterion, at least in theory--Wikipedia is supposed to be built out of referenced information.  I've seen a lot of pages that use citations from the thing itself, but generally they also have citations from other sources too.  So if you can find articles people have written about The F Plus or times that you've been mentioned elsewhere, you've got a bigger chance of being notable.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Neal on May 17, 2017, 06:46:36 pm
Off topic, this reminds me that I saw someone had started, then gave up after two articles, on an F Plus Wikia site (http://thefplus.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page).

On topic, I agree with the above on finding links to people other than The F Plus talking about the podcast as a way to increase that ineffable "notability". There are a couple of older blog entries that might serve as a good start: one from Maximum Fun (http://www.maximumfun.org/2013/02/10/podthoughts-f-plus), and the other from Crave (http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1056504-10-must-listen-to-podcasts-you-dont-know-about), may fit the bill.
Title: Tilting at a windmill called public recognition.
Post by: Carbon on May 17, 2017, 09:36:38 pm
Trying to draw a meaningful line to wall that benefit off from that from the lively, completely incoherent discussions going on even now at OverflowingBra.com may, alas, prove a fool’s errand.
Ah, spoken like a true "podthinker".