Title: Episode 214: https://thefpl.us/episode/214
Post by: A Meat on June 03, 2016, 01:22:28 pm
John humming the Khachaturian's Saber Dance as the idea of Pro Masturbation existing is amazing. It's such a good dick joke
Title: Episode 214: https://thefpl.us/episode/214
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on June 03, 2016, 01:45:26 pm
I came across that healthy strokes website as well while making the doc, I posted about it here: http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=793.msg58917#msg58917 (http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=793.msg58917#msg58917) It's pretty fucking crazy.
Title: Episode 214: Jerks Off Of Jerking Off
Post by: Ambious on June 03, 2016, 03:19:37 pm
As was suggested in the episode, there's a surprising amount of overlap between the NoFap community and the Alpha Men / RedPill communities. I can't really explain it.
Edit: found my previous post on the matter:
On a related note that's probably TMI, the MRA idiot in my class (one of them at least) once said something about how masterbating was damaging psychologically because it makes you think you don't need to get laid, and I was so fucking pissed by that that that same evening I masterbated just to defy him. Ambious, December 21, 2015, 05:47:34 am
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Post by: Sherman Tank on June 03, 2016, 04:11:52 pm
Jesus Christ, all these people saw that Seinfeld episode where George stopped having sex and became a genius and decided to base their lives on it.
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Post by: Ambious on June 03, 2016, 04:14:39 pm
Jesus Christ, all these people saw that Seinfeld episode where George stopped having sex and became a genius and decided to base their lives on it. Sherman Tank Under Glass, June 03, 2016, 04:11:52 pm
I think you've got your Seinfeld episodes confused there, buddy. Either that, or [trap] sprung.
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Post by: Sherman Tank on June 03, 2016, 04:42:17 pm
The part I don't understand about this whole NoFap thing (besides all of it) is that apparently sex is OK but masturbation isn't? What?
Title: Episode 214: Jerks Off Of Jerking Off
Post by: Adam Bozarth on June 03, 2016, 05:23:52 pm
The part I don't understand about this whole NoFap thing (besides all of it) is that apparently sex is OK but masturbation isn't? What? ZapthisShermanTankCrap, June 03, 2016, 04:42:17 pm
To have sex you need to leave the house and talk to a person.
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Post by: Achilles' Heelies on June 03, 2016, 05:26:09 pm
The part I don't understand about this whole NoFap thing (besides all of it) is that apparently sex is OK but masturbation isn't? What? ZapthisShermanTankCrap, June 03, 2016, 04:42:17 pm
Yeah, and these guys have been masturbating to the exclusion of all else.
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Post by: KingKalamari on June 03, 2016, 05:27:09 pm
I mean on the one hand it's nice to see these people developing the self awareness to realize that they're socially inept morons who have no love lives but on the other hand they've grossly misidentified the source of their problems...
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Post by: EYE OF ZA on June 03, 2016, 06:34:12 pm
How many of these jerks of jerking off have been fucked off by the fuckoff of an oft-fucking jerk?
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Post by: DaltonSezHi on June 03, 2016, 06:45:20 pm
Death Grips Mention Count: 2
I'm glad I was able to update this.
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Post by: McMillan and Waifu on June 03, 2016, 07:05:05 pm
As was suggested in the episode, there's a surprising amount of overlap between the NoFap community and the Alpha Men / RedPill communities. I can't really explain it.
Edit: found my previous post on the matter:
On a related note that's probably TMI, the MRA idiot in my class (one of them at least) once said something about how masterbating was damaging psychologically because it makes you think you don't need to get laid, and I was so fucking pissed by that that that same evening I masterbated just to defy him. Ambious, December 21, 2015, 05:47:34 am
To build on Frank West's explanation, it's the incel/MRA/PUA collective's quasi-Augustine wing. They admire religious asceticism and austere piety, but for them actually becoming religious is a no-go. So they secularize and technologize the part they think is the most relevant, i.e. don't touch the whangus, and make it into a devotional goal - "if I stop jerking it, I'll totally fix everything that's wrong with me and finally be able to get laid, just as as I prayed for just as my web buddies scientifically proved"
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Post by: Fanzay on June 03, 2016, 07:13:50 pm
The part I don't understand about this whole NoFap thing (besides all of it) is that apparently sex is OK but masturbation isn't? What? ZapthisShermanTankCrap, June 03, 2016, 04:42:17 pm
These people shouldn't leave the house, though! They should take nofap to its logical conclusion and self-select themselves out of the gene pool, I mean god damn jesus h christ these people actually think not masturbating will turn them into Randian supermen! Fuck those guys. No wait actually do the opposite of that
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Post by: A Meat on June 03, 2016, 11:08:34 pm
I think I'm going to start a program where you can become a certified Life Pussy
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Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on June 04, 2016, 10:54:01 am
P.M.O. Style is the best Method Man song
E: and a song for the guy in this episode who was afflicted with Porn Gremlins
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Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on June 04, 2016, 01:44:19 pm
I was really into reddit four or five years ago, I think around when no-fap started to take off. As I understood it, it was a support group for actual porn/masturbation addicts, the ones who were losing relationships because it was fucking up their sex drive and losing their jobs because they kept jerking off in the stockroom. Because the internet in general and reddit in particular really like small optimistic soundbites, I guess the message warped into "not masturbating makes you a better man!"
There's a reasonable idea somewhere at the core, but of course once you start talking to them and joining in with their shit, it gets extra culty and delusional. That's what I really don't get. I can see someone reading about how someone's life improved when they started watching less porn, and maybe decides not to jerk it for a week or two, but how do they not start reading these posts and realise that's not what it's really about?
edit: Also, in regard to the slightly different scores, reddit fuzzes displayed votes a little. I don't really get how it works, but apparently hiding the exact score is useful to prevent spammers and vote manipulators, because their fake internet score system is sacred.
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Post by: Cleretic on June 04, 2016, 04:01:25 pm
I was really into reddit four or five years ago, I think around when no-fap started to take off. As I understood it, it was a support group for actual porn/masturbation addicts, the ones who were losing relationships because it was fucking up their sex drive and losing their jobs because they kept jerking off in the stockroom. Because the internet in general and reddit in particular really like small optimistic soundbites, I guess the message warped into "not masturbating makes you a better man!"moooo566, June 04, 2016, 01:44:19 pm
That's what kind of struck me through all this. There's a couple people in there that really need this, but not because it turns them into an almighty superman like they seem to think. But at some point I think it went through a weird mutation of the Tumblr thing, where the actual support structures of people with actual problems got taken over by idiots with no actual problems, but instead of the Tumblr case of pretending to be more broken than they are it's Reddit's style of deciding that this will make them even better.
Which is... better, arguably? It speaks to better self-confidence, at least. Although I'd argue the Tumblr brand of it comes largely from younger people desperately trying to parse not fitting into what society tells them is normal, while Reddit is generally directed by a misplaced sense of grandeur. Normal trying to see themselves as lesser, rather than normal trying to see themselves as greater.
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Post by: Fanzay on June 04, 2016, 05:06:39 pm
I was really into reddit four or five years ago, I think around when no-fap started to take off. As I understood it, it was a support group for actual porn/masturbation addicts, the ones who were losing relationships because it was fucking up their sex drive and losing their jobs because they kept jerking off in the stockroom. Because the internet in general and reddit in particular really like small optimistic soundbites, I guess the message warped into "not masturbating makes you a better man!"
There's a reasonable idea somewhere at the core, but of course once you start talking to them and joining in with their shit, it gets extra culty and delusional. That's what I really don't get. I can see someone reading about how someone's life improved when they started watching less porn, and maybe decides not to jerk it for a week or two, but how do they not start reading these posts and realise that's not what it's really about?
edit: Also, in regard to the slightly different scores, reddit fuzzes displayed votes a little. I don't really get how it works, but apparently hiding the exact score is useful to prevent spammers and vote manipulators, because their fake internet score system is sacred. moooo566, June 04, 2016, 01:44:19 pm
Yeah, it was (super emphasis on was) an idea where some people wanted to try to shift away from masturbating too much (however much too much is, is left up to your imagination, but it was perceived by early nofap-doods as a problem) in order to try to feel better about themselves. But this is the internet, so they became crazy idiots who believe their sacred essence should stay inside their bodies, and that ejaculating actually burns away your testosterone and other insane things.
Title: Episode 214: Jerks Off Of Jerking Off
Post by: KingKalamari on June 04, 2016, 05:56:24 pm
Ejaculation Sensation has a twelve minute guitar solo undercut by Ike Willis talking like King-Fish.
Title: Episode 214: Jerks Off Of Jerking Off
Post by: EYE OF ZA on June 04, 2016, 05:58:16 pm
I was impressed but not surprised how much crossover this had with shit like ballbusting or the big penis support forums but I suppose it's kind of inevitable, It's just another iteration of the internet phenomena of guys obsessing over their dicks.
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Post by: GirlKisser420 on June 04, 2016, 06:23:33 pm
There actually is a thing where they don't fuck. They call it hard mode.
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Post by: Chaymie on June 04, 2016, 06:26:00 pm
(http://i63.tinypic.com/p9029.png)
No one tell them the episode has a ~life girl~
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Post by: Sherman Tank on June 04, 2016, 06:37:51 pm
Christ All-fucking-mighty.
Oh, and as far as Unwanted Tag Suggestions go, how about adding "no homo"?
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Post by: Cleretic on June 04, 2016, 06:55:44 pm
There actually is a thing where they don't fuck. They call it hard mode. GirlKisser420, June 04, 2016, 06:23:33 pm
What's the point, then? You're... preserving your testosterone, to make yourself more sexually capable and desirable, by not having sex?
That's like Reddit deliberately fuzzing their ratings system to preserve the sanctity of their ratings system.
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Post by: Chaymie on June 04, 2016, 06:59:05 pm
The point is you can't struggle with premature ejaculation and awkwardness if you don't ejaculate or leave the house.
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Post by: Fanzay on June 04, 2016, 07:01:36 pm
THAT'S NOT HOW TESTOSTERONE WORKS ARGH NHGA GAGAHSGJH FHAHGASFAKSJDALKSdjasdkfjlkajlkdflkasdfk
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Post by: Nickel_Nips on June 04, 2016, 07:07:35 pm
Fine, I'll make the obvious joke:
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Post by: Fanzay on June 04, 2016, 07:08:19 pm
Also uhh, even if you did "lose out" on a meaningful amount of testosterone through ejaculate, you'd lose it anyway, given the nightly emissions you have when you don't masturbate so you're fucked anyway
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Post by: EYE OF ZA on June 04, 2016, 08:47:45 pm
It doesn't need any basis in reality it's just enlightenment through asceticism, except for these dudes it's sex power through boner issues
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Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on June 04, 2016, 09:16:04 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/tuv0iVE.jpg)
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Post by: Nifty Nif on June 04, 2016, 10:10:44 pm
I loved Nutshell in this! And your goofy penis voice did not sound like a valley girl to me. Just sayin'. I also loved John Toast! I recently described my sense of humor as "avuncular" when I wanted a catch-all for "awkward, dad-like, and pun-centric." This episode was a pun bonanza.
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Post by: John Toast on June 05, 2016, 04:21:01 am
I loved Nutshell in this! And your goofy penis voice did not sound like a valley girl to me. Just sayin'. I also loved John Toast! I recently described my sense of humor as "avuncular" when I wanted a catch-all for "awkward, dad-like, and pun-centric." This episode was a pun bonanza. Nifty Nif, June 04, 2016, 10:10:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7CVYjy8.png)
More like av-uncle-lar am I right
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Post by: xX_sp00ks_Xx on June 05, 2016, 08:50:12 am
Yes... Yes... we are slowly amassing more and more material for my doc about F plus subjects reacting to the F plus doc.
Speaking of which, can someone give me a link to the reddit thread?
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Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on June 05, 2016, 11:52:56 am
Here, (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/4mjrve/some_random_podcast_made_fun_of_nofap_for_an_hour) but be warned that it's really boring and there isn't much to mine
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Post by: JamEngulfer on June 05, 2016, 01:11:59 pm
Oh wow, I was not expecting an episode on that community. I ran into them a while ago and it is just the weirdest thing to make a community over
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Post by: oscaruglyface on June 05, 2016, 06:36:31 pm
Yet again the people of reddit fails to figure out moderation. It has to be all or nothing at all times or else.
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Post by: John Toast on June 05, 2016, 07:25:11 pm
Here, (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/4mjrve/some_random_podcast_made_fun_of_nofap_for_an_hour) but be warned that it's really boring and there isn't much to mine AgentCoop, June 05, 2016, 11:52:56 am
On this topic, here's (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/28h10z/my_top_7_nofap_songs/) why I chose Mighty Mighty Man as the episode song. I briefly considered using Breaking The Habit by Linkin Park as the ending song because they loved that one so much, but as I told Lemon and others, that would mean that I and others would have had to listen to Breaking The Habit by Linkin Park.
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Post by: Nifty Nif on June 05, 2016, 08:29:03 pm
Here, (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/4mjrve/some_random_podcast_made_fun_of_nofap_for_an_hour) but be warned that it's really boring and there isn't much to mine AgentCoop, June 05, 2016, 11:52:56 am
On this topic, here's (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/28h10z/my_top_7_nofap_songs/) why I chose Mighty Mighty Man as the episode song. I briefly considered using Breaking The Habit by Linkin Park as the ending song because they loved that one so much, but as I told Lemon and others, that would mean that I and others would have had to listen to Breaking The Habit by Linkin Park. John Toast, June 05, 2016, 07:25:11 pm
I knew I had heard "Mighty Mighty Man" recently! What was it Bodark said about why Fallout appeals so well to creeps?...
OUTBACK WASTELAND NO RULES, JUST RIGHT Quote from
Excellent choice.
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Post by: Gyro on June 06, 2016, 07:11:52 am
I mean on the one hand it's nice to see these people developing the self awareness to realize that they're socially inept morons who have no love lives but on the other hand they've grossly misidentified the source of their problems... KingKalamari, June 03, 2016, 05:27:09 pm
Emphasis on grossly.
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Post by: Corn Syrup on June 06, 2016, 04:22:50 pm
Thanks for the new username, Boots!
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Post by: Ambious on June 08, 2016, 10:49:53 am
Sorry for mini-modding, but here's a quick reminder about the Prime Directive (http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=106.0). Not that someone violated it or anything, but it's good to be reminded every time the F-Plus comes up in one of its subject communities to stay out and keep it in the comment section.
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Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on June 08, 2016, 11:07:07 am
Sorry for mini-modding, but here's a quick reminder about the Prime Directive (http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=106.0). Not that someone violated it or anything, but it's good to be reminded every time the F-Plus comes up in one of its subject communities to stay out and keep it in the comment section. Ambious, June 08, 2016, 10:49:53 am