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Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Lemon on July 23, 2020, 03:51:17 pm: Shit Dick Beast (https://thefpl.us/episode/328).
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: FourStopCrossShot on July 23, 2020, 04:10:28 pm: I visited balls dot horse and instantly regretted it. Seems like an easy website for anyone to randomly stumble across too
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Penultimatum on July 23, 2020, 04:28:09 pm: I visited balls dot horse and instantly regretted it. Seems like an easy website for anyone to randomly stumble across too
Hilijix, July 23, 2020, 04:10:28 pm
That’s certainly a page view tracker, huh
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: I Liked That Joke on July 23, 2020, 04:29:30 pm: Oh my god another episode so soon, this makes me so happy!
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: chai tea latte on July 23, 2020, 05:35:00 pm: Oh my god another episode so soon, this makes me so happy!
I Liked That Joke, July 23, 2020, 04:29:30 pm
this release cadence pwns my tits clean off
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: cube abuser on July 23, 2020, 07:19:43 pm: I visited balls dot horse and instantly regretted it. Seems like an easy website for anyone to randomly stumble across too
Hilijix, July 23, 2020, 04:10:28 pm
i read this before listening to the episode and thought it was going to be a fun spinoff website like damn.dog
it was not
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Penultimatum on July 23, 2020, 08:04:02 pm: I think it was about the point where you started reading people’s character sheets that I was suddenly grateful that my imagination doesn’t work anymore
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 24, 2020, 03:45:57 am: My thoughts during the section on "Nasty": "wait, is that why the nasty boys that Janet Jackson sings about eat all that nasty food? To try and immunize themselves from their own nastiness? God, what a heartbreaking life the nasty boys must lead -- no wonder Kate Beaton did that documentary comic about their struggle."

Also, I was authentically relieved when SPED turned out to be more stupid poop nonsense instead of being ableist. I don't know what that says about me, but it probably says something.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: GirlKisser420 on July 24, 2020, 04:54:45 am: I like that there's no effort to make anything seem sexy or erotic at all
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 24, 2020, 05:29:35 am: I like that there's no effort to make anything seem sexy or erotic at all
GirlKisser420, July 24, 2020, 04:54:45 am

What, not all fired up by the sheer blazing eroticism of "doing Cock damage to a Muff?"
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Cheapskate on July 24, 2020, 06:53:48 am: I kept expecting to hear about the Jizzral-Phallustinian conflict.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Secret Gaygent 69 on July 24, 2020, 09:18:01 am: I really did not expect there to be an rpg capable of competing with FATAL for the worst rpg.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: adrenochrome dome on July 24, 2020, 10:22:06 am: Is this the grossest episode? Not counting morally repugnant things--I'd argue most of the horror of adult babies comes from their festering psyches.

You guys made a revolting pit of sludge into one hell of an episode.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: EYE OF ZA on July 24, 2020, 11:47:32 am: these people are into sex/fetishes the way the I Fucking Love Science people are into science
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: A Meat on July 24, 2020, 02:56:50 pm: I was wondering what the games the System Mastery guys wouldn't touch were like, now I know
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Turbo Sexaphonic Vampire Bunnybread Jr. on July 24, 2020, 08:07:12 pm: Shit Dick Beast is the worst thing I've ever heard ever make it stop
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: rhorsman on July 25, 2020, 10:02:31 am: Somehow Bunnybread's "crunchy with gravy" was the grossest thing in this whole episode.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: rhorsman on July 25, 2020, 10:14:40 am: Also Shit Dick Beast is basically in de Sade's 120 Days of Sodom, and it's the first thing I think of whenever someone refers to him as "the divine Marquis".
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: KingKalamari on July 25, 2020, 04:21:08 pm: I've gotta say...Not the worst "erotic" tabletop RPG I've seen. While the actual content of this thing is horrifying, I don't think it's any more disturbing than Black Tokyo and, from a purely mechanical standpoint, it's not as bad as it could be.

FATAL is kind of the most infamous example of a terrible RPG, and I've seen a few people compare FAPP to it in this thread, but FAPP is nowhere near the level of FATAL. While FATAL might be famous for having players roll for monster cock circumference during character creation, that game's badness went far beyond the juvenile sex stuff, misogynist views and rape fascination.

If you strip away all the gross fetish shit from FAPP you're left with a fairly run of the mill RPG mechanics wise. You strip away all the gross sex shit from FATAL and you still have an utterly unplayable mess of a game with mechanics so needlessly complicated they require players to solve algebraic equations to determine the size of a druid's magic circle.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 25, 2020, 07:02:25 pm: I fukken love furry episodes. The whole furry aesthetic hits me in the uncanny valley hard, but I love how insanely weird they get. Like, a normal fetish episode would be just a thing all about one of these weird fetishes, but furries just throw it all in like a horrific fetish casserole and all I can do is giggle at the surreal idea of this turning someone on.

Also for anyone who is confused at this being an entire rules system: I'm adjacent to the indie RPG scene and HOO BOY. Basically think of RPG systems and settings as fanfic for these people. And FAPP is their... well, I was going to say Omegaverse, but FAPP seems to be considerably more lighthearted and less tied to shitty gender roles, and I don't know much about other weird sex fanfic stuff.

The point is, it'd be more surprising if there weren't a complex weird sex furry RPG, because nerds are nerds.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 25, 2020, 07:12:46 pm: I fukken love furry episodes. The whole furry aesthetic hits me in the uncanny valley hard, but I love how insanely weird they get. Like, a normal fetish episode would be just a thing all about one of these weird fetishes, but furries just throw it all in like a horrific fetish casserole and all I can do is giggle at the surreal idea of this turning someone on.
Puppy Time, July 25, 2020, 07:02:25 pm
Yeah, I found myself wondering what the actual fetish situation was here. If this line is written by one person, are they authentically into all this stuff, or is there some level of "welp, this isn't my thing but I gotta make my furry porn game inclusive" going on? I kind of hope for the latter, although there's enough of the shit stuff in play that I assume that's definitely a real fetish for the author.

Also, based on the initial focus on cocks/twinks/studs, I initially assumed this was going to be an exclusively gay male furry porn RPG; I'm still not sure it isn't that way in spirit, given how perfunctory all the material about women seems to be, although maybe that was the reading choices. I kind of feel like it'd be better to just make your Furry Fuck Shit Hell Game completely male-focused, if that's how you're learning, versus throwing women in as a "well, I guess you can play one" option.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: KingKalamari on July 25, 2020, 07:42:23 pm: I fukken love furry episodes. The whole furry aesthetic hits me in the uncanny valley hard, but I love how insanely weird they get. Like, a normal fetish episode would be just a thing all about one of these weird fetishes, but furries just throw it all in like a horrific fetish casserole and all I can do is giggle at the surreal idea of this turning someone on.
Puppy Time, July 25, 2020, 07:02:25 pm
Yeah, I found myself wondering what the actual fetish situation was here. If this line is written by one person, are they authentically into all this stuff, or is there some level of "welp, this isn't my thing but I gotta make my furry porn game inclusive" going on? I kind of hope for the latter, although there's enough of the shit stuff in play that I assume that's definitely a real fetish for the author.

Also, based on the initial focus on cocks/twinks/studs, I initially assumed this was going to be an exclusively gay male furry porn RPG; I'm still not sure it isn't that way in spirit, given how perfunctory all the material about women seems to be, although maybe that was the reading choices. I kind of feel like it'd be better to just make your Furry Fuck Shit Hell Game completely male-focused, if that's how you're learning, versus throwing women in as a "well, I guess you can play one" option.
Antivehicular, July 25, 2020, 07:12:46 pm

Given the nature of tabletop games and the sheer number of supplements that have been written for this thing (For some reason?) it wouldn't surprise me if it's a little bit of both? I'm assuming these supplements are the work of multiple people, so it might just be the case that the more baffling or disgusting content is the fetish of the particular person writing that supplement, but all the fetishes being represented in the game don't belong to any one person.

This entire things seems to be heavily community-driven by design.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 25, 2020, 07:58:03 pm: Oh, yeah, if it's written by multiple people or has community-driven development, it all makes sense. Everyone's gotta get their personal kink in there even if the result is a disjointed mess.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Mix on July 25, 2020, 08:12:58 pm: Never have I ever felt more relief getting that 'nobody you know is following' message when I went to the creator's Twitter page

also yeah it's only one person doing basically all of this besides the art (which i'm pretty sure is only MOSTLY their art)
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Pavlova on July 25, 2020, 08:37:08 pm: are they... jacking it to this? there's SO MUCH worldbuilding.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on July 25, 2020, 09:57:31 pm: The image stuck in my head is of a group of furries unironically getting together to play this and not just having sex instead? Like even over skype, you could just jerk off right? Why get out the dice?
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Lemon on July 25, 2020, 10:38:22 pm: The image syuck in my head is of a group of furries unironically getting together to play this and not just having sex instead? Like even over skype, you could just jerk off right? Why get out the dice?
Dr. Buttplug, July 25, 2020, 09:57:31 pm

"Why don't they just jack off?" is a question you could ask about a lot of our subjects.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: EYE OF ZA on July 25, 2020, 10:56:21 pm: The image syuck in my head is of a group of furries unironically getting together to play this and not just having sex instead? Like even over skype, you could just jerk off right? Why get out the dice?
Dr. Buttplug, July 25, 2020, 09:57:31 pm
These people don't want a game to jerk off to, they want a game themed around their main hobby. That hobby just happens to be jerking off.

If these people were Game of Thrones fans instead of masturbation fans they'd be buying the Game of Thrones Monopoly set. Or this, which I found when googling "themed monopoly sets":
(https://www.amazon.com/images/I/81vC1uav5%2BL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 25, 2020, 11:36:12 pm: The image syuck in my head is of a group of furries unironically getting together to play this and not just having sex instead? Like even over skype, you could just jerk off right? Why get out the dice?
Dr. Buttplug, July 25, 2020, 09:57:31 pm
I've attempted to capture the elements necessary for their sexual expression in this MS Paint Venn diagram:

(https://i.imgur.com/vZiERm3.png)
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 26, 2020, 01:10:03 am: Also, based on the initial focus on cocks/twinks/studs, I initially assumed this was going to be an exclusively gay male furry porn RPG; I'm still not sure it isn't that way in spirit, given how perfunctory all the material about women seems to be, although maybe that was the reading choices. I kind of feel like it'd be better to just make your Furry Fuck Shit Hell Game completely male-focused, if that's how you're learning, versus throwing women in as a "well, I guess you can play one" option.
Antivehicular, July 25, 2020, 07:12:46 pm

From what I've seen of furries and fetishes, the presence of tits and vag does not necessarily imply the involvement of women; they seem to be very "yes, and" with regard to genitals. And other body parts. Just slap a bunch of bits together; someone'll fuck it, if only to be nice.

are they... jacking it to this? there's SO MUCH worldbuilding.
Pavlova, July 25, 2020, 08:37:08 pm

1) There's a certain breed of nerd that just needs to worldbuild, anytime, anywhere.

2) There's a certain breed of fetishist that turns the whole thing into a fandom, like a sports fan painting their house in team colors or a Legend of Zelda fan commissioning the Master Sword, only considerably less acceptable around minors.

This is, presumably, the result of both at once. And entirely too much free time.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 26, 2020, 04:02:39 am: 1) There's a certain breed of nerd that just needs to worldbuild, anytime, anywhere.

2) There's a certain breed of fetishist that turns the whole thing into a fandom, like a sports fan painting their house in team colors or a Legend of Zelda fan commissioning the Master Sword, only considerably less acceptable around minors.

This is, presumably, the result of both at once. And entirely too much free time.
Puppy Time, July 26, 2020, 01:10:03 am
I think a certain kind of person (probably more nerd than fetishist, if I had to guess) really needs justifications for what they're doing, which results in both the worldbuilding and in needing to use a mechanical system and supplements in the first place. They can't just handwave away "why is (some sex nonsense) happening?" with "this is a sex RP and we think it's hot, who cares," they need to have some kind of rigorous lore that explains why their Cumslinger can shoot 20 elemental loads a day, ideally with a source citation like it's goddamn Wikipedia.

I also assume some of this is justification for fetish elements that might seem cruel or horrific otherwise, like all the "don't worry, nobody really ever dies" stuff as a justification for vore; from the outside, it doesn't help at all ("don't worry, nobody dies, they just get eaten and merged into other people's bodies, with their souls used as currency!!"), but for people who are into vore, I guess this makes them feel better about it?
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Chupasaurus-Rex on July 26, 2020, 08:34:32 am: I feel like this episode contains some of the most complicated boners that we have run into. Like, not as confusing as a lot of the others we have seen. But definitely among the worst for number of steps from start to finish.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: EYE OF ZA on July 26, 2020, 10:34:22 am: The only way I can hear Bunnybread's "tits and muff and cock and sack" is like

And they burst from the screen and into their eyes
And their tits and their muff and their cock and their sack
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Lemon on July 26, 2020, 01:43:20 pm: The only way I can hear Bunnybread's "tits and muff and cock and sack" is like
And they burst from the screen and into their eyes

And their tits and their muff and their cock and their sack
THE CURSE OF THE WITCH OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB, July 26, 2020, 10:34:22 am

Holy crap.

Boots has a project to do
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: surrey on July 26, 2020, 03:49:01 pm: I'm really trying to imagine someone playing this game. Like, no one's ever played this in person right? I assume some people have had to play it to finance the actual creation of the thing but is it only online? Are people stopping every once in a while to jack off at the mere thought of a two foot cock shooting cum at a shit beast??? Did someone's mom come into the basement with snacks one day and stumble upon their child and friends just getting hot and heavy over this board game??

Just, I can't imagine a dm writing a story for this shit and players going about achieving a goal and not just breaking down immediately since every single player is That Guy who wants to do a funny sex with something horrifying.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Penultimatum on July 26, 2020, 04:13:54 pm: Just, I can't imagine a dm writing a story for this shit and players going about achieving a goal and not just breaking down immediately since every single player is That Guy who wants to do a funny sex with something horrifying.
surreyjack, July 26, 2020, 03:49:01 pm
Well obviously the goal the players are trying to achieve is to do a funny sex with something horrifying
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 26, 2020, 04:35:20 pm: If you're in a group of people who want to do a funny sex thing, and your game is entirely made of funny sex things, I feel like that's going to be an excellent game for that group. It sounds insufferable to me, but then so does golf and apparently a bunch of people like that shit, too.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Hot Cum Jerry on July 26, 2020, 08:49:01 pm: Is it more or less horrifying to imagine that this isn't anyone's fetish at all, this is just what they think jokes are?
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: KingKalamari on July 26, 2020, 09:02:00 pm: If you're in a group of people who want to do a funny sex thing, and your game is entirely made of funny sex things, I feel like that's going to be an excellent game for that group. It sounds insufferable to me, but then so does golf and apparently a bunch of people like that shit, too.
Puppy Time, July 26, 2020, 04:35:20 pm

I think where I struggle to understand this isn't so much that I don't get what these people are trying to achieve, it's that their methods of achieving it make no sense?

Over the course of the F Plus we've seen that a lot of fetishes end up taking on a community-like structure. For the people involved, being part of a group of like-minded people is just as important as getting off to sexy feet. So I can understand the motivation that some people would have to start up an RPG group with other members of the fetish community they belong to, and maybe integrate their common fetish into the game. "I want to play D&D with my friends in this community and, since we're all into eight-dicked macro-equitaurs, I want the game to support that."

In a case like that, that group would probably get the experience they're looking for by just adding their common fetish into an existing game system, and just make it a side-detail to what the overall goal of the game is: "We're playing a D&D game where we're all eight-dicked macro-equitaurs who go into dungeons and fight monsters, often using our many dicks as weapons". That's certainly a weird situation to an outside observer, but if that's what that particular group is into, I can understand why they're doing it.

The tricky part is that FAPP bases the entire game and all its mechanics around fucking in the same way D&D bases all its mechanics around fighting dragons in dungeons. Which leads to the question: "If the goal of the game is 100% about the fucking, why not just do a free-form sex RP?".

See, in game design I feel like one of the most important questions to ask isn't "What can the characters succeed at?", but "What can the characters fail at?". In an action-oriented game like D&D, one of the major focuses is on combat so it's very important that player characters have a chance to fail at fighting so there is a sense of stakes, drama and action. But in a game like this where it's all about the fucking, what does a chance of failure add to the experience? Like, what happens if you fail a sex roll in FAPP? How does not being able to sex good all the time serve the experience of the players?

That's why sex and RPG mechanics don't mix very well: If the goal of the players is to get their fuckon, all that pass/fail mechanics are doing is preventing them from doing so, and I don't feel like that adds to the experience in the same way that losing a fight in D&D does.

There was actually a (3rd party) supplement for 3rd Edition D&D called "The Book of Erotic Fantasy" that tried to add mechanics for sex stuff. Getting past the overt weirdness of the concept, it made a pretty earnest and good-faith attempt towards it goals, but the problem was that it never really provided a solution as to why giving characters mechanical attributes for their sexual ability was better than a player just saying "Hey, I hook up with that buxom tavern wench giving me the bedroom eyes" and letting the players do that since how well they were able to fuck that wench has no bearing on the game as a whole.

The only time adding sex with mechanics to a game really works is if those mechanics are more about defining the narrative consequences of people fucking, rather than trying to set up a "Roll 1d20+[Sex Mod] to sex good". Apocalypse World, for instance, features characters who all have a "sex move" which is a condition or mechanical effect that comes into play when their character has sex with another character in the game, but these moves are ones whose mechanics reinforce the role that particular player plays outside of sex scenes: For instance, the character class "The Brainer" has a sex move that allows them to automatically use the move "Deep Brain Scan" on the other person. That's weird and could easily have uncomfortable implications, but it's at least a mechanic that reinforces the experience of the player.

Basically I'm saying that the people playing this game would be better served either importing their fetishes into another system where the goal of the game is something other than sex (And if they have enough people to play this damned thing, they have enough people to get together their own group to play Fuck D&D without inflicting it on the unwitting) or just doing freeform sex RP.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Antivehicular on July 26, 2020, 09:56:59 pm: Apocalypse World, for instance, features characters who all have a "sex move" which is a condition or mechanical effect that comes into play when their character has sex with another character in the game, but these moves are ones whose mechanics reinforce the role that particular player plays outside of sex scenes: For instance, the character class "The Brainer" has a sex move that allows them to automatically use the move "Deep Brain Scan" on the other person. That's weird and could easily have uncomfortable implications, but it's at least a mechanic that reinforces the experience of the player.
KingKalamari, July 26, 2020, 09:02:00 pm
Apocalypse World sex moves are also about the concept that sex is personally meaningful, and the moves reinforce the emotional core of the character archetypes in response to intimacy. (The emotional core of the Brainer, for example, is being an invasive, predatory creep, so it gets a pretty creepy invasive sex move. Other playbooks get moves that revolve around whether or not they feel like sex means anything, whether they want to be connected to other people intimately, and things like that.) I feel like this is an important contrast to the way that FAPP and similar terrible sex TTRPGs treats the emotional and intimate elements of sex, namely that they don't seem to exist, and sex is either mechanical orgasm creation or actively violent and dangerous.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: I Liked That Joke on July 26, 2020, 10:20:55 pm: My personal theory: Tvtropes and CinemaSins et al. taught us that no fiction is good unless it shows its work, and that the highest achievement of narrative is flawless internal consistency. So if you want to play a narrative sex game it needs internally consistent rules, and if you want to include every weird fetish and scenario from FList then you're going to need a LOT of rules.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Tipsy Almond on July 26, 2020, 10:59:31 pm: I'm exceedingly hesitant to give this episode a listen.... mainly because I'm not into macro cocks or the super fringe fetishes like vore. From what I'm reading, FAPP feels like the furry equivalent of making a party game about Asa Akira and Piper Perri that only includes a crossbow, a pair of bongos, a spoon, and a gallon tub of vaseline, and all the instructions say are "use your imagination."

And King Kalamari made the main point: You play an RPG to emulate some sort of grand or engaging experience. You have sex to feel good. Foreplay kinda falters when you have to roll a die to see if it happens or not. :B

I'm tangentially familiar with the furry fandom and I don't think many furries would be able to even play this ironically...
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 27, 2020, 01:24:08 am: I have the impression that FAPP's end goal isn't so much "get your rocks off in erotic roleplay" as "have a weirdly sexual romp via tabletop game for some reason." Also it seems like some people can't deal with freeform RP and need there to be rules and rolls in place. I dunno, furry's a big community, big enough to contain multiples of all kinds of weird nerds, and weird and open enough that I can easily imagine a bunch of 'em going, "Hey, let's play a horrible penis monster sex game for fun, because we're so deep into weird sex stuff that it's basically window dressing in our lives!"

As to why the system was created instead of just kludging stuff into D&D... man, I couldn't even tell you, other than "same reason there's eleventy other unique homemade systems with their own settings and lore." Some nerds write stories, some nerds make plushies, some nerds make tabletop game systems.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: EYE OF ZA on July 27, 2020, 10:14:54 am: Also, regarding KingKalamari's point about fail states, I think the fail state in this game is basically "you don't get to be the top" (or the power bottom). It's reminiscent of another weird fetish-bin furry RPG, Corruption of Champions, except that one's a video game instead of a tabletop game: CoC has nominally "horny" combat that mostly just determines whether you get to fuck the gross sex monster at the end, or whether the gross sex monster fucks you. I think FAPP is operating on the same principle: you're trying to use your collection of fetishes to beat the enemies' collections of fetishes, thereby giving you narrative control over how you fuck them, with the risk that if you don't, the GM gets narrative control over how they fuck you.

The answer to the question of "why don't they just jerk off to regular porn" is probably that if your whole sexuality revolves around jerking off, you've got to start coming up with backstory or else you'll get bored.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 27, 2020, 12:09:28 pm: The answer to the question of "why don't they just jerk off to regular porn" is probably that if your whole sexuality revolves around jerking off, you've got to start coming up with backstory or else you'll get bored.
THE CURSE OF THE WITCH OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB, July 27, 2020, 10:14:54 am

I think it's also just a thing where creative types tend to get creative in response to whatever their milieu is: if you're really into an anime, you'll draw the people from that anime. If you're really into a podcast, you'll draw lettuce cow. If you're really into smut, you'll draw smut. Just in this case, instead of drawing, the creative outlet is making up tabletop rules and/or goofy worldbuilding.

It's just kind of a thing you do if you're idle in a lot of cases- going to the store, waiting in line at the bank, pooping. Helps if you're easily bored and therefore constantly in need of some kind of distraction.

It also helps if you've got an appreciative audience, and horny furries tend to make for extremely appreciative audiences.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Cradicus on July 27, 2020, 01:54:11 pm: I liked Portaxx's Sam Eagle joke.
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on July 27, 2020, 04:39:10 pm: I definitely think the people making it are doing it for the money. "I can quit my job and do this full time" for an amount of money they very obviously can't is very suspect, and there seems to be a lot of very low effort content mixed with obvious crazy fetish shit that's almost certainly fan generated.

I feel like this is an Occam's razor thing, the reason it doesn't seem to work like an enjoyable RPG should is because it isn't made to. It just doesn't seem like people are playing it? There's the session transcript on their website but every other discussion I can find (not many) is entirely based on the fluff and rulebooks with no mention of running a campaign. I found a roll20 listing which generated no interest and suggested it as a play by post. I think they're mostly just jerking off to the documentation, or at best just doing a little bit at a time, so they're never actually engaging with it outside the veil of horny brain fog (an experience which is not unique to furry RPGs).
Title: 328: You Are Likely To Be Yiffed By A Grue
Post by: Puppy Time on July 27, 2020, 04:50:42 pm: I feel like this is an Occam's razor thing, the reason it doesn't seem to work like an enjoyable RPG should is because it isn't made to.
worm, July 27, 2020, 04:39:10 pm

Honestly with most RPGs the Occam's razor is "it doesn't work like an enjoyable RPG because the people making it aren't really good at making enjoyable RPGs."
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Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on July 27, 2020, 08:12:43 pm: Remember when STOG joked about "rolling for orgasm" in the glasses episode and the joke was that it was a ridiculous exaggeration?
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Post by: Cheapskate on July 27, 2020, 08:49:12 pm: Maybe they just misunderstood Brandon Sanderson’s lectures about “hard magic.”
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Post by: I Liked That Joke on July 28, 2020, 12:04:12 am: I liked Portaxx's Sam Eagle joke.
Cradicus, July 27, 2020, 01:54:11 pm
Please don't steal my gimmick it's all I have.
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Post by: Bunnybread on July 28, 2020, 06:08:54 pm: I liked Portaxx's Sam Eagle joke.
Cradicus, July 27, 2020, 01:54:11 pm
Please don't steal my gimmick it's all I have.
I Liked That Joke, July 28, 2020, 12:04:12 am

I liked I Liked That Joke's joke.
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Post by: ParserGirl on July 28, 2020, 11:59:06 pm: I like this episode title very much.
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Post by: Down10 on July 29, 2020, 01:07:33 pm: I like that there's no effort to make anything seem sexy or erotic at all
GirlKisser420, July 24, 2020, 04:54:45 am
It’s not meant to be sexy or erotic. It’s purely a gross-out exercise.

It— It must be.
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Post by: Great Joe on July 29, 2020, 02:21:40 pm: It's a simulation so far removed from the act, it's like Football Manager, but for sex.