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Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Lemon on November 08, 2015, 04:18:13 pm
(http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1300/4672038059_124717be56_n.jpg)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 08, 2015, 04:22:24 pm
John Toast is back! Yay!

Man, this one gets disgusting right out of the gate.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Mu. on November 08, 2015, 06:37:35 pm
All of these remind me of Misery.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: KingKalamari on November 08, 2015, 07:23:33 pm
And then the talent agent says: "That's one hell of an act, what do you call it?"
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 08, 2015, 08:06:26 pm
And then the talent agent says: "That's one hell of an act, what do you call it?"
KingKalamari, November 08, 2015, 07:23:33 pm

Tumblr!
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 08, 2015, 08:58:02 pm
My fav for this episode was Genesis P Orridge, so most of this was pretty in character
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: positive stress on November 08, 2015, 09:34:21 pm
This is one of my favorite episodes in a while. Nothing like a gross fetish episode on a Sunday night.

Also, as a tumblr, I have to point out the "submission" tag is a stupid thing the website does. If a post is submitted to a blog, tagging it with anything automatically adds the tag "submission" to the post. One billion dollars
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Positronic on November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 08, 2015, 09:49:32 pm
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Positronic, November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
They're among us. Trust no one.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Cyberventurer on November 08, 2015, 09:56:42 pm
I went through the entire episode thinking every story opened up with "imagine your fae", so I was thinking it was a bunch of stories revolving around a schizophrenic fairy guardian taking on the personality of whatever you wanted.  That actually made it more interesting in my head.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: NutshellGulag on November 09, 2015, 12:28:44 am
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Positronic, November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
They're among us. Trust no one.
AgentCoop, November 08, 2015, 09:49:32 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: A Meat on November 09, 2015, 01:16:51 am
I might have been imagining this wrong, but instead of some sort of tentacle monster in the wildlife preservation story, I was just imagining it being a tapeworm and someone being super turned on from having a tapeworm crawl inside them and it made it infinitely more disturbing.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on November 09, 2015, 01:18:42 am
They're among us. Trust no one.
AgentCoop, November 08, 2015, 09:49:32 pm

It's probably Lemon, throwing us off the trail.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 09, 2015, 01:26:53 am
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Positronic, November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
They're among us. Trust no one.
AgentCoop, November 08, 2015, 09:49:32 pm

Someone get Revolver Isfahan in here.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Knitting Machine on November 09, 2015, 08:08:53 am
I regret deciding to listen to this while eating peanut butter.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 09, 2015, 08:27:59 am
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Positronic, November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
They're among us. Trust no one.
AgentCoop, November 08, 2015, 09:49:32 pm

Someone get Revolver Isfahan in here.
Sherman Tank, November 09, 2015, 01:26:53 am
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/7fed122d1aec9847299d17cb8d60e070/tumblr_inline_nwjs9c9sfh1r0hqsq_540.jpg)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: LINDA on November 09, 2015, 12:22:15 pm
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/78/12/76/7812764487214bf93072601d75db6fdd.jpg)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: landwailord on November 09, 2015, 02:49:33 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/11a1b176623b38103f8f9d2acc90a85f.png)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: CaptainLaserPants on November 09, 2015, 03:55:48 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/11a1b176623b38103f8f9d2acc90a85f.png)
landwailord, November 09, 2015, 02:49:33 pm

We've reached peak the F Plus singularity. Or something.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: McMillan and Waifu on November 09, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
I feel like imaginensfwoah is like The Aleph but only for gross fanfic premises - you look into it and see every possible fictional character doing every possible fetish act, except somehow 90% of it is about gastrointestinal trouble.

Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 09, 2015, 04:44:50 pm
I feel like imaginensfwoah is like The Aleph but only for gross fanfic premises - you look into it and see every possible fictional character doing every possible fetish act, except somehow 90% of it is about gastrointestinal trouble.
McMillan and Waifu, November 09, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
Peter Azfuente sits with his tumblr in front of a firing squad. In his last moments he closes his eyes. He prays to god "Lord! Please allow me to finish my life work." He opens his eyes. He is frozen in time. He cannot move, except to type. His fingers clack across the keys. "Imagine your fav..." He pauses. "Imagine your fav is on vacation in..." No, this isn't right. He taps the backspace key. It seems to him that he repeats this action for an eternity, drawing up a premise. Sometimes he deletes his scribblings due to a misplaced pronoun. Sometimes there's not enough scat. Backspace. Backspace. Backspace. Eventually he sighs. He looks at his text post, finally satisfied. "Thank you," he seems to say. A gun goes off.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Isfahan on November 09, 2015, 04:51:07 pm
Someone get Revolver Isfahan in here.
Sherman Tank, November 09, 2015, 01:26:53 am

My vocal-cord parasites would prevent me from even speaking those posts, they care about me that much.

For this situation, we'll need a hot-wire-in-the-blood testing scene à la The Thing.

ETA: At least this person didn't try the ol' Puppetmaster Defense and be all "hahahaha thanks for the views, suckers!"
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on November 09, 2015, 05:18:54 pm
I should not have listened to this episode with an already upset stomach.  I think it made me pretty much a subject of this episode.
Imagine your fave listening to this episode. It makes their queasy stomach gurgle uncontrollably. They cry, and this is super hot for some reason.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: McMillan and Waifu on November 09, 2015, 05:40:17 pm
I feel like imaginensfwoah is like The Aleph but only for gross fanfic premises - you look into it and see every possible fictional character doing every possible fetish act, except somehow 90% of it is about gastrointestinal trouble.
McMillan and Waifu, November 09, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
Peter Azfuente sits with his tumblr in front of a firing squad. In his last moments he closes his eyes. He prays to god "Lord! Please allow me to finish my life work." He opens his eyes. He is frozen in time. He cannot move, except to type. His fingers clack across the keys. "Imagine your fav..." He pauses. "Imagine your fav is on vacation in..." No, this isn't right. He taps the backspace key. It seems to him that he repeats this action for an eternity, drawing up a premise. Sometimes he deletes his scribblings due to a misplaced pronoun. Sometimes there's not enough scat. Backspace. Backspace. Backspace. Eventually he sighs. He looks at his text post, finally satisfied. "Thank you," he seems to say. A gun goes off.
AgentCoop, November 09, 2015, 04:44:50 pm

The universe (which others call the Library) is composed of an indefinite and perhaps infinite number of hexagonal galleries, with vast air shafts between, surrounded by very low railings. The distribution of the galleries is invariable. Twenty shelves, five long shelves per side, cover all the sides except two; their height, which is the distance from floor to ceiling, scarcely exceeds that of a normal bookcase. Each shelf contains thirty-five books of uniform format; each book is of four hundred and ten pages; each page, of forty lines, each line, of some eighty letters which are black in color. They are all about your fav eating tacos and having terrible diarrhea.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: goombapolice on November 09, 2015, 06:36:05 pm
Why are you guys so weirded out that that person is elated to be on Fplus?

Somebody paid attention to them holy shit
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 09, 2015, 08:13:56 pm
Why are you guys so weirded out that that person is elated to be on Fplus?

Somebody paid attention to them holy shit
goombapolice, November 09, 2015, 06:36:05 pm

To be fair, the implications from this are way more depressing,
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Positronic on November 09, 2015, 08:48:06 pm
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2vn5pqt.png)
(Does this need a nsfw tag? Or a nsfWOAH tag?)

I'm just glad that the blog creator seemed pretty chill with the episode, rather than turning it into a Monster Girl Quest Wiki comment section. My guess is that since the submissions aren't tied to any users and since the reblogs aren't visible, no one really gets hurt from it unless you're dedicated to snooping around tumblr.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Isfahan on November 09, 2015, 10:36:15 pm
Calling it: someone will, in the comments section, take ownership of one of the prompts read and then undergo a misguided and un-self-aware attempt to defend the concept of "your fave" prompts in general.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 09, 2015, 10:56:34 pm
Calling it: someone will, in the comments section, take ownership of one of the prompts read and then undergo a misguided and un-self-aware attempt to defend the concept of "your fave" prompts in general.
Isfahan, November 09, 2015, 10:36:15 pm
It looks like we already have a confirmed browser of the site, but they have neither been reprimanded nor issued a defense.

E: Someone is trying to start shit
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Spacebat on November 10, 2015, 02:35:30 am
Holy shit. (http://imaginensfwoah.tumblr.com/post/132838187724/imagine-a-podcast-made-an-episode-of-reading-of) That is... not the reaction I expected.
Positronic, November 08, 2015, 09:34:47 pm
I WAS WONDERING HOW THE EPISODE GOT 30 COMMENTS IN ONE DAY
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Adam Bozarth on November 10, 2015, 03:56:29 am
Sometimes you gaze into the abyss, and the abyss is a huge fan.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Gyro on November 10, 2015, 07:54:00 am
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2vn5pqt.png)
(Does this need a nsfw tag? Or a nsfWOAH tag?)
Positronic, November 09, 2015, 08:48:06 pm

Damn, I wish I could reassign my bulb. You are a god and I will now worship you.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Ambious on November 10, 2015, 03:12:30 pm
Of all the tumblr speak I've run into, "fave" must be one of those I hate the most.

ETA: Lemon, how about a "Prime Directive Breach" tag? Has this happened before?
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: goombapolice on November 10, 2015, 07:48:40 pm
Woooo pronoun fight in the comments what fun
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 10, 2015, 09:17:07 pm
Woooo pronoun fight in the comments what fun
goombapolice, November 10, 2015, 07:48:40 pm

Hey, if they don't get self-righteous on the internet about trivial shit they don't get to pat themselves on the back about how progressive and sensitive and awesome they are.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: positive stress on November 11, 2015, 01:03:50 am
Woooo pronoun fight in the comments what fun
goombapolice, November 10, 2015, 07:48:40 pm

Hey, if they don't get self-righteous on the internet about trivial shit they don't get to pat themselves on the back about how progressive and sensitive and awesome they are.
Sherman Tank, November 10, 2015, 09:17:07 pm

That's a shitty attitude IMO. Maybe it's trivial to you but it isn't to everyone. I liked this episode but that joke left a bad taste in my mouth
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherlockian on November 11, 2015, 03:25:44 am
ETA: Lemon, how about a "Prime Directive Breach" tag? Has this happened before?
Ambious, November 10, 2015, 03:12:30 pm

I don't think it's a Prime Directive Breach. It's possible that someone who follows the blog and also likes the F+ let the admin know.

And, IIRC, other exhibits have found out about episodes before in one way or another.

Woooo pronoun fight in the comments what fun
goombapolice, November 10, 2015, 07:48:40 pm

Hey, if they don't get self-righteous on the internet about trivial shit they don't get to pat themselves on the back about how progressive and sensitive and awesome they are.
Sherman Tank, November 10, 2015, 09:17:07 pm

That's a shitty attitude IMO. Maybe it's trivial to you but it isn't to everyone. I liked this episode but that joke left a bad taste in my mouth
fruithag, November 11, 2015, 01:03:50 am

Yeah, same.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on November 11, 2015, 05:39:00 am
It's amazing that it took me this long but this is it. This is the episode that made me no longer like people.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on November 11, 2015, 11:45:44 am
Wasn't that joke obviously about people on tumblr who make up genders just because that makes them feel special? Calling that transphobic is like saying that it's racist to make fun of rich, suburban white guys who act like Tupac, imo.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: chai tea latte on November 11, 2015, 12:06:14 pm
Wasn't that joke obviously about people on tumblr who make up genders just because that makes them feel special? Calling that transphobic is like saying that it's racist to make fun of rich, suburban white guys who act like Tupac, imo.
FattyBoBatty, November 11, 2015, 11:45:44 am
these identities are often exploratory and transitive spaces for young queers coming to terms with themselves so it's more the level of gleeful malice involved in the comment imo. Many trans activists agree that the appropriate response to someone correcting you on a misidentified gender/pronoun set is to accept at face value the things you're being told. Whether or not I personally think someone identifying as [atypical gender identity] is a valid or appropriate identity, it isn't my place to enforce that for others. Obviously there's a line, and some identities are in fact harmful or false pretenses, and someone, somewhere should be concerned about it, but I don't have to if it isn't important to me. Lemon's push back against third-person singular 'they' also indicates either a lack of familiarity with discourse around trans inclusivity or i guess linguistic (and gender) prescriptivism?

The joke made me very uncomfortable because often the F Plus has approached these niche SJ-ancillary spaces from a place of understanding and respect and it implied that this respect and understanding was conditional on the acceptability of a trans person's non-binary gender.
 (http://truscum)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Lemon on November 11, 2015, 02:22:53 pm
Alright, I was leaving it alone in the comments, but now that it's made it's way onto ballp.it, let's start a brief and non-reductive dialogue1 about this:

Inre: "I'll call you by the pronoun you were born as", I stand by that joke. I still think it's funny. The premise is, in response to a piece of content that was particularly atrocious and with the treatment of all of Tumblr as a single entity responsible for that bit of content, I'm going to issue the very worst punishment I can think of, which is to use that one person's birth pronoun. Other jokes I've done can be at times unnecessarily tasteless or aggressive, this one I'm still happy with.

The negative reaction to this seems, to me, to imply that the statement being made is that people using pronouns other than the one they were born as is me making a statement that this sort of behavior is silly or bad, or that it comes from a position of thinking trans* people are "less than", which is wrong in a way that doesn't need to get explained here.

There's also the connotation that this joke minimizes the struggle of trans* people by saying it could just get revoked if they do something wrong. Which, yeah, that's exactly why I'm happy with the joke. Does a person calling another person the wrong gender pronoun invalidate the gender identity that person had previously discovered for themselves? Jesus, it shouldn't! That's a whole lot of power to imbue on another person.

What I'm saying is, if you think a comment in the current episode identifies me as transphobic, that's incorrect. If you think one or more of the jokes is in itself transphobic, I disagree on that point.

I will back off on the "they" argument however, since I realize that what I'd like is the perfect operational pronoun that doesn't exist, and "they" is, while not perfect, more correct and agreed-upon than anything else and therefore it's fine.

1: Come on internet, we can do this.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherlockian on November 11, 2015, 05:56:25 pm
nre: "I'll call you by the pronoun you were born as", I stand by that joke. I still think it's funny. The premise is, in response to a piece of content that was particularly atrocious and with the treatment of all of Tumblr as a single entity responsible for that bit of content, I'm going to issue the very worst punishment I can think of, which is to use that one person's birth pronoun. Other jokes I've done can be at times unnecessarily tasteless or aggressive, this one I'm still happy with.
Lemon, November 11, 2015, 02:22:53 pm

... Not to get personal, but that "joke" was the exact same thing my parents say to invalidate my gender.

Maybe you're happy with it, but I physically flinched when it was said. I knew and know what the foundation of the joke was. That doesn't stop it from being something that's been literally said to me (and other trans friends) before and therefore not just a "tasteless" joke, but a hurtful one.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Glitterbomber on November 11, 2015, 10:12:05 pm
Yea that felt like a joke that was 100% meant without malice or anything, but still had a lot of baggage for people that actually, ya know, have to explain to people constantly that no they'd like to be called by the right pronoun. The problem is despite how it feels on the internet at times, like 90% are just perfectly normal people and not 'uh excuse me I identify as bunkin please use bunself to address me'. Like, those people are stupid as shit, but functionally speaking they might as well not actually exist except online, but people who do have legitimate problems getting their gender identity recognized do exist in the real world.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Lemon on November 11, 2015, 11:04:29 pm
So it's weird that an episode about super duper gross fanfiction led us here, huh? Sometimes I expect backlash and it doesn't happen. This one came as a surprise.

Though I will say I've got a little bit better understanding of where it comes from. When you're coming from a place where you're trying to figure out your own identity and people around you are hesitant to adjust to that identity, it's natural that a person will end up being a little raw and jokes that come close to the subject cut a little deeper than they probably should. I'm getting that, and I'd also recognize that "just don't be so fucking sensitive" is as unhelpful as "Well just stop being depressed if you don't wanna be." I get that, I've got a clearer picture of the nerve I struck.

But these kinds of issues stem from Identity Politics, which is personal by definition, and that makes it sensitive, undefinable, and largely irrelevant.The struggles a person has in one's own life are their own crosses to bear. Other people should respect that to a certain extent, but respect is not the same as caring. The idea of everyone on Tumblr broadcasting their own unique little pronoun that they chose for themselves is silly, and goes beyond the bounds of what it means to be a person in a world with 7 billion more of you.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: junior associate faguar on November 13, 2015, 01:15:12 am
I'm a transwoman and I find the way that so many other trans people act so oversensitive and tumblry deeply distressing, can you please stop? It makes me literally flinch. If you hear someone saying a joke and it makes you flinch, you need therapy and treatment, not for everyone to change the world for you.

 I eagerly await hearing about my internalized transphobia or how I'm clearly faking.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Adam Bozarth on November 13, 2015, 05:09:07 pm
I'm just offended as a tumblr user.

It's where I browse the dank memes.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Ambious on November 13, 2015, 07:49:29 pm
I'm just offended as a tumblr user.
Adam Bozarth, November 13, 2015, 05:09:07 pm

That's redundant.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Cleretic on November 13, 2015, 09:17:07 pm
I'm just offended as a tumblr user.

It's where I browse the dank memes.
Adam Bozarth, November 13, 2015, 05:09:07 pm
Where the hell else am I gonna follow Terrible Real Estate Photos and Clients from Hell?
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Dawnswalker on November 13, 2015, 09:35:23 pm
[freakout]HAPPY FIRST DICKNIPPLVERSARY THE F PLUS!![freakout]
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Knitting Machine on November 13, 2015, 10:00:57 pm
[freakout]HAPPY FIRST DICKNIPPLVERSARY THE F PLUS!![freakout]
Dawnswalker, November 13, 2015, 09:35:23 pm

Not a shitting dicknipple, doesn't count.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Isfahan on November 13, 2015, 10:25:52 pm
baby steps
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: EYE OF ZA on November 13, 2015, 11:06:17 pm
It was really more of a metaphorical dicknipple imo but i'm not an expert on dicknipple monster cockysis
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on November 14, 2015, 12:32:22 am
Man, I was hoping my doc would be the first dicknipple.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: QueenSyreen on November 14, 2015, 12:48:49 am
I can't do it.

I tried to listen to this twice, and got a grand total of like, eight minutes in. Nope. Sorry. Can't do it.

There is a very small pile of episodes I cannot listen to. Welcome to that pile, episode 193.

If there's a five minutes of hilarity I just have to listen to in the middle of the episode, time stamps would be acknowledged.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Isfahan on November 14, 2015, 10:23:40 am
The poop part's only in the beginning. It was hard for me too. It's not throughout the whole episode, however.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Nikaer Drekin on November 14, 2015, 10:39:36 am
Just know that somewhere in the middle we get the triumphant return of Paula BunnyBread Deen. If that doesn't keep you going I'm not sure what will.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Cyberventurer on November 14, 2015, 01:58:37 pm
dicknipple monster cockysis
EYE OF ZA, November 13, 2015, 11:06:17 pm
I feel that this is the apex of the monster cock joke.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherlockian on November 14, 2015, 06:46:17 pm
I eagerly await hearing about my internalized transphobia or how I'm clearly faking.
journeyman faguar, November 13, 2015, 01:15:12 am

It's like rape jokes or black jokes-- some sexual assault victims or black people are fine with them. That doesn't actually make it not hurtful to many people.

Just know that somewhere in the middle we get the triumphant return of Paula BunnyBread Deen. If that doesn't keep you going I'm not sure what will.
Nikaer Drekin, November 14, 2015, 10:39:36 am

I will forever love PaulaBread Deen. It makes me want to put together another recipe episode every time.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: junior associate faguar on November 15, 2015, 12:52:39 am
I eagerly await hearing about my internalized transphobia or how I'm clearly faking.
journeyman faguar, November 13, 2015, 01:15:12 am

It's like rape jokes or black jokes-- some sexual assault victims or black people are fine with them. That doesn't actually make it not hurtful to many people.
Sherlockian, November 14, 2015, 06:46:17 pm

That's a point, but my real point was more that I don't think that comedy needs to be smoothed down to remove anything that might make someone feel bad, at least if it's not malicious. Basically, copy in Carlin's routine about rape jokes here.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: chai tea latte on November 15, 2015, 01:12:24 am
I eagerly await hearing about my internalized transphobia or how I'm clearly faking.
journeyman faguar, November 13, 2015, 01:15:12 am

It's like rape jokes or black jokes-- some sexual assault victims or black people are fine with them. That doesn't actually make it not hurtful to many people.
Sherlockian, November 14, 2015, 06:46:17 pm

That's a point, but my real point was more that I don't think that comedy needs to be smoothed down to remove anything that might make someone feel bad, at least if it's not malicious. Basically, copy in Carlin's routine about rape jokes here.
journeyman faguar, November 15, 2015, 12:52:39 am
i don't know that this is going to be a productive discussion but regardless of your personal feelings re: racist or rape-related jokes, people who don't like them probably aren't going to like them because you explain why they're funny. You don't think comedy needs to be "smoothed down" but other people are okay with a smaller subset of still quite funny jokes. You don't actually need the wisecrack about how the Eskimo can't rape the she-Eskimo because her leggings are frozen.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: junior associate faguar on November 15, 2015, 01:31:55 am
Yeah, I honestly don't care all that much and don't have much to add other than "I found it funny and don't particularly like people get offended by stuff when it's not meant as a serious thing" written out longer and longer. I'm not going to change anyone's opinion, and I'm not really gonna change my opinion.

Edit: Really, I just don't like when people make blanket statements, talking about how something is "offensive to trans people" instead of "offensive to me as a trans person" or something else where you don't end up speaking for a whole group of people.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherlockian on November 15, 2015, 04:54:47 am
Edit: Really, I just don't like when people make blanket statements, talking about how something is "offensive to trans people" instead of "offensive to me as a trans person" or something else where you don't end up speaking for a whole group of people.
journeyman faguar, November 15, 2015, 01:31:55 am

GTFO. You specifically made fun of me for being clear that it had upset me as a specific trans person. You insinuated that I need therapy for commenting that a phrase which had been actively used to inflict pain on me had been used as a joke. And then you generalized about how many trans people are ~tumblrized~ and ~oversensitive~. So apparently I (and the other people who pointed that it was hurtful) can't win. Either we say that it hurt us in particular and be dismissed as oversensitive or we say it's hurtful to trans people in general and be told we're generalizing.

Urgh. I liked the episode in general. There was the one joke that bugged me and apparently bugged other people too. Shock and horror, people sometimes don't agree on what constitutes good humor.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: goombapolice on November 15, 2015, 06:41:14 pm
Just listened to this one again. It's fantastic.

The "drive through genitalia" part was god damn hilarious
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Spacebat on November 18, 2015, 11:23:10 am
This might be the only episode I never listen to twice.

I don't think I can stand to imagine Seth Rogen shitting himself again.

Edit: Never mind, I just imagined Adam Bozarth shitting himself instead.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: goombapolice on November 18, 2015, 03:08:44 pm
Ever think you would get here, Adam?
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Runic on November 18, 2015, 04:54:31 pm
Eugene V. Debs noooo :(
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on November 18, 2015, 04:58:07 pm
Eugene V. Debs noooo :(
Runic, November 18, 2015, 04:54:31 pm
Let the people everywhere take heart of hope, for the fave is bending, the bad mexican food is passing, and joy cometh with the morning
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 18, 2015, 09:08:45 pm
I couldn't picture Bernard Quatermass or Dr. Who as portrayed by Patrick Troughton doing any of the shit from this episode.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on November 18, 2015, 10:21:19 pm
I couldn't picture Bernard Quatermass or Dr. Who as portrayed by Patrick Troughton doing any of the shit from this episode.
Sherman Tank, November 18, 2015, 09:08:45 pm

Clearly you just need to favor a younger, hotter Doctor. That way it'd all fall into place.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on November 18, 2015, 10:32:54 pm
I swear I am going to start my own tumblr and submit something to imaginensfwoah along the lines of "imagine your favorite Time Lord never being a sex symbol for maladjusted nerds". Because I remember when that was the case, and I really miss those days.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on November 18, 2015, 11:59:23 pm
I swear I am going to start my own tumblr and submit something to imaginensfwoah along the lines of "imagine your favorite Time Lord never being a sex symbol for maladjusted nerds". Because I remember when that was the case, and I really miss those days.
Sherman Tank, November 18, 2015, 10:32:54 pm

What if my favorite Time Lord is Romana? Especially Lala Ward Romana? (To be fair they do seem to be moving away from that with Capaldi, it's just that a lot of new-school fans don't seem to have noticed. Or are into weird-looking Scottish sextegenarians. Or both.)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Chiang Kai-Shrek on November 19, 2015, 01:58:55 am
I couldn't picture Bernard Quatermass or Dr. Who as portrayed by Patrick Troughton doing any of the shit from this episode.
Sherman Tank, November 18, 2015, 09:08:45 pm
Tom Baker, on the other hand....

I swear I am going to start my own tumblr and submit something to imaginensfwoah along the lines of "imagine your favorite Time Lord never being a sex symbol for maladjusted nerds". Because I remember when that was the case, and I really miss those days.
Sherman Tank, November 18, 2015, 10:32:54 pm
If you never got tingly feelings about Jon Pertwee then I don't know what to say to you.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: LINDA on April 24, 2016, 05:33:59 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u7D6U4AAX0B7.jpg:large)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u85bU8AAKOav.jpg:large)

(!!!)
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Spacebat on April 24, 2016, 06:24:46 pm
"New York Times bestselling author"  means about as much as "This book has words in it" to me now.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Bodark on April 24, 2016, 06:31:51 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u7D6U4AAX0B7.jpg:large)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u85bU8AAKOav.jpg:large)

(!!!)
LINDA, April 24, 2016, 05:33:59 pm

There is nothing I don't hate about this.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Sherman Tank on April 24, 2016, 06:35:10 pm
I dunno, I like the idea of joyriding around Saints Row-style with Jennifer Lawrence.
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: dractivisionary on May 26, 2016, 01:26:49 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u7D6U4AAX0B7.jpg:large)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u85bU8AAKOav.jpg:large)

(!!!)
LINDA, April 24, 2016, 05:33:59 pm
HELL YEAH I'D HELP PRESIDENT KANYE WEST!
Title: 193: The Thing You Like In Pain
Post by: Nikaer Drekin on May 26, 2016, 04:00:24 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u7D6U4AAX0B7.jpg:large)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1u85bU8AAKOav.jpg:large)

(!!!)
LINDA, April 24, 2016, 05:33:59 pm
HELL YEAH I'D HELP PRESIDENT KANYE WEST!
dractivisionary, May 26, 2016, 01:26:49 pm

I just noticed "LET YOUR IMAGINATION KNOW NO BOUNDS" at the bottom. Yeah, run wild! Imagine yourself in these exact scenarios we've written out for you!