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Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Lemon on May 22, 2016, 10:02:32 pm
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Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Zekka on May 22, 2016, 10:14:54 pm
The logical conclusion to draw is that I'm in hell.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Macho Masc Sangy Savage on May 22, 2016, 10:36:57 pm
Wait wait wait, Lemon just said "Big Rapids, Michigan". Dozerfleet lives in my state?

...uh, I need to call back those security system people who keep spamming my phone, brb.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Frank West on May 22, 2016, 10:56:05 pm
I'm sorry for my bad mic quality, everyone! My mic is apparently getting gradually worse, and it didn't show up in my audio test.

I'm not sorry for the rapping, though.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Zekka on May 22, 2016, 10:58:21 pm
I'm sorry for my bad mic quality, everyone! My mic is apparently getting gradually worse, and it didn't show up in my audio test.

I'm not sorry for the rapping, though.
Frank West, May 22, 2016, 10:56:05 pm
I didn't notice thanks to the fishtank pebbles I jammed behind my speaker jack, but I'll shed a preemptive tear for the future listeners this affects.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Yavuz on May 22, 2016, 11:12:25 pm
I'm holding off on listening to this until the morning, but just from skimming through the doc, it looks like this is going to be crazy. The "Dozerfleet Has Issues" section looks particularly nuts.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 22, 2016, 11:51:09 pm
The "Dozerfleet Has Issues" section of Dozerfleet's site is all of it.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Adam Bozarth on May 23, 2016, 01:12:54 am
Incidentally, I would define Dozerfleet Founder as a "Hackeytwerp."
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: A Meat on May 23, 2016, 02:31:11 am
DeYanged Cowboys is my favorite Borscht Western
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: DaltonSezHi on May 23, 2016, 03:06:13 am
IM GONNA LISTEN TO THIS TOMORROW DOZERFLEET IS ONE OF MY FAV EPISODES FUCK I GET THIS AND OVERWATCH IN THE SAME DAY?????
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on May 23, 2016, 06:36:22 am
Dozerfleet really should illustrate wikihow.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Sherman Tank on May 23, 2016, 06:47:38 am
I found even more Dozerfleet insanity (http://www.girlsaskguys.com/guys-behavior/q1547915-toon-dating-which-dozerfleet-heroine-most-appeals-to-you).
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Curious Robot on May 23, 2016, 08:07:23 am
Dozerfleet Founder doesn't like the gays, the Obama, the trans people, and is anti abortion and anti vaccination. (https://www.facebook.com/dozerfleetprod)

Also, this:

(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13255995_750598778410264_607850841501365585_n.jpg?oh=92ded377db70a71dd764a379d15c9a4d&oe=57E48A1B)

He is like an engineered Republican robot.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: cyclopeantrash on May 23, 2016, 08:08:11 am
I fell asleep while watching this episode and it gave me nightmares. Good episode.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Cleretic on May 23, 2016, 08:51:49 am
Something that really strikes me about Dozerfleet is his... honesty? About reality. Usually people this up their own asses are like the Not Always Right lot, making shit up liberally to puff themselves up and build a better story. If it's not them fellating themselves then it's going the other way, being overly dramatic and whiny while going through some form of 'woe is me'.

And then there's Dozerfleet, being totally honest in his own weird, faux-historic way. Aside from obvious 'passion projects' like Stationery Voyagers he's never lying, or embellishing. Whenever he talks about reception to his work it is obviously the real response to the thing he actually made, which he is accurately describing. You can't even play 'what really happened' with Dozerfleet, because he will straight-up tell you exactly what happened, including details that show that this tale is both complete and, if not unbiased, at least as objective as he can manage.

It's just a refreshing change to the Internet Usual, and I can't help but like Dozerfleet for being like that.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on May 23, 2016, 08:59:55 am
I'd actually never heard "Last Resort" prior to this episode, and now I can never unhear it as sung by Lemon.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on May 23, 2016, 09:51:57 am
This episode is pure joy.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Yavuz on May 23, 2016, 10:11:08 am
Jackal Slapnasty is the name of a yiffy fursona from the Pounced episode.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Sherman Tank on May 23, 2016, 10:14:56 am
I could stare at Portaxx's cover art for this episode for hours. It's amazing.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Knitting Machine on May 23, 2016, 02:02:40 pm
How can you fuck up trapezoids that badly?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: KingKalamari on May 23, 2016, 02:24:28 pm
From the wiki article for Trapezoid Kids:

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dozerfleet/images/0/06/EarlySketch.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120430230913)
The very first sketch of the Trapezoid Kids was not done originally as trapezoids, but squares. A total of 48 images were created for the ARTS 102 assignment, but not all of them looked like the one above. The above is an example of the "shaky" feeling or "tension."

Oh, really, you didn't submit the same image 48 times? However would we have known this if not for your careful elucidation oh master of the arts!

Initial concept
The second assignment of ARTS 102: Design and Communication Class at Lansing Community College for the Spring Semester 2003 Computer Animation program consisted of taking four black squares and arranging them on a canvas in such as way as to convey some abstract concept or another.

Tweaking the Trapezoids to life
The next step, upon gaining permission, was to distort just enough but not too much. After that assignment, the idea of the Trapezoids was so appealing, that they found their way into almost every single assignment. The few that didn't featured Grillitan Diner paraphernalia instead.

Can you imagine being this guy's teacher? There's no telling what inane piece of stupidity he'll become obsessed with and base all of his assignments around for years to come!
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on May 23, 2016, 02:31:48 pm
On the bright side, this guy's classmates must have some AMAZING stories to tell.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: LINDA on May 23, 2016, 03:46:54 pm
I was not emotionally or physically prepared for the songs  My coworker just asked me if i'm okay. I'm not okay. I will never be okay again.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Vinny Possum on May 23, 2016, 04:01:44 pm
Lemon (assuming you do most of the editing and adding songs), you have such stellar music taste.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: John Toast on May 23, 2016, 05:48:12 pm
Man, new Dozerfleet AND The Faint AND  that amazing album art? Is it my birthday? I think it's my birthday.

I am endlessly fascinated by these subjects, where people make up the ephemera of popularity as a kind of mastubatory real-life fanfic in the form of wikis and trivia repositories. It's a real testament to the rise of niche nerd culture when people can ape it so well and make up their own fan works so accurately.  And Dozerfleet is definitely the king of those people.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Bodark on May 23, 2016, 05:58:25 pm
It's actually my birthday, and this is a great gift. Should I send a thank-you card?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on May 23, 2016, 06:00:49 pm
Where do I donate for an animation of that bison? Is there a limit to how much I can donate?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Ras Shame-ra on May 23, 2016, 06:11:23 pm
Man, new Dozerfleet AND The Faint AND  that amazing album art? Is it my birthday? I think it's my birthday.

I am endlessly fascinated by these subjects, where people make up the ephemera of popularity as a kind of mastubatory real-life fanfic in the form of wikis and trivia repositories. It's a real testament to the rise of niche nerd culture when people can ape it so well and make up their own fan works so accurately.  And Dozerfleet is definitely the king of those people.
John Toast, May 23, 2016, 05:48:12 pm

I share your fascination. I feel like this is commonplace Internet 90s nostalgia, perfectly expressed, but experienced by someone who only had pens and rubber bands for toys and who was only allowed to watch Christian tv for a half hour a week. With different parents he would've been Ernest Cline.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: McMillan and Waifu on May 23, 2016, 06:15:25 pm
Hurray for more Dozerfleet, aka The F Plus: There But For The Grace of God Go I Edition

Dozerfleet Founder doesn't like the gays, the Obama, the trans people, and is anti abortion and anti vaccination. (https://www.facebook.com/dozerfleetprod)

Also, this:

(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13255995_750598778410264_607850841501365585_n.jpg?oh=92ded377db70a71dd764a379d15c9a4d&oe=57E48A1B)

He is like an engineered Republican robot.
Curious Robot, May 23, 2016, 08:07:23 am

Maybe I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I thought the three umbrellas stacked on top of each other represented the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha. Like you get in Christianity.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: JackalSlapNasty on May 23, 2016, 06:23:39 pm
I LIVE! You're welcome Portaxx!
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Isfahan on May 23, 2016, 06:46:16 pm
Regarding the what-did-we-learn thoughts at the end of the episode, I'd like to add that the readings reminded me very much of the Fantendo episode (https://thefpl.us/episode/107), where people with dreams of fame for putting out a thing everyone loved also want to skip the whole hard-work and possibility-of-failure parts of the deal and get straight to the satisfaction and adoration of being successful.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Spacebat on May 23, 2016, 06:58:07 pm
Did my comment on the Dozerfleet episode get deleted?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Vinny Possum on May 23, 2016, 07:00:19 pm
Did my comment on the Dozerfleet episode get deleted?
Spacebat, May 23, 2016, 06:58:07 pm
It didn't conform to the gay special privledge lobby's agenda.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Silent Liver Disease on May 23, 2016, 07:39:00 pm
I hope the karaoke bot gets more play in future episodes, nothing makes an episode better than a dab of F Plus Sings.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Cat Walking On Keyboard on May 23, 2016, 08:37:09 pm
I am way, way too proud of myself that I correctly guessed Creed as the only band parodied twice on that one album.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nikaer Drekin on May 23, 2016, 09:21:41 pm
Did my comment on the Dozerfleet episode get deleted?
Spacebat, May 23, 2016, 06:58:07 pm
It didn't conform to the gay special privledge lobby's agenda.
Vinny Possum, May 23, 2016, 07:00:19 pm

Um, excuse me, I think you mean the CROOKED RAINBOW!! They're everywhere, I tells ya!

What I learned from putting together the doc is that Dozerfleet is hilariously terrified and prudish about anything related to sex, and yet more than willing to be fucking gratuitous with the violence he puts in his "work." Like, how women who have sex are HORRIBLE HELL-BOUND SLUTS, but when he writes a parody song about brutally murdering said sluts (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Serial_Bomber_(song)) he seems to think that he's fighting the good fight.

It's weird.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Zekka on May 23, 2016, 09:24:36 pm
What I learned from putting together the doc is that Dozerfleet is hilariously terrified and prudish about anything related to sex, and yet more than willing to be fucking gratuitous with the violence he puts in his "work." Like, how women who have sex are HORRIBLE HELL-BOUND SLUTS, but when he writes a parody song about brutally murdering said sluts (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Serial_Bomber_(song)) he seems to think that he's fighting the good fight
Nikaer Drekin, May 23, 2016, 09:21:41 pm

The thing about comedy is that there's usually an element of surprise.

There's nothing surprising about that, so why am I laughing my ass off?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: McMillan and Waifu on May 23, 2016, 10:01:31 pm
Um, excuse me, I think you mean the CROOKED RAINBOW!! They're everywhere, I tells ya!

What I learned from putting together the doc is that Dozerfleet is hilariously terrified and prudish about anything related to sex, and yet more than willing to be fucking gratuitous with the violence he puts in his "work." Like, how women who have sex are HORRIBLE HELL-BOUND SLUTS, but when he writes a parody song about brutally murdering said sluts (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Serial_Bomber_(song)) he seems to think that he's fighting the good fight.

It's weird.
Nikaer Drekin, May 23, 2016, 09:21:41 pm

Isn't that a stereotypical crack about Americans, we're modern-day Puritans who can't deal with sex at all but have no problems with ultraviolence? Dozerfleet's a real life manifestation of that, I guess.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 23, 2016, 10:50:01 pm
A Stationery Voyagers episode that he actually wrote and submitted to a creative writing class. (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Wages_of_Cheating_Death)  He got an A on it, which is honestly surprising but might say more about the community college he went to. 

A Stationery Voyagers episode he wrote for someone's wedding, based on their actual wedding, casting the two of them as pens. (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Ties_That_Confide)  The Reception section is Dozerfleet for "they said thanks and didn't look at it."

And then the short docu-film he made for that person's wedding (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Ties_That_Confide:_Reception_Wishes) which he took down from Youtube because Youtube is corrupted by liberal gays.

Here is Dozerfleet's Sims webcomic (http://modthesims.info/article.php?t=337623)

Here is a poem he wrote for a test (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rock_Cycle_%28poem%29) about the rock cycle, "so that anyone could remember it" after his teacher decided to "milk biology for all it was worth".

He made a political ad (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Election_2010) to air on public access TV.

Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Zekka on May 23, 2016, 10:55:41 pm
Here is a poem he wrote for a test (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rock_Cycle_%28poem%29) about the rock cycle, "so that anyone could remember it" after his teacher decided to "milk biology for all it was worth".

He made a political ad (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Election_2010) to air on public access TV.
EYE OF ZA, May 23, 2016, 10:50:01 pm
the CROOKED RAINBOW has truly achieved its crooked ends once any schoolteacher can milk my biology.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on May 23, 2016, 10:59:44 pm
The Dozerfleet wiki is fucking perfect for the Andy Rooney Game.

A Tea Party favorite, Stacey easily won the nomination for the US Taxpayers Party of Michigan.

The founder spent a good share of free time in September trying to learn how to use Windows 7 and Sims 3, having been confined to Windows XP and Sims 2 for five years.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Spacebat on May 23, 2016, 11:03:59 pm
Oh, my comment was detected as spam. Thanks, Disqus.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Silent Liver Disease on May 23, 2016, 11:14:09 pm
David Stiefel's profile on the wiki is somewhat short and entertaining.

Frequently being around customers whilst bagging groceries proved an opportunity to enhance personal skill at public interaction.

Height    
5'8" (legally)
5'7.25" (technically)
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Frank West on May 23, 2016, 11:54:30 pm
To add to the list of "dozerfleet things he's actually done",  here's some of his music. (https://myspace.com/everyapeandhisbrother)

Lemon asked me to record "the best one" of these to use in the intro. When I sent him the two most usable, he fucking gave up and used the rapping clip he found instead.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: duz on May 24, 2016, 11:57:18 am
How can you fuck up trapezoids that badly?
Knitting Machine, May 23, 2016, 02:02:40 pm

When the only software the school's IT staff will let you run is PowerPoint, you have to make sacrifices for your vision.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on May 24, 2016, 03:39:22 pm

My favourite bit is at about 7:30, but the whole thing is pretty great.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Lemon on May 24, 2016, 03:48:03 pm
My favourite bit is at about 7:30, but the whole thing is pretty great.
moooo566, May 24, 2016, 03:39:22 pm
7:30? You're crazy. 8:45 is when the realness happens.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Yavuz on May 24, 2016, 05:35:50 pm
David Stiefel's profile on the wiki is somewhat short and entertaining.

Frequently being around customers whilst bagging groceries proved an opportunity to enhance personal skill at public interaction.
Silent Liver Disease, May 23, 2016, 11:14:09 pm

I guess posting your resume on your personal fantasy wiki is one way to look for jobs.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Amelia Blank on May 24, 2016, 05:36:09 pm
Wait?? Are we seeing the famed Dozerfleet Founder in the flesh before our very eyes????
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Really_Quite_Nice on May 24, 2016, 07:07:41 pm
I like the idea of a Dozerfleet episode once every two or three years.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nifty Nif on May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm
This episode continues one of my favorite conventions: Frank West does the girl voices and Portaxx does the boy voices.  What were you using for the karaoke?
I went back and listened to Dozerfleet 1, too.  A Dozerfleet marathon episode would be pretty cool as like a live event or something.  Frank West and Lemon are the only ridiculists in both!  How do y'all feel after exploring the... breadth of this guy's work?

This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.
  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: memorylikeasieve on May 24, 2016, 07:38:46 pm
Um, excuse me, I think you mean the CROOKED RAINBOW!! They're everywhere, I tells ya!

What I learned from putting together the doc is that Dozerfleet is hilariously terrified and prudish about anything related to sex, and yet more than willing to be fucking gratuitous with the violence he puts in his "work." Like, how women who have sex are HORRIBLE HELL-BOUND SLUTS, but when he writes a parody song about brutally murdering said sluts (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Serial_Bomber_(song)) he seems to think that he's fighting the good fight.

It's weird.
Nikaer Drekin, May 23, 2016, 09:21:41 pm

Isn't that a stereotypical crack about Americans, we're modern-day Puritans who can't deal with sex at all but have no problems with ultraviolence? Dozerfleet's a real life manifestation of that, I guess.
McMillan and Waifu, May 23, 2016, 10:01:31 pm

Sad thing is, I knew guys like that (and it was always guys) in high school and college.  They were sex-phobic, anti-everything except violence, and had this really weird tendency to cling to every idea and every interaction they ever had, possibly because both were so astonishingly rare.  I mean, both of those episodes reek of 90s geekdom so hard I could literally smell it.  It smells like must and unwashed doughy white people.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: dractivisionary on May 24, 2016, 09:32:00 pm
I wonder who is technically worse: Chris Chan or Dozerfleet?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: A Meat on May 24, 2016, 09:50:59 pm
The Dozerfleet wiki is kind of a big outsider art thing, it's just a microcosm of one person's psyche given zero filtering or editing. It's kind of fascinating
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Caroline on May 25, 2016, 03:33:14 am

My favourite bit is at about 7:30, but the whole thing is pretty great.
moooo566, May 24, 2016, 03:39:22 pm

I feel like Steven Seagal could make this work. In fact, I think this might be the plot of Fire Down Below.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on May 25, 2016, 03:41:39 am
This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

Let's not forget the man is violently homophobic, a little more than a tad racist, and an incredibly creepy stalker who likes to have women sold, raped and beheaded in his writing, because they're sluts (and he wrote them that way). Fantastic episode, yes, but I feel like you missed the bit where he uses his weird pen and trapezoid stories as a way to push his kind of horrifying agenda of revenge fantasies.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 25, 2016, 04:38:59 am
Dozerfleet seems very much like a product of his upbringing.  I can't get too deep into his stuff because it always comes back to this intense feeling of claustrophobia to me.  He's a kid who had one video game and two TV shows he was allowed to watch, and that combined with a never-ending supply of conservative Christanity blended with whatever untreated mental issues he has to produce this.

I've actually read a little bit of his stuff he wrote as prose, and it's weirdly surreal.  There's nothing overtly wrong with it, but the sense I got from reading it was that he doesn't really have original thoughts. And as insulting as that sounds, I mean it more as just an observation. Boy god does he have tap some insane creative vein with names, but his sentences feel like they're strung-together chunks of phrases he recalled hearing.  Nothing quite fits and everything happens in Tropes.  It's no surprise he loves TV Tropes and its building-blocks approach to fiction monster cockysis, because he writes like the collective unconscious of TV Tropes was given a word processor and nothing but Bibleman comic books.

The point of all of this is to say that I don't feel like Dozerfleet is a shithead, I think he's a space alien who imprinted on shitheads.  I think it's also why he embodies that stereotype of Americans McMillan and Waifu mentioned; he's just a blank slate that got fed that dogma for decades and he just stores and releases it without any of the social awareness that shitheads usually use to cover up the fact that they're shitheads.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on May 25, 2016, 05:47:59 am
That doesn't excuse anything, though. It's sad that he's been trapped in such a nasty little echo chamber, but he still says and does this shit. He still stood at the front of a class and told his classmates they were sluts who'd get aids. He still writes stories about beheading the women who have spurned him. Like all angry impotent idiots on the internet, the only real reason he isn't causing much harm is because he hasn't found a platform to speak from outside of a classroom, and that's as much luck as anything else.

One thing I think is quite interesting is that we seem to learn very little about his life outside of media and education. There's so many words about the newsletters he wrote to the girl who transferred schools to escape his stalking, and about the films he made in media class, but I can't find a single mention of his family on the wiki. His user page (which has his fucking CV for some reason) (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/David_Stiefel) mentions his church and that's about all I can find. I don't know what his upbringing was, really. I know he's an active lutheran, but beyond that, I've got no clue how echo chambery and sheltered his life was.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Frank West on May 25, 2016, 10:30:29 am
I don't really know that I agree with the idea that he only had a handful of shows he could watch as a kid. Maybe I'm wrong, but he reads to me like someone basically raised on a lot of cartoons, and the sims came out when he was 17, so if he's obsessed with that, it's by choice.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Gyro on May 25, 2016, 10:36:43 am
This episode continues one of my favorite conventions: Frank West does the girl voices and Portaxx does the boy voices.  What were you using for the karaoke?
I went back and listened to Dozerfleet 1, too.  A Dozerfleet marathon episode would be pretty cool as like a live event or something.  Frank West and Lemon are the only ridiculists in both!  How do y'all feel after exploring the... breadth of this guy's work?

This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

I'm pretty sure that Veggie Tales is the basis of, well, his entire psyche, I guess. Nothing else can explain why he keeps imagining boring-as-shit moralizing TV shows about kids who are inanimate objects / geometry clusterfucks.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: positive stress on May 25, 2016, 10:46:56 am
103 episodes later, I finally understand Lemon's "when you kissed he kissed they kissed" joke from Your Role Is Played Out
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: dractivisionary on May 25, 2016, 11:19:24 am
This episode continues one of my favorite conventions: Frank West does the girl voices and Portaxx does the boy voices.  What were you using for the karaoke?
I went back and listened to Dozerfleet 1, too.  A Dozerfleet marathon episode would be pretty cool as like a live event or something.  Frank West and Lemon are the only ridiculists in both!  How do y'all feel after exploring the... breadth of this guy's work?

This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

I'm pretty sure that Veggie Tales is the basis of, well, his entire psyche, I guess. Nothing else can explain why he keeps imagining boring-as-shit moralizing TV shows about kids who are inanimate objects / geometry clusterfucks.
Gyro, May 25, 2016, 10:36:43 am
Veggie Tales! Why didn't I think of this. Me and my sister used to watch this all the time when we were kids. Not sure why as our family is not really religious (besides celebrating religious holidays like Easter or hanukkah).
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Down10 on May 25, 2016, 01:26:50 pm
Dozerfleet is certainly a head case of because he seems to want to be three separate things:
He is very accomplished on the fan club aspect, but he somehow skipped the part of actually putting in the working hours to produce these beloved creations.

Which brings up the third aspect, which probably explains why he hasn't created too much. A big part of being a successful creator is learning what makes something appealing, interacting with other creators and editors, testing ideas and refining them, growing as an artist. He hasn't done that, and his obviously toxic anti-social personality will make it unlikely for him to gain contacts or help from possible advisors. He complains about liberal media indoctrination, yet he clearly is inspired by popular media and desires to create his own brand of media that would push his own personal agenda. Maybe if he stopped railing against the Crooked Rainbow and started working on and defining his creations beyond wiki articles, he would get where he wants to be, but it would take a certain amount of self-awareness, humility, and willingness to learn. This doesn't seem to be a priority for him, because most of his perspiration seems to be on wiki maintenance.

Great episode, guys!
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on May 25, 2016, 03:10:31 pm
You think he'd make more if it turned out there were people interested in consuming it? Because I'd probably watch stationery voyagers out of morbid curiosity, if that's enough.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nifty Nif on May 25, 2016, 05:57:58 pm
This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

Let's not forget the man is violently homophobic, a little more than a tad racist, and an incredibly creepy stalker who likes to have women sold, raped and beheaded in his writing, because they're sluts (and he wrote them that way). Fantastic episode, yes, but I feel like you missed the bit where he uses his weird pen and trapezoid stories as a way to push his kind of horrifying agenda of revenge fantasies.
moooo566, May 25, 2016, 03:41:39 am

Yikes!  I was being overly charitable.  Thanks for the reminder.  I wouldn't say I missed it, I just opted not to discuss it here.  Sorry to appear as if I was endorsing his ideas, which I agree are 100% reprehensible.  His misogyny, racism, and homophobia that he wraps into all of the plots of his stories are horrifying.  That's not really an adequate word to describe it, but that's the best I have right now.

To elaborate, the "desire to publish every idea he has" was a half-formed thought that stemmed from me thinking about his loneliness, his incredibly narrow echo chamber, and doing some armchair psychology about his (likely) conservative upbringing and why all of his stories are violent revenge fantasies.  I suppose I was musing about why his thoughts (which aren't all that different from your average reprehensible creep's) absolutely had to be preserved in wiki form.  I really apologize for giving him the benefit of the doubt, it was uncalled-for.  I should have thought that through before posting it.  I clearly still haven't thought it all the way through.  Anyway, my bad.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: McMillan and Waifu on May 25, 2016, 08:09:36 pm
I've actually read a little bit of his stuff he wrote as prose, and it's weirdly surreal.  There's nothing overtly wrong with it, but the sense I got from reading it was that he doesn't really have original thoughts.
EYE OF ZA, May 25, 2016, 04:38:59 am

Let's not forget the man is violently homophobic, a little more than a tad racist, and an incredibly creepy stalker who likes to have women sold, raped and beheaded in his writing, because they're sluts (and he wrote them that way).
moooo566, May 25, 2016, 03:41:39 am

"There is an idea of Dozerfleet. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real him. Only an entity, something illusory."
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Positronic on May 25, 2016, 09:03:05 pm
Bahh, there are too many things I wanted to draw from this episode! But I decided to go with the frogs because they seemed cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/jeFVqwo.png?1)

I'd kind of love to watch Dozerfleet give his Trapezoid Kids-filled powerpoint presentation on Captain Planet misinforming children about HIV. From a safe distance, because I'm sure he starts frothing at the mouth whenever he says "AIDS!".
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Zekka on May 25, 2016, 09:18:28 pm
This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

Let's not forget the man is violently homophobic, a little more than a tad racist, and an incredibly creepy stalker who likes to have women sold, raped and beheaded in his writing, because they're sluts (and he wrote them that way). Fantastic episode, yes, but I feel like you missed the bit where he uses his weird pen and trapezoid stories as a way to push his kind of horrifying agenda of revenge fantasies.
moooo566, May 25, 2016, 03:41:39 am

Yikes!  I was being overly charitable.  Thanks for the reminder.  I wouldn't say I missed it, I just opted not to discuss it here.  Sorry to appear as if I was endorsing his ideas, which I agree are 100% reprehensible.  His misogyny, racism, and homophobia that he wraps into all of the plots of his stories are horrifying.  That's not really an adequate word to describe it, but that's the best I have right now.

To elaborate, the "desire to publish every idea he has" was a half-formed thought that stemmed from me thinking about his loneliness, his incredibly narrow echo chamber, and doing some armchair psychology about his (likely) conservative upbringing and why all of his stories are violent revenge fantasies.  I suppose I was musing about why his thoughts (which aren't all that different from your average reprehensible creep's) absolutely had to be preserved in wiki form.  I really apologize for giving him the benefit of the doubt, it was uncalled-for.  I should have thought that through before posting it.  I clearly still haven't thought it all the way through.  Anyway, my bad.
Nifty Nif, May 25, 2016, 05:57:58 pm

I've actually known a few people who said and did horrible shit because they learned it from their relatives without thinking about it -- they would unintrospectively say nasty things about gay people and women when those people weren't in the room because their similarly conservative and weird family kept encouraging them to vomit it out. It was really hard to see them as genuinely motivated by hate.

Dozerfleet on the other hand seems to have really internalized a lot of this stuff, even though I don't think he understands it.

By the way I was not raised Christian but I really liked VeggieTales.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nifty Nif on May 25, 2016, 09:56:33 pm
This guy seems to have nothing other than his own extremely bmonster cock suburban experiences to draw from.  His honesty is refreshing, but his total lack of self-awareness is bizarre, and his desire to publish every idea he has ever had is... well, I guess understandable if he has nothing else going on.  Maybe I'm being overly charitable.  It was a fantastic episode, anyway.
Nifty Nif, May 24, 2016, 07:26:19 pm

Let's not forget the man is violently homophobic, a little more than a tad racist, and an incredibly creepy stalker who likes to have women sold, raped and beheaded in his writing, because they're sluts (and he wrote them that way). Fantastic episode, yes, but I feel like you missed the bit where he uses his weird pen and trapezoid stories as a way to push his kind of horrifying agenda of revenge fantasies.
moooo566, May 25, 2016, 03:41:39 am

Yikes!  I was being overly charitable.  Thanks for the reminder.  I wouldn't say I missed it, I just opted not to discuss it here.  Sorry to appear as if I was endorsing his ideas, which I agree are 100% reprehensible.  His misogyny, racism, and homophobia that he wraps into all of the plots of his stories are horrifying.  That's not really an adequate word to describe it, but that's the best I have right now.

To elaborate, the "desire to publish every idea he has" was a half-formed thought that stemmed from me thinking about his loneliness, his incredibly narrow echo chamber, and doing some armchair psychology about his (likely) conservative upbringing and why all of his stories are violent revenge fantasies.  I suppose I was musing about why his thoughts (which aren't all that different from your average reprehensible creep's) absolutely had to be preserved in wiki form.  I really apologize for giving him the benefit of the doubt, it was uncalled-for.  I should have thought that through before posting it.  I clearly still haven't thought it all the way through.  Anyway, my bad.
Nifty Nif, May 25, 2016, 05:57:58 pm

I've actually known a few people who said and did horrible shit because they learned it from their relatives without thinking about it -- they would unintrospectively say nasty things about gay people and women when those people weren't in the room because their similarly conservative and weird family kept encouraging them to vomit it out. It was really hard to see them as genuinely motivated by hate.

Dozerfleet on the other hand seems to have really internalized a lot of this stuff, even though I don't think he understands it.

By the way I was not raised Christian but I really liked VeggieTales.
Zekka, May 25, 2016, 09:18:28 pm

Let me just make one thing clear before this conversation goes any further:
I did not intend my comment about Dozerfleet publishing his work in wiki form to reflect on the actual content of his work.  I do understand that the two are intertwined, but please know that there are separate conversations being had here.  I was incorrect in using the word "understandable" and commenting on his honesty.  I do not endorse his hate in any way, and if anyone wants to have a serious discussion about racism, misogyny, or homophobia, I would be happy to discuss this in another thread.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nemo2342 on May 26, 2016, 01:36:18 am
That doesn't excuse anything, though. It's sad that he's been trapped in such a nasty little echo chamber, but he still says and does this shit. He still stood at the front of a class and told his classmates they were sluts who'd get aids. He still writes stories about beheading the women who have spurned him. Like all angry impotent idiots on the internet, the only real reason he isn't causing much harm is because he hasn't found a platform to speak from outside of a classroom, and that's as much luck as anything else.

One thing I think is quite interesting is that we seem to learn very little about his life outside of media and education. There's so many words about the newsletters he wrote to the girl who transferred schools to escape his stalking, and about the films he made in media class, but I can't find a single mention of his family on the wiki. His user page (which has his fucking CV for some reason) (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/David_Stiefel) mentions his church and that's about all I can find. I don't know what his upbringing was, really. I know he's an active lutheran, but beyond that, I've got no clue how echo chambery and sheltered his life was.
moooo566, May 25, 2016, 05:47:59 am

I don't know if this still exists on his wiki, but I found it in the original SA thread (bolding mine):

What's Hot This Year 1999 posted:

    [He starts working at a grocery store and injures his leg while mowing the lawn.]

    The lawn mower accident had repercussions outside of simply having to wear an unpleasant cast. The Dozerfleet founder was originally going to be starting work at Meijer in June. His start date was moved to July 19th because of the injury. While Doug and Cindy, the two main managers, were fairly understanding; Scott was a bit of a jerk about it. As the Dozerfleet founder was healing, he wanted to visit Carly in person.

    His grandmother made him promise not to enter her house unless someone else was there. But he didn't think to ask her if she was alone or not over the phone because he feared that would sound weird.

    Upon biking to her house, being careful not to rip any of the few-remaining stitches, he found she was alone, and standing around wearing a yellow bath robe. She offered to invite him in, but he decided against it because he didn't want to lie to his grandma.

    They talked for a bit outside, but the mosquitoes were really think and began biting her. He decided to end their time together on the porch prematurely, since she was getting eaten alive and didn't appreciate his reluctance to step inside where it was safe.

    He told his grandma how terrible it was to force Carly to have to get bitten; but the grandma didn't care. She was more worried that *someone* somewhere was going to start spreading rumors if the Dozerfleet founder went inside Carly's house. And that "mattered more" than the actual harm done by causing a girl to get eaten alive by mosquitoes. It was the first time he'd ever actually regretted listening to his grandma's advice.

I'm not sure what else he has hidden about his family on that wiki, but I feel like this speaks volumes about what his upbringing must have been like.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 26, 2016, 10:44:47 pm
Did you guys know that Dozerfleet invented "a webcomic that might have video"? (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/DSHW)

The planned third version of DSHW would have come in two main flavors: Basic and Throwback. Specified along with automation options, there are a total of six children that make up the third generation of this format: DSHW-3-BA, DSHW-3-BS, DSHW-3-BM, DSHW-3-TA, DSHW-3-TS, and DSHW-3-TM. The BM and TM versions would be the most common, since the automation in BA and TA are for very special occasions where full DVD script behavior is desired. The BS and TS would also be rare, as those semi-automatic versions are only beneficial for short slideshow DSHWs.

What makes version 3 unique is that unlike the previous two versions, there are no actual HTML pages for the Story Page to link to. The navigation simply exchanges virtual page values from a database as commanded by JavaScript. The Chapter Selection Page activates the Story Page and, based on the chapter selected, inserts those values. Version 3 may have resembled a simple port of the technology to the layout of 2 (Basic) or it may apply it to version 1's layout (Throwback.) Therefore, only the Main Menu, Story Page, and Chapter Selection Menu, and Extra Features pages would have been actual HTML files. Everything else would have been either specified in JavaScript or in a value database.

As the DSHW format grows more complex, software would have ideally been developed to make creation of such sites easy for novice site creators. However, the implementation of HTML5 and MotionBook format essentially rendered kaput further DSHW format development, making MotionBook the winner of the format war.

He's also written papers about it (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Proposal:_DSHW_for_Dummies)

Since Dozerfleet Productions’ own comics division, Dozerfleet Comics, is made primarily of DSHW-formatted comics, the founder of Dozerfleet is considered ideal to write on the subject of how to construct one.

Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on May 26, 2016, 10:51:34 pm
Take a minute and think of what a "Niles-n'-Plebian Kranny (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Niles-n'-Plebian_Kranny)" would be before you click that link.

The term "Kranny" is a portmanteu of "Kindle" and "cranny," with "cranny" coming from the phrase "every nook and cranny." The "Niles" part combines "Barnes" with the Nile River, which is longer than the Amazon. "Plebian" is an antonym for "Noble," hence its usage. The "Huestream" refers to it being in color like the Nook Color/Tablet, while referring to a stream as in a stream of water. This makes it the fire vs. water counterpart to the Kindle "Fire."

Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on May 26, 2016, 10:55:39 pm
Take a minute and think of what a "Niles-n'-Plebian Kranny (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Niles-n'-Plebian_Kranny)" would be before you click that link.

The term "Kranny" is a portmanteu of "Kindle" and "cranny," with "cranny" coming from the phrase "every nook and cranny." The "Niles" part combines "Barnes" with the Nile River, which is longer than the Amazon. "Plebian" is an antonym for "Noble," hence its usage. The "Huestream" refers to it being in color like the Nook Color/Tablet, while referring to a stream as in a stream of water. This makes it the fire vs. water counterpart to the Kindle "Fire."
EYE OF ZA, May 26, 2016, 10:51:34 pm
Now I'm really glad I didn't read Thomas Pynchon's most recent novel
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Yavuz on May 26, 2016, 11:54:40 pm
This guy puts an exhaustive amount of effort into his bullshit. I mean, it's not just the wiki, because that's the sort of thing even someone like I could do. But he has to develop his own dumb file formats to put his bullshit into. How does he have time to be this meticulous about all this shit?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: cube abuser on May 27, 2016, 01:38:47 am
Take a minute and think of what a "Niles-n'-Plebian Kranny (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Niles-n'-Plebian_Kranny)" would be before you click that link.

The term "Kranny" is a portmanteu of "Kindle" and "cranny," with "cranny" coming from the phrase "every nook and cranny." The "Niles" part combines "Barnes" with the Nile River, which is longer than the Amazon. "Plebian" is an antonym for "Noble," hence its usage. The "Huestream" refers to it being in color like the Nook Color/Tablet, while referring to a stream as in a stream of water. This makes it the fire vs. water counterpart to the Kindle "Fire."
EYE OF ZA, May 26, 2016, 10:51:34 pm

i can only imagine that The Dozerfleet Founder's room looks like this
(http://i.imgur.com/a81FuEU.jpg)
except with conservapedia articles and pictures of girls from his high school
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: memorylikeasieve on May 27, 2016, 03:19:28 am
This guy puts an exhaustive amount of effort into his bullshit. I mean, it's not just the wiki, because that's the sort of thing even someone like I could do. But he has to develop his own dumb file formats to put his bullshit into. How does he have time to be this meticulous about all this shit?
Yavuz Sultan Selim, May 26, 2016, 11:54:40 pm

No job, no social life, lives with his parents, I'm guessing.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Psammetichus on May 29, 2016, 02:09:00 pm
Some things that jumped out at me during the episode:

i) He is obviously influenced heavily by Wikipedia, as evidenced by him including a "Reception" sub-heading even for stupid, five-minute school presentations. For example, the page for his his movie Blood Over Water, follows the standard Wikipedia format: plot summary, cast and crew, development/production, music, distribution, see also, etc. Also, you can tell he's trying to imitate the academic, somewhat cold style of writing that's found on Wikipedia. (Also, he's obviously heavily influenced by Wikipedia given the whole, y'know, wiki thing.)

ii) I find that a lot of weirdos — including and especially Dozerfleet — possess something which verges on obsession with their time spent in high-school college (cf. Chris-Chan, etc.) Why? Honestly, I think the reason these guys are so nostalgic for high-school is because people were forced to interact with them. In high-school, people would be forced to sit by Dozerfleet, do group projects with Dozerfleet, etc. But now that these same people have the option to hang-out with Dozerfleet or not, it's not surprising everyone chooses the latter. But they didn't have that choice in high-school.

iii) He's a member of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the most conservative mainstream Lutheran synod in the USA. For a point of comparison, Michelle Bachmann belongs to the same synod. (And it's no coincidence that Dozerfleet is a big Michelle Bachmann fan.)

Anyway, want to guess how old Dozerfleet is? The answer: Thirty-three years old. The wiki must be his full-time job or something, since he hasn't been employed since August 2011. Guess where he was born? Florida, of course.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: dractivisionary on May 29, 2016, 04:46:40 pm
Some things that jumped out at me during the episode:

i) He is obviously influenced heavily by Wikipedia, as evidenced by him including a "Reception" sub-heading even for stupid, five-minute school presentations. For example, the page for his his movie Blood Over Water, follows the standard Wikipedia format: plot summary, cast and crew, development/production, music, distribution, see also, etc. Also, you can tell he's trying to imitate the academic, somewhat cold style of writing that's found on Wikipedia. (Also, he's obviously heavily influenced by Wikipedia given the whole, y'know, wiki thing.)

ii) I find that a lot of weirdos — including and especially Dozerfleet — possess something which verges on obsession with their time spent in high-school college (cf. Chris-Chan, etc.) Why? Honestly, I think the reason these guys are so nostalgic for high-school is because people were forced to interact with them. In high-school, people would be forced to sit by Dozerfleet, do group projects with Dozerfleet, etc. But now that these same people have the option to hang-out with Dozerfleet or not, it's not surprising everyone chooses the latter. But they didn't have that choice in high-school.

iii) He's a member of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the most conservative mainstream Lutheran synod in the USA. For a point of comparison, Michelle Bachmann belongs to the same synod. (And it's no coincidence that Dozerfleet is a big Michelle Bachmann fan.)

Anyway, want to guess how old Dozerfleet is? The answer: Thirty-three years old. The wiki must be his full-time job or something, since he hasn't been employed since August 2011. Guess where he was born? Florida, of course.
Psammetichus, May 29, 2016, 02:09:00 pm
Florida?! why must he live in the same state as me?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Bodark on May 29, 2016, 05:02:06 pm
The thing about Dozerfleet (besides the fact that this guy is an insufferable bigot, and a sorry excuse for a human being) is that if he put the same amount of effort into any ONE of his non-existent endeavors that he does his fucking wiki, he could be legitimately successful, but he can't take criticism. What the fuck did his professors know, right? Obviously everything he thinks up is flawless and amazing, so he doesn't need to change it. Those fucking philistines out there don't know quality, so he's going to keep it to himself until the people come to him and make him a media company and have him the their omnipotent god boss. The concepts were the most important part, and he's already done them.

He even included the part where they're all mega-hits, so why isn't everyone worshiping flocking to him, already?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: adrenochrome dome on May 30, 2016, 12:37:50 am
I've always been uncomfortably fascinated with Dozerfleet, and his deviantArt journal (http://bulldozerivan.deviantart.com/journal) is the blog I've never been able to find.

If it weren't for the thousands of hours of work on display (okay, "work"), I wouldn't believe he was real. He complained about  a joke made by Tony Stark because it involved radiometric dating.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on May 30, 2016, 01:25:25 am
I've always been uncomfortably fascinated with Dozerfleet, and his deviantArt journal (http://bulldozerivan.deviantart.com/journal) is the blog I've never been able to find.

If it weren't for the thousands of hours of work on display (okay, "work"), I wouldn't believe he was real. He complained about  a joke made by Tony Stark because it involved radiometric dating.
Tao Te Chump, May 30, 2016, 12:37:50 am

holy shit. he basically has one follower. So much documented irrelevance.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: adrenochrome dome on May 30, 2016, 01:38:02 am
Somehow he made a... "parody?" of Orange is the New Black. I don't understand how he could bear to even hear it summarized. Please note the name of the center character.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nifty Nif on May 30, 2016, 01:47:46 am
Somehow he made a... "parody?" of Orange is the New Black. I don't understand how he could bear to even hear it summarized. Please note the name of the center character.
Tao Te Chump, May 30, 2016, 01:38:02 am

The man knows how to hold a grudge.  True love never dies.  I hope Carly lives in another country now.

Well, I'm already pumped for next year's Dozerfleet episode. His DeviantArt journal is upsettingly current, and I never knew that feature existed--probably because nobody should ever use it.  This man is so committed to leaving an imaginary legacy.  I'm sure there is something, some nugget deep in the back of his head, some implicit fear about being forgotten and alone forever, and one day he will be dead and his ideas--his perfect, misunderstood ideas--will be gone forever.  I suppose this is what he will keep doing at this rate until he decides to stop, but his horrible ideas are his jam.  I guess this way Dozerfleet Productions will never run out of content.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on May 30, 2016, 01:50:16 am
her hair is a bsod

:(
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Cleretic on May 30, 2016, 01:59:52 am
This man is so committed to leaving an imaginary legacy.
Nifty Nif, May 30, 2016, 01:47:46 am
And his 'work' is so extensive, and decentralized that he's going to, I'm sure. It's going to be damn near impossible to completely lose Dozerfleet, across all the different websites he uses.

If someone as... verbose as Dozerfleet existed at any point in the past, we would know EVERYTHING about how people at that point in history lived. I mean sure, there's Facebook and Twitter and such providing a greater picture of that in today's times, but that's ultimately personally curated. Dozerfleet has detailed so much of his life that, even if you had literally no other context of how life was like in his time and place, you could still piece together what a normal person's life was through it. Dozerfleet sure isn't normal, but he has extensively documented his interactions with the normal world.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: adrenochrome dome on May 30, 2016, 02:10:28 am
If future scholars only had Dozerfleet to document the present, history books would include a chapter on the dystopian hellscape ruled by militant gay libtard girls-who-would-not-date-me.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Cheapskate on May 30, 2016, 04:59:48 pm
Somehow he made a... "parody?" of Orange is the New Black. I don't understand how he could bear to even hear it summarized. Please note the name of the center character.
Tao Te Chump, May 30, 2016, 01:38:02 am

The one on the right is named Emily after the other girl he sent newsletters to. (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphinformia)
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: adrenochrome dome on May 30, 2016, 05:31:40 pm
Somehow he made a... "parody?" of Orange is the New Black. I don't understand how he could bear to even hear it summarized. Please note the name of the center character.
Tao Te Chump, May 30, 2016, 01:38:02 am

The one on the right is named Emily after the other girl he sent newsletters to. (http://dozerfleet.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphinformia)
Cheapskate, May 30, 2016, 04:59:48 pm

Oh my God, I forgot about that. That she died makes it more fucked up than most of his obsessions, in my opinion. Here's one of his classic sentences that says volumes (emphasis mine):

At Dozerfleet Productions in particular, the Dozerfleet founder was overcome with emotion at the prospect of her passing. He immediately pried for details, and learned of when the memorial would be held.

That had to be a terrible experience for her family.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: memorylikeasieve on May 30, 2016, 05:37:32 pm
...I think I finally put a finger on what unnerves me so much about Dozerfleet.  He reminds me far too much of this guy I knew who started stalking me after a while.  Brrr.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Bodark on May 30, 2016, 07:56:25 pm
Oh my God, I forgot about that. That she died makes it more fucked up than most of his obsessions, in my opinion.
Tao Te Chump, May 30, 2016, 05:31:40 pm

I choose to believe that she's not actually dead, and was actually the mastermind this elaborate last-ditch effort to keep him the fuck away from her.

She's probably alive and well in South Africa.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on May 30, 2016, 09:32:30 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
As our first Ballp.it charity, I propose Dime-bags for Dozerfleet
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Gyro on May 30, 2016, 09:55:52 pm
If Dozerfleet put time into actually making things: http://adventuresofsquare.com/
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Adam Bozarth on May 30, 2016, 10:01:44 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
I'll do all 3 for free
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nifty Nif on May 30, 2016, 10:27:15 pm
If Dozerfleet put time into actually making things: http://adventuresofsquare.com/
Gyro, May 30, 2016, 09:55:52 pm

The brilliant Doctor Octagon has been kidnapped!

Oh shit!  I get to play Chex Quest and save Kool Keith!
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: dractivisionary on May 31, 2016, 12:11:38 am
If Dozerfleet put time into actually making things: http://adventuresofsquare.com/
Gyro, May 30, 2016, 09:55:52 pm
Honestly, this feels a little unfair to the people making Adventure of Square. So far it seems actually pretty good imho. I mean yeah its technically a mod of Doom but the art and music of the game is well done, plus it has the gameplay of Doom.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nickel_Nips on June 01, 2016, 12:30:01 am
This dude is just insanely depressing to me. Like, to be a human being that wants to create something so badly, and sit there trying to force your imagination to come up with a new and exciting idea, any idea at all ... and the best he can muster is quadrangles. Or like, a blue pen. That's so upsetting.

But more importantly how the hell has Dozerfleet even HEARD of South Park?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on June 01, 2016, 01:10:36 am

But more importantly how the hell has Dozerfleet even HEARD of South Park?
Nickel_Nips, June 01, 2016, 12:30:01 am

That shit was EVERYWHERE in the late 90's/ early 2000's.

If dude is 33, that means he was in high school at that time. If that's true, even a cloistered religious shut-in couldn't avoid it.

Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: JackalSlapNasty on June 01, 2016, 11:42:42 pm
Can I get just a sound bite of lemon doing the "Da Dip" reference? I don't know why but that just made my heart happy. XD
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Dawnswalker on June 02, 2016, 03:03:15 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
I'll do all 3 for free
Adam Bozarth, May 30, 2016, 10:01:44 pm

Are you sure? He strikes me as the type who'll be really possessive and clingy afterward.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Neal on June 02, 2016, 05:15:42 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
I'll do all 3 for free
Adam Bozarth, May 30, 2016, 10:01:44 pm

Are you sure? He strikes me as the type who'll be really possessive and clingy afterward.
Dawnswalker, June 02, 2016, 03:03:15 pm

Don't ruin Adam's chance to get some really sweet newsletters about dogs eating tomatoes.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Adam Bozarth on June 02, 2016, 08:07:16 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
I'll do all 3 for free
Adam Bozarth, May 30, 2016, 10:01:44 pm

Are you sure? He strikes me as the type who'll be really possessive and clingy afterward.
Dawnswalker, June 02, 2016, 03:03:15 pm

Not after a good ol' fashioned Bozarth toke-and-fuck. Because I will put his ass to SLEEP 🚬😗💨
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: John Toast on June 03, 2016, 12:46:57 pm
This dude needs to get high, get fucked, and get the shit beat out of him, in that order.
FattyBoBatty, May 30, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
I'll do all 3 for free
Adam Bozarth, May 30, 2016, 10:01:44 pm

Are you sure? He strikes me as the type who'll be really possessive and clingy afterward.
Dawnswalker, June 02, 2016, 03:03:15 pm

Not after a good ol' fashioned Bozarth toke-and-fuck. Because I will put his ass to SLEEP 🚬😗💨
Adam Bozarth, June 02, 2016, 08:07:16 pm

Then he'll be calling you Nyquil (as in the ambulatory bottle of medicine character he created who is a huge slut and dies of every STD ever at the end of each episode).
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Sherman Tank on June 06, 2016, 07:34:10 am
Dozerfleet is what happens when you mix untreated autism with the strictest types of hateful fundamentalist puritanical Protestantism.

That's not to imply that you can't find equally crazy and bigoted Catholics or Orthodox Christians, but Dozerfleet's hatred has a very American Protestant flavor to it.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: I Liked That Joke on November 26, 2018, 11:06:37 am
Are we gonna get another Dozerfleet episode for 303, continuing the every 91 episode tradition that has clearly been established?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Pavlova on November 28, 2018, 01:52:17 am
What I really encourage if you want to kill your productivity for the day and also lose the will to live is to go on the Dozerfleet wiki, click the random page link and see how long it takes to find an article that's not a stub.

Reader, it look me a long fucking time.

That's also a mind-numbing and depressing way to create a doc if we're looking for a Dozerfleet part three too.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: I Liked That Joke on November 28, 2018, 02:37:52 pm
I think an interesting section of a part 3 would be the collaborators. He seems to have paid a couple of models and deviant artists, and he goes on these weird little spiels about their careers as if they even remember working with him.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Nikaer Drekin on November 30, 2018, 08:30:48 pm
One area I definitely feel like I missed when I was putting this doc together was Dozerfleet's recipes, mostly because he seems to post those on tumblr rather than the actual wiki- Jack Chick already made some of that weird-ass food on here, but I think that's something that could definitely be covered on the podcast as well!

I'd be glad to start finding some more stuff if there's interest in a new Dozerfleet doc- maybe we could set up a collaborative google doc if a few people are interested?
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Napoleon on January 04, 2023, 12:47:57 pm
Sorry to bump the thread of a 7 year old episode but

Trapezoid Kids real (https://deadline.com/2023/01/apple-tv-kids-amp-families-slate-animated-series-shape-island-based-shapes-trilogy-1235210840)

Thank you

Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: xdaringdamselx on January 04, 2023, 07:01:55 pm
Sorry to bump the thread of a 7 year old episode but

Trapezoid Kids real (https://deadline.com/2023/01/apple-tv-kids-amp-families-slate-animated-series-shape-island-based-shapes-trilogy-1235210840)

Thank you
Napoleon, January 04, 2023, 12:47:57 pm
but do they sing the computer data module song or whatever it was, and dance vaudeville style, this is the most important part
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: A Simple Farming Goblin on February 05, 2023, 11:49:23 am
As a writer, my postmodernist white whale is to write an entire wiki for a fictional work that would be modeled off of Dozerfleet where half the narrative would be more about the wiki writer than the work. Dozerfleet is like if a Borges story were real
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: A Meat on February 05, 2023, 12:21:41 pm
As a writer, my postmodernist white whale is to write an entire wiki for a fictional work that would be modeled off of Dozerfleet where half the narrative would be more about the wiki writer than the work. Dozerfleet is like if a Borges story were real
A Simple Farming Goblin, February 05, 2023, 11:49:23 am
please don't Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius Dozerfleet into this world
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 05, 2023, 02:35:51 pm
welcome to the hronir wiki at uqbar.fandom.com
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: Ugly In The Morning on April 28, 2023, 12:33:23 pm
I would do unholy things for a Dozerfleet Pt 3. I was just listening to the two episodes on him last week and they’re just so good.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: dractivisionary on April 30, 2023, 10:21:31 pm
I would do unholy things for a Dozerfleet Pt 3. I was just listening to the two episodes on him last week and they’re just so good.
Ugly In The Morning, April 28, 2023, 12:33:23 pm
I tried to look into more stuff he did but iirc there wasn't much else besides maybe going more into the Sims stuff he did, it mostly is just like his shit tier political opinions which he posts about frequently on social medias.
Title: Episode 212: History of the Dozerfleet Part 2
Post by: sea hag on May 03, 2023, 12:10:08 am
Yeah he went from someone with confusing ideas for entertainment franchises to Facebook dad. Would that Trapezoid Kids became the cultural juggernaut it was meant to be. How different our world would look...