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Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Lemon on November 02, 2013, 03:33:06 pm
with Boots Raingear, Bunnybread, Portaxx, John Toast, and Lemon.

Edited by Isfahan

Content for this episode was provided by Montrith.

In a pre-internet age, the best way for young guys who had problems finding love to meet other guys with the same problem was to ask the question "Hey dude, do you play Magic: The Gathering?" The community has become marginally more sophisticated since then and the term "incel" (involuntary celibacy) was born. "Involuntary Celibacy?" you ask, "isn't that a really irritating way to say that you can't get laid and pretend like it's a political group?" Well, welcome to love-shy.com, there's gonna be a whole lot of that kind of thing here. This week, The F Plus gets off just looking at each other.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Runic on November 02, 2013, 04:15:27 pm
An incel episode? Oh, you guys know just what I like!
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: chai tea latte on November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Chaymie on November 02, 2013, 05:24:02 pm
with Boots Raingear, Bunnybread, Portaxx, John Toast, and Lemon.

Edited by Isfahan

Content for this episode was provided by Montrith.

In a pre-internet age, the best way for young guys who had problems finding love to meet other guyswith the same problem was to ask the question "Hey dude, do you play Magic: The Gathering?" The community has become marginally more sophisticated since then and the term "incel" (involuntary celibacy) was born. "Involuntary Celibacy?" you ask, "isn't that a really irritating way to say that you can't get laid and pretend like it's a political group?" Well, welcome to love-shy.com, there's gonna be a whole lot of that kind of thing here. This week, The F Plus gets off just looking at each other.
Lemon, November 02, 2013, 03:33:06 pm

I think the readings might be taking over poor Lemon :(

E: I thought one of the classic traits of Aspergers is the inability to recognize the "fuck-off signal"
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on November 02, 2013, 06:13:30 pm
I want a Friend Zone in my apartment, but none of the rooms will accomodate a trampoline.

EDIT:
E: I thought one of the classic traits of Aspergers is the inability to recognize the "fuck-off signal"
Chaymie, November 02, 2013, 05:24:02 pm
Honestly, it depends on the person with Asperger's. Some can recognize a body language "fuck-off signal" but not a tone-of-voice one, and vice versa. Yes, difficulty with body language, facial expression, and tone of voice are pretty classic traits, but they don't always all exist at the same time in the same person.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Lemon on November 02, 2013, 07:37:43 pm
I just want to say that Magic: the Gathering has gotten me laid before
kal-elk, November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm

Hello there.

I want to hear this story immediately.

Stop whatever you're doing right now and share, separate thread optional.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: count_actuala on November 02, 2013, 07:57:11 pm
I just want to say that Magic: the Gathering has gotten me laid before
kal-elk, November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/MzvwvNH.gif)
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Chaymie on November 02, 2013, 09:27:02 pm
I just want to say that Magic: the Gathering has gotten me laid before
kal-elk, November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm

Hello there.

I want to hear this story immediately.

Stop whatever you're doing right now and share, separate thread optional.
Lemon, November 02, 2013, 07:37:43 pm

"Sorry guys. It took me so long to respond because I was GETTING LAID.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on November 02, 2013, 10:33:26 pm
Anyhoo, my final verdict: slightly less infuriating and slightly more pitiable than the MRAs, but not as funny on average as the PUAs.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: NutshellGulag on November 02, 2013, 10:40:20 pm
Please stop talking about your sex lives, even tangentially. Thanks.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on November 02, 2013, 10:44:28 pm
Please stop talking about your sex lives, even tangentially. Thanks.
NutshellGulag, November 02, 2013, 10:40:20 pm

Sorry, my bad.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: chai tea latte on November 03, 2013, 12:41:30 am
Yeah sorry about that. It's not a very interesting story, anyway. Lemon, I'll pm you if you like, but I think NutshellGulag has the right idea.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Lemon on November 03, 2013, 08:58:56 am
You realize it doesn't have to be real, right? I'm not going to do any due diligence in verification here, but the idea of a Magic The Gathering game ending with sexy results sounds remarkable
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Lemon on November 03, 2013, 09:03:43 am
Update: Kal-Elk PM'd me the story, and I want you to know that the prudishness in you just cheated you out of hearing the words "Strip Magic The Gathering Trivia" in context.


Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: PurpleXVI on November 03, 2013, 11:51:36 am
Meanwhile, back in the land of things that aren't incredibly dull, this episode was pretty rad. The whole DATING MACHINE thing felt like the author of Moon People attempting to somehow quantify or explain human interaction.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: KingKalamari on November 03, 2013, 12:34:02 pm
The recurrent theme I kept getting out of this episode was "I want a girlfriend but I don't want to actually TALK to people...If only there was a better way!"

I mean social anxiety is definitely a real thing a lot of people deal with but there's a big problem when your attitude towards it goes from "There is something wrong with me that prevents me from interacting with other people" to "There is something wrong with SOCIETY that prevents me from interacting with other people. Everything in the universe is preventing me from putting boners in vaginas!"
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Isfahan on November 03, 2013, 01:46:37 pm
Before I even start listening, I just want to say that Magic: the Gathering has gotten me laid beforekal-elk, November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm

That's only impressive if a guy says it and the guy isn't lying.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: NutshellGulag on November 03, 2013, 04:18:24 pm
Update: Kal-Elk PM'd me the story, and I want you to know that the prudishness in you just cheated you out of hearing the words "Strip Magic The Gathering Trivia" in context.
Lemon, November 03, 2013, 09:03:43 am

I'm okay with that.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on November 03, 2013, 05:15:24 pm
What is it with these people being like "I don't want friends but I do want a ~romantic partner~"? Ideally the person you date and/or spend your life with should be someone you consider a friend as well as a magical sex machine. Pretending the two can't overlap at all is staggeringly dumb.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: KingKalamari on November 03, 2013, 05:17:21 pm
What is it with these people being like "I don't want friends but I do want a ~romantic partner~"? Ideally the person you date and/or spend your life with should be someone you consider a friend as well as a magical sex machine. Pretending the two can't overlap at all is staggeringly dumb.
Cuddleturkey, November 03, 2013, 05:15:24 pm

I think these guys are people who just haven't discovered sex dolls yet...
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Isfahan on November 03, 2013, 05:42:21 pm
What is it with these people being like "I don't want friends but I do want a ~romantic partner~"? Ideally the person you date and/or spend your life with should be someone you consider a friend as well as a magical sex machine. Pretending the two can't overlap at all is staggeringly dumb.
Cuddleturkey, November 03, 2013, 05:15:24 pm

Only demisexuals have sex with people they like, duh.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: PurpleXVI on November 03, 2013, 08:50:23 pm
Ideally the person you date and/or spend your life with should be someone you consider a friend as well as a magical sex machine. Pretending the two can't overlap at all is staggeringly dumb.
Cuddleturkey, November 03, 2013, 05:15:24 pm

This is something that most people recognize after a while, that platonic enjoyment of each other and romantic enjoyment of each other should ideally go together, rather than being two completely separate realms.

But I honestly think that a lot of people start out not getting just because of how romance is represented in so damn many movies, books and other things. It's always some sort of MAGICAL SPECIAL THING that strikes RIGHT FROM THE MOMENT THEY SEE EACH OTHER and then all they do is ROMANTIC DATING THINGS which are usually completely different from what they do with their friends.

I'd be willing to bet most of these people are under or around 20-ish and not too socially experienced, who have weird ideas about romance, and women in general, because of how the two are represented in a lot of shitty media, and unless they get dragged into some sort of MRA weirdness where they consider women to be incomprehensible aliens, they'll probably figure it out eventually.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Horza on November 04, 2013, 05:19:42 am
The whole DATING MACHINE thing felt like the author of Moon People attempting to somehow quantify or explain human interaction.
PurpleXVI, November 03, 2013, 11:51:36 am

its unintentionally hilarious ineptitude started to remind me of iBrain, I kept waiting for the clown makeup to break out.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Sherlockian on November 04, 2013, 06:49:40 pm
Update: Kal-Elk PM'd me the story, and I want you to know that the prudishness in you just cheated you out of hearing the words "Strip Magic The Gathering Trivia" in context.
Lemon, November 03, 2013, 09:03:43 am

In my experience, drunk nerds can make a strip or drinking game out of almost any geeky pastime.


In other news, the "Fuck Offer" vaudeville bit made me really want Lemon and Boots(?) to do some Marx Brothers routines. It gave me some hardcore nostalgia for my formative comedy experiences.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Lemon on November 04, 2013, 07:13:08 pm
In other news, the "Fuck Offer" vaudeville bit made me really want Lemon and Boots(?) to do some Marx Brothers routines.
sherlockian, November 04, 2013, 06:49:40 pm
John, but I could go for watching Duck Soup again.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on November 04, 2013, 09:56:26 pm
In other news, the "Fuck Offer" vaudeville bit made me really want Lemon and Boots(?) to do some Marx Brothers routines.
sherlockian, November 04, 2013, 06:49:40 pm
John, but I could go for watching Duck Soup again.
Lemon, November 04, 2013, 07:13:08 pm
Fun fact: apparently at one live performance, Harpo and Chico switched roles and no one knew except (I think) Groucho's daughter.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: 🍆 on November 05, 2013, 01:00:01 am
Add It Up was the perfect song to open this ep with.

There seems to be this entire subgenre of internet batshittery that involves pathologizing normal human behavior. Demisexuals, love-shy... what ever happened to just being introverted? I'm fascinated and scared to see where it goes next.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on November 05, 2013, 11:01:54 am
Before I even start listening, I just want to say that Magic: the Gathering has gotten me laid before and it's actually a pretty fun game with a really awful playerbase reputation (only most of which is probably deserved). I barely play with people like the stereotypical Magic nerd at all! (And then only at tournament-type things). It is a silly hobby and anyone who doesn't acknowledge that should be soundly mocked, but it's also probably one of the more fun/deep games currently out there.

Also woooooo incel episode, this is going to be amazing.


e: i just enjoy this silly wizardpoker hobby and am defensive about it for no real good reason
kal-elk, November 02, 2013, 04:43:19 pm

Toast really nailed it in the closer to one episode forever ago.  Some Magic players are normal, functional people with a nerdy hobby, and other Magic players are incredibly fucked up disasters of human beings.

Having said that, I quit playing the game years ago when I couldn't find a player group that wasn't more of the latter than the former.  So I have a Theory about what the ratio between the two is in the Magic player-base.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: chai tea latte on November 05, 2013, 11:11:37 am

Having said that, I quit playing the game years ago when I couldn't find a player group that wasn't more of the latter than the former.  So I have a Theory about what the ratio between the two is in the Magic player-base.
Fizzlebang the Wise, November 05, 2013, 11:01:54 am

Yeah, it's pretty tragic. I still like the game enough to play despite the neckbeards, but I haven't played with strangers in a long time for just that reason.

e: do you recall which episode? I vaguely remember what you're talking about, but not entirely.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: zugunruhe on November 09, 2013, 04:28:08 pm
I remember, I met this guy on an internet forum devoted to learning foreign languages. He was really cool and nice and interesting, then after knowing him for like two years, we're talking about sex and he comes out to me as incel and linked me to basically all of the stuff that you guys were reading from. Holy merciful god I could have lived seven lives without ever having that bullcrap brought back to my attention. MONTRITH. YOU DID THIS TO ME.
Title: Episode 114: I Don't Make Eye Contact On The First Date
Post by: count_actuala on December 10, 2013, 04:16:47 pm
You have to appreciate how it's obvious to every person with life experience beyond middle school that everything these guys say is extrapolated from TV and movies.