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Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 06, 2013, 08:02:36 pm
Hi there!

So, I'm working on something right now, the details of which I'll make available over the next two weeks, but the most relevant facts are that it's a thing which is A.) very much F Plus related and more importantly B.) actually going to be made. At the moment, it's kind of a codepen at the moment, but something will come out of this, hopefully something good.

BUT HERE'S WHAT I NEED FROM YOU:
I need a collection of every wrong statement spoken aloud in F Plus podcasts. Untrue things about the hadron collider, misinformed things about women, stupid things about herbalism, spurious things about vaccinations, I want all the wrong things you can recall from the podcast, and quantity is more important at the moment than the quality of the wrongness.

From a macro level what I'm looking for is stupid statements made from the people we read, but I am aware that a few wrong statements have been recorded from the Ridiculists, and those are admissible too, the only real limitation here is that it has to be something that was actually said outloud in an F+ broadcast.

So, I have this spreadsheet for you to edit (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj-JZfNoP3FHdHVjOXp6djNyZGxyU2Fhb3FvTU80U3c&usp=sharing) with three fields: The statement made, the episode it's from and the author of the statement. If the author's unclear that's okay, but preferably we can assign attribution to every statement.

Thank you. I'll have more details about this thing soon.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 06, 2013, 08:38:16 pm
To clarify: I need specific statements.

"Not being turned on by bugs is unnatural" :: YES
"Everything Amy Lee says" :: NO
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Legit on November 06, 2013, 08:45:25 pm
Well this turned out predictably
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: chai tea latte on November 06, 2013, 09:13:42 pm
this is fucking incredible. I didn't realize how entertaining it would be to see a spreadsheet cell that just read "Dolphins cannot access multiple dimensions."
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: KingKalamari on November 06, 2013, 09:27:09 pm
Okay, so I'm responsible for both the Goofus and Gallant entires Lemon highlighted: I'll take another swing through the list and flesh out some of the more vague entries I posted (I will be making very long lists for Amy Lee and Jonathan Lee Riches).
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 06, 2013, 10:02:41 pm
This is genuinely a great list so far, and exactly what I was hoping to have. Thank you, keep going.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Runic on November 06, 2013, 10:04:25 pm
"I like big butts and I can not lie"   Episode 73   Sir Mix-a-lot   False, he CAN lie

I love you people. I really do.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Legit on November 06, 2013, 10:47:38 pm
"I like big butts and I can not lie"   Episode 73   Sir Mix-a-lot   False, he CAN lie

I love you people. I really do.
Runic, November 06, 2013, 10:04:25 pm

Woo! That was me.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 06, 2013, 10:55:17 pm
I think my favorite so far is...

Frozen cum is a refreshing summer treat | 63 | cumpantyboy | Cum is not refreshing
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 07, 2013, 12:22:34 am
Okay, I'm a couple hours in and here's a snippet of the Javascript.

(http://i.imgur.com/hSIamLP.gif)

See where I'm going with this?
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 07, 2013, 10:24:35 am
Also, if you know more than a little bit about node.js and socket.io, please private message me.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: count_actuala on November 07, 2013, 10:33:11 am
There are no Bigfeets.
I love this project.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Zsa Zsa on November 07, 2013, 02:12:40 pm
Say, if you're making a card game will you be needing illustrations?
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on November 07, 2013, 03:16:09 pm
I want to compare the Sherlock episode against the Sherlock Holmes trivia/knowledge books I've got on my shelf. But that would mean listening to the Sherlock episode again.

Decisions, decisions...
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 07, 2013, 03:29:56 pm
Say, if you're making a card game will you be needing illustrations?
Zsa Zsa, November 07, 2013, 02:12:40 pm
If you're offering.

Although I'm not actually sure what I'm gonna need yet. It'll probably be next week before I know what the interface should look like.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Isfahan on November 07, 2013, 04:34:31 pm
Not to get all Wikipedia-sperg, but a lot of these entries are based on conjecture (e.g. "Having your breasts inflate feels good") rather than an objective falseness. There's a difference between saying "I can't imagine that inflating breasts feels good" and "I know for a fact having your boobs fill with sugar is painful."

Also a lot of the entries are based on fictional premises, like stories that are made up to begin with or anything written for Malatora.

Then again, I don't know what Lemon needs these statements for, so maybe it's all good. Whatevs, Picard. I just had the impression that he was looking only for "hard" wrong statements that are demonstrably false like "The Latino people have never had a revolution" and "Light is the most basic corrosive we know of."
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Runic on November 07, 2013, 05:03:14 pm
I'm pretty confident that having your breasts fill with suger until they are the size of beach balls would not feel very good. The part where they skin tears off and you start bleeding out, for instance, would likely be quite painful.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Isfahan on November 07, 2013, 05:08:05 pm
All I care about is that you understand my point.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Runic on November 07, 2013, 05:10:54 pm
We don't know exactly what Lemon is planning on doing with this information, so it seems appropriate to interpret his instructions as broadly as possible for comedic purposes. Besides, he said he liked what we had so far.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: KingKalamari on November 07, 2013, 06:00:28 pm
I also want in on this illustration racket
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Moriarty on November 07, 2013, 10:39:34 pm
I am so hoping this is some kind of Apples to Apples / Cards Against Humanity clone with Fplus 'facts' as answer cards.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 07, 2013, 10:58:44 pm
We don't know exactly what Lemon is planning on doing with this information[...]
Runic, November 07, 2013, 05:10:54 pm
Okay okay, I'll be a little less coy with information, but only just...

So the idea here is a party (card) game, written almost entirely in javascript, where each player is presented with an incorrect statement. You then have to defend the veracity of your own statement, arguing that it is the most least wrong thing being said. After everyone makes their pitch, all players vote on The Most Wrong Thing which was said that round. Statements deemed to be Only Sort of Wrong are discarded, statements deemed Incredibly Wrong are shuffled back in the deck with a bonus indicator attached to them. Both players and statments are awarded points each round, so can earn points for convincing people your statement is correct, and you'll get even more points if that statement was previously determined to be fucking coo-coo.

From the suggestions made in the doc, I've currently added 36 of them to the card database. For these purposes, a declarative statement like "A toilet is becoming a completely foreign object to women." fits much better in the confines of the game than something that would need explanation or definition. If I need to explain what a djinn is, that's gonna make defending my statement harder. Similarly, if there's a confusion of who the subject of a sentence is (is this me saying this or Naryu?), that's also a problem.

All that said, if you put something in the doc I don't like, I won't use it. Scrolling down isn't particularly difficult for me, I have a little wheel on my mouse that does exactly that! So because of that, and because of the fact that it would be healthy for the game to have different kinds of wrong statements, I'm not really encouraging a lot of self-editing at this stage. But I recognize it would be better for you to know what I'm looking for here.

I'm attaching a screenshot, but just please know that the actual game will look nothing like this.

(http://i.imgur.com/Sk3525m.png)
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 07, 2013, 10:59:47 pm
I also want in on this illustration racket
KingKalamari, November 07, 2013, 06:00:28 pm

And what a racket it is! You'll make zeroes of dollars!

Icons are probably gonna be the first order of business here.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: chai tea latte on November 08, 2013, 12:23:15 am
I also want in on this illustration racket
KingKalamari, November 07, 2013, 06:00:28 pm

And what a racket it is! You'll make zeroes of dollars!

Icons are probably gonna be the first order of business here.
Lemon, November 07, 2013, 10:59:47 pm
I have some pixel art experience, mostly in RPG sprite sheets and icons. Let me know if that's relevant?
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Lemon on November 08, 2013, 12:46:29 am
I have some pixel art experience, mostly in RPG sprite sheets and icons. Let me know if that's relevant?
kal-elk, November 08, 2013, 12:23:15 am
Actuallly no, I'll be going pretty much the opposite direction. 100% Vector.

RARRR (http://raphaeljs.com/tiger.html)
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: chai tea latte on November 08, 2013, 01:19:23 am
I have some pixel art experience, mostly in RPG sprite sheets and icons. Let me know if that's relevant?
kal-elk, November 08, 2013, 12:23:15 am
Actuallly no, I'll be going pretty much the opposite direction. 100% Vector.

RARRR (http://raphaeljs.com/tiger.html)
Lemon, November 08, 2013, 12:46:29 am

YAY VECTOR
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: montrith on November 08, 2013, 01:54:49 am
Okay, now that I know what you're doing this is going to be much easier.
Title: LEMON NEEDS HELP: Collect incorrect statements
Post by: Isfahan on November 08, 2013, 06:23:17 am
As with Cards Against Humanity and big black dicks, pretty much anything from AboveTopSecret will be a trump when it's played.