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Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 12, 2014, 12:57:25 am
with Portaxx, Jack Chick, Isfahan, Acierocolotl, Kumquatxop, and Lemon.
Content for this episode was compiled by Lady Frenzy
Edited by Portaxx.
Hey, did you ever have a good friend, and your friend was a really good dresser, and you thought "I'm gonna steal her entire outfit and wear it myself and pretend to be her and go to social gatherings specifically for other people who do this sort of thing?" Of course not, that would be creepy. But what if it's not a friend, but a cartoon character? Still creepy? We'll find out as we read Cosplay.com. This week, we're selling our eggs.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: chai tea latte on February 12, 2014, 03:18:17 am
Man, you guys are on your A-game lately. This was hilarious.
Also, of course there's Bill Cosplay (http://i.imgur.com/DxbFBBx.jpg) out there.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on February 12, 2014, 08:42:57 am
When you cosplay the cosgame of costhrones...
Also, after a quick glance at the doc (can't listen until I'm home from work), I'm getting flashbacks to discovering that a douchebag I knew won Best in Show at a local con for a costume with what was essentially blackface makeup. Nerds are awful.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lady Naga on February 12, 2014, 10:21:45 am
It doesn't seem to be on Soundcloud any more?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 12, 2014, 10:28:05 am
It does not. Because FUUUUUUUUUUCK soundcloud.
Oh, thefpl.us was still linking to Soundcloud. Fixed.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on February 12, 2014, 11:54:50 am
I just got this downloaded a second time, seems to be identical files. Anyone else, or is my podcast app acting up?
On topic, these people really annoy me. I bet they look at some suit of skyrim armour someone made or something and then equate the hours of effort that went into that wih their t shirt that looks kind of like their favourite whiny anime teen. Why shouldn't they be specially because they do so much fantastic art dyeing their hair?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 12, 2014, 12:28:26 pm
Anyone else, or is my podcast app acting up?
See above post RE:SoundCloud (Shittiness Thereof)
Briefly, here's what happened: Signed up for a year's worth of SoundCloud Pro. Got in fistfights with the SoundCloudUI. Spent literally 3 hours trying to tag a dozen previous episodes. Uploaded the Cosplay episode and, in an effort to see if they'll actually work as a podcast host, I set the RSS to grab the episode from Soundcloud, which only works in some podcatchers (specifically it doesn't work in iTunes). Cancelled my Pro account and changed the RSS to link to same location of the other episodes.
Sounds like you're using a podcast that recognized the SoundCloud redirect, so it downloaded it from there and then downloaded it again once the location moved to the F+ server.
Out of curiosity, what podcast app are you using?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: advancedclass on February 12, 2014, 02:18:34 pm
I was skeptical at the sight of this week's topic, because it seemed like it would be one of the more image heavy topics. How wrong I was - it's like the tumblr episode and the tvtropes episode had a hideously wonderful baby. And that baby is a Christian fundamentalist. That was not something I would have expected and it made the episode all the more magical.
Good work, guys!
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Ansemaru on February 12, 2014, 02:57:51 pm
The hilarity of this episode is compounded for me because I am actually fucking listening to it while working on a cosplay project with friends. I appreciate it all the much more because dear god, I know these kinds of people and threads way too intimately for my own sanity's sake.
Also, god fucking dammit, I hate that I know that the version of Guren no Yumiya that you used for the intro is an edited version of the shortened TV version rather than the full-length song, made by fans back before the single was actually available for purchase/illegal download. I really, really hate that I know that.
(This is Ansemaru, digging his own grave by proving he's the kind of person you'd probably feature on an episode of the F+.)
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2014, 03:38:17 pm
I don't think there's anything wrong with cosplay per se. I mean, it's nerdy but it's not like we're in a position to throw stones. Like Lemon said, it's conceivable that there are people who cosplay and then stop cosplaying and go to work or whatever, these people just aren't them.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Ansemaru on February 12, 2014, 03:58:26 pm
Yeah, the potential secondhand embarrassment element is pretty much nil because, well, these aren't the kind of cosplayers I personally associate with. These are high schoolers and young adults with very little self-awareness or sense of shame and very, very little understanding of things like money and life priorities, not people who work at actual jobs and dress up as fictional characters for conventions as a fun hobby.
These aren't the people who were deeply mortified to let anybody know why they were buying several yards of fabric from a craft store and working in secret on costumes so they wouldn't get mocked by their parents- these are the kinds of idiots who relish in getting disparaging comments from family members so they can employ "witty" comebacks because their lives are so devoid of actual conflict and struggle and because they do not experience shame correctly. You kind of have to lack a degree of shame in the first place to make and wear a fictional character's outfit (or, you know, a fursuit, or a steampunk outfit, a gothic lolita ensemble, so on and so forth), but there's a line between actively trying to make normal people uncomfortable and confused outside of a convention setting and just not taking obvious attempts to provoke or insult you when you're, say, in a hotel or en route to a convention center. One is confidence, one is being a tactless weirdo.
I feel like a lot of these stories about getting mocked or insulted for cosplay are sort of a "me too" situation in response to actual stories of people getting unreasonably treated like shit in cosplay. There are loads of cases of talented, completely reasonable people getting harassed by non-cosplayers at conventions, and everyone tends to be rightfully offended at strangers coming in and acting like the cosplayers are objects or that their costumes aren't things crafted with a lot of time, effort, and money. And the victims in these situations tend to get a lot of sympathy from the assorted nerd community, which is, once again, completely reasonable. But idiot teenies look at this and go "Wow, when my teacher gave me a funny look for wearing a Naruto headband in chemistry class, I felt just like that cosplayer who got treated like shit! I'm gonna tell people about it and they're going to make me feel better about my life choices!" And so every stupid microaggression and every situation that could have been avoided with even an ounce of common sense or self-awareness, every piece of bemused commentary or mockery from someone who has absolutely no frame of reference for cosplaying as a hobby or an art form gets turned into a narrative of "oh my god I can't believe those uncultured swine didn't recognize my AU fanfiction genderbend Hetalia costume" or "I totally owned those jerks who were looking at me funny for dressing up like a giant cat!", regardless of how innocuous the original situation was. When you're a maladjusted teenager, feeling superior for something about you that's just kind of weird can feel very, very gratifying, and making yourself out to be a victim or an oppressed minority who's ultimately way smarter, cooler, and secretly better than your ignorant enemies is a really quick and easy way to do that.
So yeah, these aren't all cosplayers, and they sure aren't the cosplayers I'm friends with, but I know pretty well where they're coming from. It's what makes them equal parts embarrassing and hilarious to hear about.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2014, 04:44:43 pm
I would also like to note that on Monday, at school, I saw a girl wearing a purple maid and bunny ears. I have no idea what the hell that was about.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Ansemaru on February 12, 2014, 04:50:52 pm
Probably just a garden-variety weeaboo. Animal ears and generic maid costumes are a pretty common Original Character Do Not Steal/I Want To Look Anime But Can't Make An Actual Character's Costume outfit in both convention and anime club scenarios.
Or a weird sex thing. Could always be a weird sex thing.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2014, 04:58:36 pm
I know we've got a Japanese club around here, the posters for which are about what you'd expect. Might be connected to that, but I sure as hell wasn't about to ask. Personally I roll with Philosophy Club. Those weeaboo nerds better stay off our fuckin' turf, least we deliver a stern rebuttal to Schopenhauer's belief in the fundamental oneness of existence with our fists.
It's funny because we're a bunch of philosophy nerds, we can barely schedule a meeting much less kick anyone's ass.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: KingKalamari on February 12, 2014, 05:30:25 pm
I was skeptical at the sight of this week's topic, because it seemed like it would be one of the more image heavy topics. How wrong I was - it's like the tumblr episode and the tvtropes episode had a hideously wonderful baby. And that baby is a Christian fundamentalist. That was not something I would have expected and it made the episode all the more magical.
Oh I knew there'd be some gold here: While cosplay in itself is a pretty innocuous activity there are, like anything, a ton of crazy people who participate in it and make things weird for the normals.
I ever tell you guys about how Homestuck fans' idiocy made the Toronto Comic Arts Festival put a ban on cosplaying?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: chai tea latte on February 12, 2014, 05:38:27 pm
I ever tell you guys about how Homestuck fans' idiocy made the Toronto Comic Arts Festival put a ban on cosplaying? KingKalamari, February 12, 2014, 05:30:25 pm
No, but please do! Homestucks can be pretty terrible.
VVV I read it, I just try to avoid the fandom.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Ansemaru on February 12, 2014, 05:39:23 pm
I know that story from my years on the front lines of reading Homestuck, but you should still share it with the class, KingKalamari. It's beautiful.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 12, 2014, 05:50:33 pm
Was that related to bucket-spitting or someone bathing in alcohol with gray paint mixed in to try to dye their skin grey? Or is it some other ridiculously dumb fan stuff?
I get being a big fan of things and how you're willing to do things that make other people feel a bit weird. Part of being a fan is putting a higher importance on something that doesn't really warrant it. Why do I care that I have a developer diary signed by all the staff at Larian Studios? Why do I have Elder Scrolls maps framed in my room? Neither of those things are important at all, and they're weird to other people, but they're expressions of stuff I really enjoy, so I'm fine with doing something people without a specific interest in something dorky would think is weird.
Like Ansemaru said, there's a difference between between being unashamed to like a dorky thing, and actively trying to make people think you're weird, and that difference boils down to needing validation. If you're weird and you're just weird to yourself and you acknowledge that and you're fine with it, that's far more sane and rational than trying to be weird, but wanting everyone else to know that you're weird so that you feel like you're properly weird and justifiably ostracized or whatever validation you're looking for.
I say this as someone who did, for about two years back in high school, actively try to be weird. I don't really know why, probably for attention, or because I was bored, or because I was uncomfortable in a new school where I didn't know anyone and the social groups had already crystallized long before I came along. But I remember thinking to myself 'I want people to think I'm weird', and I acted like that my freshman and sophomore year.
I didn't have any friends freshman and sophomore year.
I don't know what it was that made me cut that out, either. Maybe growing up, maybe getting lonely, maybe finally making some friends that I felt more comfortable around. But it turns out, actively trying to be weird makes you a terrible person to be around and no one likes it.
What I'm getting at is, okay, if you want to do a dorky thing, that's fine. Conventions are honestly a great place to do dorky things. But don't try to make it a status thing or a validation thing where you try to baffle the normies who are just too plebian to understand why you're all spitting on a barber pole or why you're dressed up as a salt shaker with tiger ears. You can just be into Barberstuck or Tora no Shiro wo Chōmiryō Shukugakai and be happy with that.
tl;dr: one time I went to a convention and someone complimented me on my cosplay but I wasn't wearing a costume :(
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Ansemaru on February 12, 2014, 05:56:06 pm
The worst part about "Barberstuck" is that is exactly in line with terrible, inane, inexplicably popular Homestuck AUs/fandom trends and how they tend to be named. There's about as much material buried in Tumblr for that as there is on the Terrible MLP Stuff general thread right now.
In fact, I kind of suspect that if I searched the tumblr tag for "Barberstuck" I'd actually fucking find something.*
*http://www.tumblr.com/search/barberstuck (http://www.tumblr.com/search/barberstuck)** **There are two things on the tag. That's two things too many.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2014, 06:05:04 pm
It kind of reminds me of those nerds who are really, really invested in the idea that video games are art. It's not just that they think video games are art, that isn't a bad opinion, I'm talking the kind of guys who cursed Roger Ebert when he died because he said that he thought video games weren't are. Those kinds of nerds. Are they interested in the subject because they have strongly held and well formed opinions on what art is or how an interactive medium makes players an active part of creating the art that they are viewing? No, they just want society to validate their terrible life choices. They want people to validate that the fifty hours they spend playing WoW each week are every bit as enriching and respectable as if they spent that time reading Chaucer or admiring Monets at the local museum.
The problem is that those things aren't comparable. Even if video games can be art, most of them aren't. And they don't need to be. It's okay to have a nerdy hobby that is kind of odd and that most people won't understand. That's fine. The problem is when you get really weirdly defensive about it. Because if you identify so strongly with your nerdy hobby that you view any criticism of that hobby or the way you indulge in it as a personal attack then you will reflexively reject any criticism of it, even if that criticism is well founded and constructive and before you know it you're selling your eggs for fabric because you are no longer willing to listen to your friends and family when they tell you that that is insane.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: KingKalamari on February 12, 2014, 06:21:06 pm
Was that related to bucket-spitting or someone bathing in alcohol with gray paint mixed in to try to dye their skin grey? Or is it some other ridiculously dumb fan stuff? EYE OF ZA, February 12, 2014, 05:50:33 pm
It is, thankfully, less terrible than that. Though the bucket spitting video was reportedly shot during a convention somewhere in Canada.
So, Toronto, as the biggest city in Canada, is home to a number of conventions of varying levels of geekery. One of them is the Toronto Comic Arts Festival (Or TCAF) (http://torontocomics.com/). Now unlike a lot of comics conventions TCAF isn't really about selling comics/merchandise so much as it's more a celebration of the comics medium with a particular focus on independently published and small press stuff. Headlining guests from past years have included people like Dan Clowes, Art Spiegelman and Los Bros Hernandez: People who are sort of known for doing alternative comics outside your usual action or superhero titles.
It's traditionally held at the Toronto Reference Library during normal business hours and has a lot of panels about things like the business end of self publishing, workshops for educators and stuff like that mixed in with the usual book signings and creator panels. If you're familiar with the Small Press Expo it's sort of along the same lines.
Now, another big part of TCAF is the webcomics crowd: With its focus on Small Press stuff it's kind of the perfect venue for moderately successful webcomic artists to exhibit their work and connect with fans. Now, back in 2010-11, right when Homestuck was getting to be A Thing, Andrew Hussie was announced as one of the exhibitors that year. NOw, come the weekend of the festival it was very easy to spot the Homestuck fans because they were pretty much the only ones who were dressed up*
Now keep in mind this was happening in the middle of a library while said library was still open and you can get an idea as to how weird and out of place this entire spectacle was. TCAF had never really had a policy on cosplay or anything prior to this because, well, no one had really been out of touch enough to think TCAF was an appropriate venue for it.
So fast forward to next year and the TCAF website has added another item to its FAQ page:
So can I still do convention-type stuff at it? Like cosplay, skits, walking around ‘in-character’, etc.? We recommend against it.
Conventions are held in dedicated spaces, and these become ‘safe’ spaces for attendees to express themselves creatively. TCAF takes place in a public building, and TCAF exhibitors and attendees mix with members of the general public and library customers and that’s what makes it special, but it also makes for a very different vibe than a convention, and one that might not welcome your particular brand of creativity.
We put it like this: You probably wouldn’t wear your Captain America or Karakat Vantas costume to the library on the weekend before TCAF, so you probably shouldn’t wear your costume to the library on the weekend of TCAF. All of us that run the show support personal creative expression through costuming and performance, but TCAF just isn’t an appropriate venue for that.
We have the utmost respect for all of our attending publishers, authors, and their fans, and we want everyone to enjoy themselves. We’re not singling any one or any fandom out. This is about TCAF and the way we do things, and we decided from the get go that this was going to be a literary festival and not a con, and that means that some attendees are going to need to find a more appropriate venue for their cosplay, their performances, and/or their meetups.
Emphasis mine.
Andrew Hussie actually had to specifically discourage people from dressing up at the festival that year on his site...And we still had a bunch of weirdos running around the convention in grey pancake makeup.
My favorite thing to come out of this debacle was the whining in this thread:
Awwww, Liza... :( You were one of the people I was looking forward to meeting most, too!
I am actually not sure how I feel about TCAF's Official Stance on cosplaying. I will be abiding by that rule(? guideline? caution?), to be sure, since I would like to act in accordance with their requests, whatever I think of them.
However - it does not seem particularly well reasoned to me.
Their and others' arguments seem to be able to be summed up as follows - a) TCAF "isn't the place to cosplay"; b) "it takes place in a library"; c) "it's a comics festival, not an anime convention"; d) "it would disturb the public".
a) Why is cosplaying there necessarily such a bad thing? This has never been explained in any of the discussions that I have seen or been part of concerning the issue. Most Homestuck costumes are not much more than a tee shirt and basic bottom (shorts, skirt, jeans, etc.). I will likely have black hair by the time TCAF rolls around, I sometimes wear glasses, and am bucktoothed; if I wore a Green Slime Ghost tee shirt there, I could easily be mistaken for a John cosplayer. If they were worried about troll make-up getting on artists' wares, or props getting in festival-goers' way - which are both more than understandable concerns, certainly - they could forbid those things rather than frowning upon cosplaying in itself.
When I bring this up, I tend to receive a reply along the lines of that "there were Homestuck cosplayers misbehaving last year".
But again - why conflate cosplaying and "misbehaviour", or assume that anybody who cosplays there will definitely cause a scene? If someone is prone to acting ridiculous at events like these, they are going to do so whether or not they are wearing candy corn coloured horns and a zodiac symbol shirt. This is not to mention that I was right there most of the time last TCAF, and absolutely nothing happened besides maybe two or three slightly embarrassing incidents that I am sure Mr. Hussie, other exhibitors, and other festival-goers were able to brush off... and I may be wrong, but I do not recall the cosplayers there having been the ones orchestrating said embarrassing stunts, or at least not having been the principal perpetrators.
I am not desperate to cosplay, and I would honestly be a little worried about someone if they felt that they NEEDED to cosplay there. Like I said, I will be showing up in casual clothing after all. But there are some great things to be said in favour of cosplaying to events like TCAF: It's fun. It's a fun, if silly, way to show fan appreciation, and I'm sure that most artists are happy and flattered to see people dressed as their characters. It's convenient shorthand for MSPA fans to quickly identify other fans. It adds a little colour, metaphorical and literal, to the proceedings. It causes absolutely no harm in and of itself.
b) Lots of conventions, cosplay meet-ups, and the like take place in libraries (and are very crowded, and yes, sometimes Normal People come through it or even have unrelated events at the same time, and so forth).
c) I don't believe I've been successful in identifying a precise semantic difference between a "festival" versus a "convention", but more to the point, I don't think anyone is trying to insist that TCAF is an anime convention, as an attempt to justify cosplay or for any other reason.
d) This is the biggest sticking point to me. I find that this argument - which is not something that I think TCAF is necessarily saying, but that I have seen time and time again from other fans - carries something of an aroma of paranoid nerd-terror at the thought of ostracism from a vicious, judgmental Public whose members will panic and clutch their pearls and shout abuse at the sight of something or someone that is slightly (more) out of the ordinary. It seems to assume either great stupidity, great delicacy of constitution, great preoccupation with the affairs of random strangers, or two or all of those things on the part of the Normal Folks - that a student (for instance) will be getting on just fine alongside the sea of black tee shirts and comic books and other quite obviously nerdy things at a quite obviously nerdy event, and then suddenly, holy shit, there's a person with a black wig and a knock-off Slimer on his shirt, and their psyche and sense of personal safety shatter like an egg at the hands of a dame who is stoked as BALLS to get them off that horse before their metaphorical kitchen gets massacred.
...Or perhaps it isn't quite that so much as the fear that cosplayers will make comic nerds "look bad" somehow, which... ...which... I'm not even sure how to approach that, honestly, if only because I can't quite decide what to say first.
EDIT: I should clarify that I do not think that it wouldn't be disrespectful to cosplay at TCAF. It would be - but because they are now "officially" asking people not to, and those are their wishes, however I feel about them. Cosplaying there anyway WOULD be blatantly disregarding those wishes. I completely acknowledge that it's a small concession to make and that there are other ways to make oneself known to other MSPA fans. I'm really just saying that I think it's a little silly.
*-There were only two exceptions I saw to this: A woman dressed as Marceline and an 8 year old girl dressed up as Finn from Adventure Time (Pendleton Ward was also a guest that year)
Oh, and if you're in Toronto for the weekend of May 10-11, are into comics and do not have a burning need to wear a silly costume wherever you go I'd totally recommend going to TCAF: It's free to attend and has some awesome guests lined up this year.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2014, 06:25:35 pm
Yeah, but there's a good chance an eight year old would dress up as Finn from Adventure Time on a normal day so she's okay. Also that sounds adorable. And the TCAF sounds pretty cool
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 12, 2014, 06:37:27 pm
That quote from the girl who wanted to cosplay is pretty aggravating. She seems to miss the idea that this is taking place in an open library, and the idea that some people might not find it 'fun' to see people dressed up like that. It's kinda weird to see people dressed up, especially if we're talking about something taking place in a fully public venue.
Plus, I completely disagree with her on the idea that someone cosplaying isn't going to be any more disruptive than someone not doing it. For certain things, I could see her point (like if you've got a very delicate costume on), but the fact is, when people dress up, they feel like they aren't themselves, and they act out more because they've got this layer between their actual selves and what they're doing. Cosplayers are exactly the people who are going to be more rowdy.
Also if I'm still in the northeast come May I'd totally like to go, it sounds like a cool place without people dressing up like gray assholes.
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Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2014, 07:03:48 pm
a) Why is cosplaying there necessarily such a bad thing?
Because it's a public library and you'll be around people who aren't there to be amused by your attention-seeking catchphrases and in-jokes. It's like going into a yoga class and then breakdancing. If I tried to start a pickup hockey game in a roller rink I don't get to ask "Why is playing hockey there necessarily such a bad thing" just because it's the sort of environment in which hockey could be played.
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Post by: JT on February 13, 2014, 05:10:02 am
I think the question of whether or not wearing a costume is inherently disruptive is irrelevant, anyway. The spirit of the rule is obvious: It's not a con, and they don't want Homestucks or other weirdos harshing the vibe. It's that simple. All this person is doing is being whiny and pedantic.
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Post by: A Meat on February 13, 2014, 07:27:10 am
I live in a country that has pretty much one nerd convention a year and that's it, so when it's time for it, you get all the types of nerds in one go. So I'm acutally curious about how actual subject-specific cons look since what I have is a strange mishmash of everything, I remember there being LARP, MtG tournaments, drawing workshops, lectures about all sorts of things, people selling merch and used books, screenings of movies and some panels about stuff. Barely any anime though.
Have an embarassing note about me!: This year I went to that aforementioned con, and I complimented a group of teenagers on their group cosplay thing (they were the whole cast of Dangan Ronpa 1), and awkwardly confronted them about the fact that some of them were in costumes that were spoilers, and that it's kind of unfair to people who haven't played the game (or read the Something Awful Let's Play of it), since it hasn't come out in English yet. They replied that it's their right to do so and having spoilers is the whole point. My poor friends had no idea what any of this shit was and called me out about being awkward afterwards.
I did see some really great costumes and I really admire people who have the skill and can set apart time to make these things and wear them without shame.
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Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 13, 2014, 08:03:22 am
I don't know a lot about Diamond Rhombus but I know it makes Tumblr mad when the SA paywall goes up and one time someone dressed up as Lowtax (or Slowbeef?) and posed with shades and a whole bunch of ten dollar bills and that was pretty funny.
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Post by: Ansemaru on February 13, 2014, 09:37:51 am
It's a neat murder mystery game in the vein of Phoenix Wright and Battle Royale, of all things. It was actually just released in English on the PS Vita like... this past week.* If for some reason you have a Vita and like murder mystery/courtroom drama games, check it out. If not, there's an excellent Let's Play on SA.
*(The reason for this is almost entirely due to the fan-translated LP on Something Awful, which got insanely popular across the assorted internets. Including with the Tumblr crowd, who A) don't understand how SA works and B) have a remarkable tendency to be complete idiots about the game itself. They have done nothing but make it harder to like the game.)
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: A Meat on February 13, 2014, 11:22:34 am
Yeah, Dangit Ron Paul is a fun murder mystery game that has a phenomenal Let's Play on Something Awful, it also caused some amusing drama on the LP sub-forum whenever the paywall went up and people couldn't read DR and bitched about it on tumblr instead of paying the 10$ to register a SA account. Some did register an SA account, but didn't actually read the rules before posting in the LP thread, which got them banned quickly enough.
But back to the topic of cosplay:
One of many videos best described as "a bunch of people in cosplay dancing in the woods to the sound of J-pop/Touhou remixes" edit: sometimes they aren't in the woods but in a field or something
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Post by: Bobalay on February 13, 2014, 12:43:43 pm
A bunch of Tumblrites also shared account passwords so they didn't have to pay. It would've been a bigger problem but a lot of them were dumb enough to post the account names and passwords on their public accounts to share.
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Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on February 13, 2014, 04:47:18 pm
I can't figure out what these egg-selling cosplayers actually need that money for. Cotton and muslin can be dyed very easily and are very cheap, the remnant bin is your friend, and patterns can be had for pennies on eBay.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Isfahan on February 13, 2014, 05:11:39 pm
Sounds like somebody isn't OCD about doing it right.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: KingKalamari on February 13, 2014, 05:12:49 pm
I can't figure out what these egg-selling cosplayers actually need that money for. Cotton and muslin can be dyed very easily and are very cheap, the remnant bin is your friend, and patterns can be had for pennies on eBay. Cuddlesquid, February 13, 2014, 04:47:18 pm
My guess is they're paying for either expensive replica props or need it for costumes that require something like metalwork or plastic parts.
The replica props can get real expensive: A friend of mine paid several hundred dollars for a replica Power Rangers helmet that he wears to conventions.
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Post by: Lady Frenzy on February 13, 2014, 05:23:47 pm
I'm still flabbergasted by the Sexy Princess Peach cosplay indiegogo (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sexy-princess-peach-cosplay--13).
The result, for those interested (http://lizkatz.com/sexy-princess-peach-cosplay/).
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 13, 2014, 07:12:49 pm
Those two skype conversations she gave had to be like, ridiculous awkward.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 13, 2014, 08:02:20 pm
Oooh, I can buy Liz Katz Merchandise (http://lizkatzstore.com/).
Unfortunately, they're sold out of "Store will reopen in March 2014!"
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: 🍆 on February 14, 2014, 01:52:19 am
Yeah, Dangit Ron Paul is a fun murder mystery game that has a phenomenal Let's Play on Something Awful, it also caused some amusing drama on the LP sub-forum whenever the paywall went up and people couldn't read DR and bitched about it on tumblr instead of paying the 10$ to register a SA account. Some did register an SA account, but didn't actually read the rules before posting in the LP thread, which got them banned quickly enough. A Meat, February 13, 2014, 11:22:34 am
It may be 2014 and we are fully immersed in Web 2.whatever bullshit, but Something Awful is still causing drama. That's heartwarming in a way. Like it's the Internet's constant.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Yossarian on February 14, 2014, 12:55:15 pm
Just yesterday this popped up on my weekly glance at facebook.
Well, due to some unforeseen circumstances, I am now the president of Cosplay club.
The pictures are ... unfortunate.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 14, 2014, 01:34:45 pm
Well, due to some unforeseen circumstances, I am now the president of Cosplay club.
GIS for "army cosplay" didn't turn up interesting results, so I changed my query to "army of two cosplay". First result. Lemon, February 14, 2014, 03:44:19 pm
(http://files.myopera.com/JanetB/albums/6193931/green-army-men-cosplay-costume.jpg) Isfahan, February 14, 2014, 05:32:57 pm
Okay that's the kind of costume I can get behind
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Odd on February 15, 2014, 08:16:48 pm
This is the kind of topic that is problematic for me because I have too many pictures off horrible cosplay things to share. Its like locking Robin Williams in a room full of coke and telling him that the only way out is a escape hatch hidden under the blow.
"AVSkull" reminded me of something. "AV" is the shorthand for Japanese Adult Video, the name for porn in Japan. But Odd, you ask, what would that have to do with the topic of cosplaying?
Well, I respond while removing my pants, much like how porn parodies of movies are a thing, cosplay porn of anime is totally a thing in Japan. There's a single prolific porn actor/director who has made like two hundred cosplay porn movies, earning himself the meme of "He is Goro. He has fucked you're waifu":
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34r9fh2.png) I edited out one of the pictures because I'm 90% sure it was put there by mistake and it was just some girl cosplaying in front of a webcam. I wouldn't like to help circulate an image that has her appear alongside porn actresses. I wouldn't do that to a real human being. In Japan you can also, of course, buy costumes of popular characters in any well stocked porn store. Being a prostitute in Japan must carry out its own set of complications. In most of the world they have to worry about being strangled by their Johns but in Japan they have to worry about having to wear incredibly elaborate and complicated costumes (And strangling).
There's of course the well known American softcore glamour site "Cosplay Deviants" that has models dress up and dress down as Anime and comic chara- What the fuck? (http://i59.tinypic.com/nl60jk.png) NSFW Link http://nsfwgamer.com/anna-cherry-as-the-doctor-for-cosplay-deviants/ (http://nsfwgamer.com/anna-cherry-as-the-doctor-for-cosplay-deviants/)
Then you have the "professional" cosplayers who don't actually take off their costumes but have semi-professional photoshoots for reasons I can't unravel. http://www.acparadise.com/acs/display.php?c=11411 (http://www.acparadise.com/acs/display.php?c=11411)
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lady Frenzy on February 15, 2014, 09:01:03 pm
Then you have the "professional" cosplayers who don't actually take off their costumes but have semi-professional photoshoots for reasons I can't unravel. http://www.acparadise.com/acs/display.php?c=11411 (http://www.acparadise.com/acs/display.php?c=11411) Odd, February 15, 2014, 08:16:48 pm
Please tell me she's cosplayed the blonde woman from Galaxy Express 999.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Odd on February 15, 2014, 09:15:16 pm
I can't tell you that but I used my powers of research to find she goes by the name Tatto. http://www.acparadise.com/acp/display.php?a=48106&t=costumes (http://www.acparadise.com/acp/display.php?a=48106&t=costumes)
And I don't see any Galaxy Express 999 cosplay but she has cosplayed as Arsene Lupin The Third: http://www.acparadise.com/acp/display.php?p=255898 (http://www.acparadise.com/acp/display.php?p=255898)
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: A Meat on February 16, 2014, 01:44:36 pm
Well, I respond while removing my pants, much like how porn parodies of movies are a thing, cosplay porn of anime is totally a thing in Japan. There's a single prolific porn actor/director who has made like two hundred cosplay porn movies, earning himself the meme of "He is Goro. He has fucked you're waifu": (http://i57.tinypic.com/34r9fh2.png) Odd, February 15, 2014, 08:16:48 pm
Why is porn involving women cosplaying as anime children a thing? More importantly, why have I seen pictures of porn involving women dressed as anime children that aren't of a character in that table? Also, if you want to go further, there is porn of women cosplaying as children from Japanese video games that isn't in that table.
Why do I know this? I tried to make a doc about Japanophile perverts on the internet, and after I came across that, I sort of gave up on finding things that were actually funny and not gross or depressing. One day I'll actually finish that doc and submit it, but not today.
Also, Lemon, just a heads up, this episode is in the RSS feed twice.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 16, 2014, 02:19:30 pm
Also, Lemon, just a heads up, this episode is in the RSS feed twice.
Fixed.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on February 17, 2014, 07:42:35 pm
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Down10 on February 18, 2014, 10:59:27 pm
Isfahan, this is something you've done before, but now that you've done it again in this podcast, I'm quite certain you are not pronouncing caret (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caret) (the '^' symbol) correctly. It is supposed to rhyme with "carrot," and not "beret."
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: chai tea latte on February 18, 2014, 11:33:31 pm
Isfahan, this is something you've done before, but now that you've done it again in this podcast, I'm quite certain you are not pronouncing caret (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caret) (the '^' symbol) correctly. It is supposed to rhyme with "carrot," and not "beret." Down10, February 18, 2014, 10:59:27 pm
I learned a thing today! I've always just used the French name for it, since we never actually formally learned English grammar in school.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: montrith on February 19, 2014, 01:11:37 am
Isfahan, this is something you've done before, but now that you've done it again in this podcast, I'm quite certain you are not pronouncing caret (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caret) (the '^' symbol) correctly. It is supposed to rhyme with "carrot," and not "beret." Down10, February 18, 2014, 10:59:27 pm
"Upward pointy thing" still okay?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: A Meat on February 19, 2014, 01:18:52 am
Obviously a caret is just an upside down háček.
edit: whoa, that 'č' broke the standard font
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Tiny Prancer on February 19, 2014, 06:16:54 am
I gotta say, having been a weeaboo as a teenager and having gone to multiple conventions and having friends who did/still do cosplay, I liked this episode a lot. I had a lot of "oh god no" memories of my own past stupidity (I will swear up and down I was not THAT bad, I was mainly that kind of person who whined about subs vs dubs on the internet and wore cat ears at a convention) and having known people like this as well definitely gave me a "yeah, I've been there, I've seen that shit" feeling. I think I have a particularly strong sense of schadenfreude over this kind of shit because it's stuff I used to be so specifically familiar with.
Also, the one girl whining about going to art school in cosplay/how she plans to cosplay 24/7 when she's in college reminds me a LOT of a particular dude at my campus who I always saw wearing a hat based on a fruits basket character (this one, specifically (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sMkqs42qL._SY445_.jpg)). I haven't seen him around in a while and I'm not sure if he graduated or he finally took that hat off and now I can't recognize him. (for the record this was in the past year or so, and the show dropped out of popularity around 5+ years ago. Dude had some serious dedication to that series, I guess.)
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 19, 2014, 07:27:31 am
Isfahan, this is something you've done before, but now that you've done it again in this podcast, I'm quite certain you are not pronouncing caret (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caret) (the '^' symbol) correctly. It is supposed to rhyme with "carrot," and not "beret." Down10, February 18, 2014, 10:59:27 pm
MAUDIT ACCENT CIRCUMFLEX, MANGE-DONC LES CULS DE TROIS CHIENNES. J'ESPÈRE QUE T'ES CONTENT FINALEMENT, ESTIE D'CRISSE.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lady Frenzy on May 09, 2014, 11:53:56 am
This has been making its rounds on tumblr: teenager goes to school in cosplay, gets beaten up. It's gotten nearly 30 thousand reblogs and many people are doubting the authenticity of the story.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Mister Smalls on May 09, 2014, 12:01:42 pm
Why is she Facebook friends with the people who beat her up?
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: count_actuala on May 09, 2014, 12:36:04 pm
If that's factual, I feel really bad for that kid because that's got to be a harsh wake up call to receive in high school.
If it's fake, I feel really bad for that kid because there's some big problems rattling around in his braincase if he's still doing this shit in high school.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Tiny Prancer on May 09, 2014, 12:43:00 pm
I'm hella suspicious of this because it sounds like a lot of stuff I've seen floating around on tumblr ala "U GAIZ I WAS AT A CON AND SOMEONE IN A BAD COSPLAY ATTACKED ME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE X/Y/Z ABOUT MY COSTUME AND ALSO THEY HAD DATE RAPE DRUGS"
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: crow on May 09, 2014, 12:47:59 pm
Why is she Facebook friends with the people who beat her up? Mister Smalls, May 09, 2014, 12:01:42 pm
She's in high school.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Mister Smalls on May 09, 2014, 01:06:53 pm
Why is she Facebook friends with the people who beat her up? Mister Smalls, May 09, 2014, 12:01:42 pm
Because the English language needs a female equivalent of "manchild"
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Mister Smalls on May 09, 2014, 02:52:41 pm
Is this person even female? Their FAQ says this:
You say your name is Erik on here but the facebook comments use feminine pronouns? That’s because I am a transman
Which is a little bit confusing but whatever, it's not the most stupid thing about this.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on May 09, 2014, 03:39:58 pm
Is this person even female? Their FAQ says this:
You say your name is Erik on here but the facebook comments use feminine pronouns? That’s because I am a transman
Which is a little bit confusing but whatever, it's not the most stupid thing about this. Mister Smalls, May 09, 2014, 02:52:41 pm
Man really? Okay. Usually when I see "I made a huge Tumblr post about my cosplay drama" I think "I'M A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL!!" Go figure.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Mister Smalls on May 09, 2014, 04:57:59 pm
Yeah I'm pretty sure that this person is transitioning from a woman to a man (which I know is not the most accurate way to put it, but I don't want to make a massive text-dump about this issue here) and retains female pronouns on Facebook so that people don't give them shit about it.
Given that this is Tumblr, they could be lying about that too, but I'm going to assume they aren't until proven otherwise. This cosplay story, on the other hand, is a mite fishy.
Title: Episode 127: Cosplay To Win The Cosgame
Post by: Lemon on February 15, 2022, 10:40:10 am
I was just listening to the story about the Cosplay Dude who lifts 70 pund bags of concrete. He has an incredibly long conversation with a group of men who menace him for no reason at all. They talk about how much they love to fight, and they never get to it, and there's way too many people involved, including people who aren't mentioned in the beginning of the story but show up halfway through.
What I'm saying is: This would be an excellent Side Quest in Yakuza: Like A Dragon.