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Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Lemon on January 26, 2013, 09:22:41 pm
In the first Irregular episode, we have a lively discussion with three very different Kindleporn authors. There's Jessi Bond, Francis Ashe and a secret guest who wishes to remain nameless for reasons that will become obvious fairly quickly into the episode.

We spend about an hour and a half talking about the business of erotica publishing, the inspiration necessary for writing stories about vampires having sex with their stepfathers, and the sideways efforts of censorship.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Luna on February 07, 2013, 08:11:17 pm
Hey, folks, if anyone has questions about this subject I can answer them. I feel like the episode covers it all pretty well, but you never know.

And yes, getting paid to write short stories about hardcore Swamp Thing-on-werewolf smut is great. I still can't believe it works and I've been doing it for a year now.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Boots Raingear on February 07, 2013, 08:15:52 pm
Do you think there's a sexy dude supernatural genre that will take off once the ladies are sick of Werewolves? Superhunk Sorcerors? Hot Swamp Creatures? Buff Ghosts? Mummies that turn out to be studs when you take the wraps off?
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Isfahan on February 07, 2013, 08:31:43 pm
Looking to change professions, Boots? I don't think free market monster cockysis is something they just give away.

Oh, and if you do get into this line of work, don't take the pen name "Lance Manthrob." It's already spoken for.

...uh, by someone else.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Boots Raingear on February 07, 2013, 08:41:37 pm
Don't worry, my pen name is Margaret Gotwood.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Luna on February 07, 2013, 09:09:26 pm
Werewolves have already waned a bit, but I've heard about people having success with more generic "beastmen". I honestly don't know what that means, but it makes me picture 80s Beast. Everything else tends to flop, which makes me sad - goofy fantasy stuff is my favorite to write.

If you want a good way to check whether kindleporn is successful or not, check out the Amazon sales rank. There's a bit of variation but ~300k is a few sales a month, ~800k is a sale every other month or so, ~150k and up is where it starts to be successful... anything under 100k is selling well. It seems to depend on how many total sales the ebook's had, how old it is, and how recently it's had sales. New releases tend to have lower ranks, the lower the better. For reference I had a story that hovered between 150k and 90k rank when it was bringing in about $100-$150 a month.

What I'm saying here is don't look up Peter de Sade from the F+ kindleporn episode, you'll get depressed at how well his horse-dick stories are doing.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Isfahan on February 07, 2013, 09:23:36 pm
What I'm saying here is don't look up Peter de Sade from the F+ kindleporn episode, you'll get depressed at how well his horse-dick stories are doing.Luna, February 07, 2013, 09:09:26 pm

I'm going to steal a quote from my friend and former roommate Forensic:

"Cocks populi, vox Dei."
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Yossarian on February 08, 2013, 01:25:21 pm
I worked in a library for two years. Once upon a time the manager and I spotted this gem in the catalog of books we could order.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451689624 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451689624)
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Chaz on February 08, 2013, 01:28:53 pm
I worked in a library for two years. Once upon a time the manager and I spotted this gem in the catalog of books we could order.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451689624 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451689624)
Yossarian, February 08, 2013, 01:25:21 pm
Click To Look Inside!Quote from
No thank you, Amazon.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: montrith on February 08, 2013, 02:31:38 pm
So, you can actually, really make money with this? Cause I could use that extra hundred bux. I'm pretty sure I could write a really bad porn, even though I'm more trained in classical literature.

EDIT: Does going for the niche market help? I know a LOT of weird fetishes.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Isfahan on February 08, 2013, 03:21:33 pm
Could I write a story about gangbang with nothing but flamingly super gay Nazis and call it "Mein Camp," or would that be in poor taste even for this crowd?
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Lady Naga on February 08, 2013, 03:26:32 pm
Could I write a story about gangbang with nothing but flamingly super gay Nazis and call it "Mein Camp," or would that be in poor taste even for this crowd?
Isfahan, February 08, 2013, 03:21:33 pm
Call it "Shindler's Lisp".
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Luna on February 08, 2013, 07:48:05 pm
So, you can actually, really make money with this? Cause I could use that extra hundred bux. I'm pretty sure I could write a really bad porn, even though I'm more trained in classical literature.

EDIT: Does going for the niche market help? I know a LOT of weird fetishes.
montrith, February 08, 2013, 02:31:38 pm
Depends on how niche your niche is. If you want to get into this let me direct you to people who are much better at explaining, and have already compiled a bunch of info (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3503700).

e: For reference, your income's mainly going to depend on how frequently you release stuff, and on what you're writing. I release a single semi-niche story every month(ish) and I've been making about $300 for a few months now. It was better when I could get more releases written, but eh, life gets in the way.
Could I write a story about gangbang with nothing but flamingly super gay Nazis and call it "Mein Camp," or would that be in poor taste even for this crowd?
Isfahan, February 08, 2013, 03:21:33 pm

Somewhere I have a file with nothing but future titles that I intend to write someday. Most of them are about on par with this.

What I'm saying is go for it, man! There's no such thing as good taste here!
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Notm on February 08, 2013, 09:42:41 pm
I can't remember if this was asked but:

Do you guys read other Kindleporn stuff by other Authors for inspiration for a story, or would you read their stuff to see the competition?
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: squiddy on February 10, 2013, 12:28:25 pm
Don't worry, my pen name is Margaret Gotwood.
Boots Raingear, February 07, 2013, 08:41:37 pm

What you need is a random pen name generator.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Boots Raingear on February 11, 2013, 07:43:15 am

What you need is a random pen name generator.
squiddy, February 10, 2013, 12:28:25 pm

I'm too busy writing Python scripts to do my job for me.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on February 11, 2013, 04:45:52 pm
This episode was published ages before I actually got into the F+ or Irregular and I never really got a chance to properly comment on it until now. I think out of all the Irregular episodes this has been my favorite one. Insight into the world of kindle porn authors was actually really fascinating, and I now feel less alone as a guy who occasionally writes gay porn for fun.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Lemon on February 11, 2013, 07:41:08 pm
I'm too busy writing Python scripts to do my job for me.
Boots Raingear, February 11, 2013, 07:43:15 am
How long is it going to take for someone to strike up a fucking conversation about your avatar!? I'm trying to be patient, but god damn!
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Isfahan on February 11, 2013, 08:35:54 pm
I talked with him about it in Steam chat last week. Sorry, Lemon!
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Ambious on August 09, 2016, 09:55:03 pm
I move that this episode be revisited with Chuck Tingle.
Title: Episode 1: Kindleporn Authors
Post by: Lawnchair M.D. on October 15, 2016, 02:59:10 am
Just found this episode and it was really interesting. I work kind of on the Amazon side of things. While not on the books team I develop on site advertising for Amazon merchants. I have spent a lot of time working specifically on the books/ebooks part of the project. This has led me right into a lot of the kindle smut out there. When ever I find a really weird one I always end up asking myself who reads this, and where does it come from? Thanks for answering at least one of those questions.