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Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Lemon on October 11, 2018, 07:35:28 pm
(https://media.istockphoto.com/illustrations/smash-illustration-illustration-id825234666?k=6&m=825234666&s=612x612&w=0&h=DiGz-bzYjfYhwgiy1oHhJabtVP6x8qMds7_k-CAFaU8=) (https://thefpl.us/episode/290)
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on October 11, 2018, 07:42:49 pm
It was surreal to hear you start with a bit again.  Had me wondering which year it was.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Wrought on October 11, 2018, 08:04:33 pm
BIG ASS SHARK
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: KingKalamari on October 11, 2018, 08:56:22 pm
Early production footage from the gritty ALF reboot:

Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Sherman Tank on October 12, 2018, 12:01:37 am
I wonder why the story about the steampunk Victorian cat spoke to Nutshell so much?

EDIT: "beware of crime", "christians", "conservatives", "customer service purgatory", "fantasy", "finding jesus through fanfiction", "good titles wasted", "incurable porn disease", "literature", "misogyny", "nerds", "no plot no problem", "oppression fetish", "paranoia", "please give me money for my stupid idea", "puas", "sex", "spoilt victorian children", "sudden dyslexia", "x meets y and it bites"
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Boots Raingear on October 12, 2018, 12:14:06 pm
Heads up, this isn't showing up like normal in iOS Podcasts (and maybe other podcasting apps). It looks like there might be a problem with the date?
Darkly, October 12, 2018, 12:02:57 pm

Thanks for pointing that out. The feed is fixed, it should show in your podcatchers shortly.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Sherman Tank on October 12, 2018, 05:22:37 pm
If I ever get around to writing a detective novel I'm stealing the title That's No Way to Murder a Lady.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: KingKalamari on October 12, 2018, 06:16:32 pm
So, ALF-reboot jokes aside, this was kind of a weirdly topical episode for me: I've been working on a pitch document for a graphic novel series (mostly just for shits and giggles) so an entire episode of people trying to sell people on their writing feels very familiar. With that in mind, what really stands out to me in this and most of the other "LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE NOVEL I'M WRITING" episodes are how absolutely horrible most of these people are at writing loglines for their stories.

For anyone who's not familiar with the concept: The logline, often called the "elevator pitch" is essentially the heart and soul of the pitching process: It is the summary of what your book/movie/tv show/Darkwing Duck erotic fanfiction is all about, what makes it stand out from other stories and why anyone would want to read/watch it, all condensed into under 70 words. The length of the logline is super important because if most people aren't invested in a concept within a minute or so of reading they're going to get bored and wander off.

It all comes back to the philosophy "Nobody wants to read your story" and it's really readily demonstrated in these sort of vanity publishing endeavors. While these people may have spent a lot of time writing their magnum opus I, as the casual consumer, don't give a shit: There are more stories out there than any individual could possibly read in a lifetime so I'm not going to waste time on yours unless you give me a good reason and if the summary of your story doesn't get to that good reason quickly I'm going to assume there isn't one and leave.

So yeah, kind of a ramble on my part (ironically ignoring my own advice about getting to the point) but just something I got thinking about while I listened to the episode. For anyone creatively-inclined who wants to learn more about pitching their stories I found this post pretty interesting/insightful (http://The show is a prime-time, hour-long, sci-fi comedy thriller about a young boy who disappears from a quiet 1980s suburban town, and his mother, friends and the police chief, must confront terrifying alien forces in order to get him back.”)
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: eldritchhat on October 13, 2018, 12:08:18 pm
A steampunk cat for Nutshell

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232304884031029249/500716272967745536/new_doc_2018-10-13_13.06.08_1.jpg?width=349&height=603)
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Ragnarok Boobies on October 13, 2018, 12:36:05 pm
A steampunk cat for Nutshell

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232304884031029249/500716272967745536/new_doc_2018-10-13_13.06.08_1.jpg?width=349&height=603)
eldritchhat, October 13, 2018, 12:08:18 pm
Dr. Seuss’s Cat in the Copper Cog Hat wasn’t a very popular sequel.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: GirlKisser420 on October 14, 2018, 06:00:05 am
In the Alf reboot they made it so Alf wants to eat pussy. Bold new direction, can’t wait to watch
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: A Meat on October 14, 2018, 06:48:09 am
In the Alf reboot they made it so Alf wants to eat pussy. Bold new direction, can’t wait to watch
GirlKisser420, October 14, 2018, 06:00:05 am
Alf is a real alpha
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Ragnarok Boobies on October 14, 2018, 10:19:25 am
In the Alf reboot they made it so Alf wants to eat pussy. Bold new direction, can’t wait to watch
GirlKisser420, October 14, 2018, 06:00:05 am
Alf is a real alpha
A Meat, October 14, 2018, 06:48:09 am
Alf and Alfalfa go bar-hopping
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: chai tea latte on October 14, 2018, 10:58:26 am
In the Alf reboot they made it so Alf wants to eat pussy. Bold new direction, can’t wait to watch
GirlKisser420, October 14, 2018, 06:00:05 am

(solemnly resets the 'it has been this many days since someone said Alf eats pussy' sign, which has never counted higher than 2)
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Knitting Machine on October 14, 2018, 10:05:03 pm
I won't lie I am slightly disappointed that no one has brought up the 90s Alf made for TV movie
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Sherman Tank on October 20, 2018, 10:00:35 pm
I read through the preview of Big Ass Shark on the smashwords website and it was disappointingly not-badly written. All the sentences were grammatical and it even had a slightly clever twist where the first person to encounter the titular big ass shark wasn't a character created just to get eaten.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: A Meat on October 21, 2018, 02:14:31 am
I read through the preview of Big Ass Shark on the smashwords website and it was disappointingly not-badly written. All the sentences were grammatical and it even had a slightly clever twist where the first person to encounter the titular big ass shark wasn't a character created just to get eaten.
60 Minutes Sherman Tank Control, October 20, 2018, 10:00:35 pm
Did the shark have a big ass as promised?
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Muffinator on October 21, 2018, 06:32:59 pm
I'd feel guilty posting it because he's a decent dude, but a friend recently posted a huge rant on social media about how he was fed up with BIG PUBLISHING who won't accept his manuscripts and wouldn't pay enough for them anyway – his solution to all this was to exclusively publish through Smashwords.

I dunno how it's going for him and honestly I'm a little scared to check.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: montrith on November 10, 2018, 09:50:22 am
I can't believe nobody has called Nutshell out on obviously plugging her own book.

Speaking of ALF, I'm more than happy to answer any questions the producers might have in my capacity as the only person to still own a copy of ALF: The Novel.
Title: 290: Smashed Words
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 11, 2018, 01:43:56 am
I can't believe nobody has called Nutshell out on obviously plugging her own book.

Speaking of ALF, I'm more than happy to answer any questions the producers might have in my capacity as the only person to still own a copy of ALF: The Novel.
montrith, November 10, 2018, 09:50:22 am

I'm not a producer, but does J.W. Friedman know that Alf: The Novel exists?