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with Boots Raingear Adam Bozarth Kumquatxop Portaxx and Lemon
content for this episode was compiled by Montrith
edited by Lemon.
On this podcast, we've covered a lot of people who claim that imaginary things are real, BUT THIS... IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT! We're looking at the universe of "Djinn", genie having people who have either conjured or purchased a noble thousands-year old spirit that they make do the dishes. Then things get weird after that. This week, The Thief of Baghdad is just looking for a nice cuddle.
MUSIC USED:
Skee-Lo - I Wish
16 Horsepower - Fire Spirit (Gun Club cover)
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But they died in the Crusades
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Will a Djinn help me improve my sound system's audio quality?
Can I trap the Djinn in my cables or do I have to use the Shakti Stone?
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Jesus Christ you guys can't pronounce Arabic words
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I'm disappointed you missed an opportunity to use Snoop Doggy Dogg's popular hip hop song Djinn and Juice in this episode.
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I'm disappointed you missed an opportunity to use Snoop Doggy Dogg's popular hip hop song Djinn and Juice in this episode.
Old_Zircon, April 11, 2015, 06:35:50 pm
I'm also disappointed in myself for not spelling it "Djuice"
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I'm disappointed you missed an opportunity to use Snoop Doggy Dogg's popular hip hop song Djinn and Juice in this episode.
Old_Zircon, April 11, 2015, 06:35:50 pm
I don't know if I'm disappointed or glad that the Ridiculists have Paarthurnax at the ready but Ba Sing Se is a complete mystery
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I'm disappointed you missed an opportunity to use Snoop Doggy Dogg's popular hip hop song Djinn and Juice in this episode.
Old_Zircon, April 11, 2015, 06:35:50 pm
I've got my mind on my marid and my marid on my mind
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Jesus Christ you guys can't pronounce Arabic words
Smoking Crow, April 11, 2015, 05:40:31 pm
Bozarth made an admirable effort trying to pronounce the different kinds of angels in Hebrew in his reader intro.
Also, how did nobody mention American Gods in the episodes, that's a book where a Djinni has sex with a human.
Also, it's probably worth searching ebay for djinn, it's pretty good, I mean I just found this:
As one knows the illuminati have billions they own and rule parts of the world this is a secret sociality that has been around the world for centuries these are high order do you believe in djinn then you must know this djinn is from one of the grand masters of this sociality on who is wealth one in power. And this djinn has move that person up. I will not go into names for those names are kept secret this djinn can seek out power put you in the right place at the right time. Move you to status that will rock your world. Never to want never to be in debt never to go without love money have the luck with a touch of Midas anything you do or want is yours. Secret sociality’s all know how to work energies to their favor nice isn’t it when you only know up not down know who you enemies are know who to trust. Know where to turn to get where you want in life. Get that soul mate love. This is one the most powerful djinns that I have to offer from the illuminati I now have 5 from 5 masters these are very powerful men who have done more then most people in their life time. Have raised rakes and are wealthy beyond belief now wouldn’t life be sweeter if we had the way to move energies to fulfill our dreams had all we ever wanted. Can you image what your life would be like to wake in the morning and really be happy knowing you can go and do anything you want with the right combination of energies with the right spirit you can have it all this is the secret djinn of the illuminati may life now be easy and may every dream wish desire hopes and goal be yours.it bares no evil or negative energies. The power of this ring can bring wealth riches he can influence vibration to bring forth your wishes he is a wish grantor he will bring health love and luck in all areas of ones life.Quote from
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Jesus Christ you guys can't pronounce Arabic words
Smoking Crow, April 11, 2015, 05:40:31 pm
Hey, could have been worse! Lemon cut out all the times I tried to list off the "meditative" iDoser drug names!
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I can't figure out if this is a step up or down from stuff like multiples and Lokiwives.
On one hand, they've probably made the best choice of stupid bullshit to believe way too much in. If otherkin or multiples were real and you were one, you now have either an unsolvable disorder or something that really looks like one. Godspouses don't exactly gravitate to good partners, so if they are real and you are one, you've entered into a terrible relationship with someone who you cannot escape from. But if djinn are real, and you have one? You've got basically a willing slave, and one that can grant you fantastic wishes. And since these djinn don't appear to be jerks that twist wishes, you're only ever coming out ahead on this one. Djinn-buddies won the Imaginary Friend Lottery.
On the other hand, this makes the question of 'okay, what really happened' that much more depressing. I remember at one point hearing someone (it must have been on Something Awful) theorizing that the super-religious, praying for everything types must have terrible self-esteem, and while I don't think he's necessarily right about them, his logic applies perfectly to these guys. There's a lot of satisfaction in the community, so clearly they're getting what they're wishing for, but realistically that only makes sense if they're wishing for attainable things. They've probably been wishing for things that are in their power: passing tests, getting raises/promotions, maybe love or friendship, stuff like that. You can pray, wish and hope all you want for those sorts of things, but ultimately it comes down to your own action and worth; you, in some way, have to earn it. People like this seem to remove all of their own agency for their successes, they're pinning something great that they ultimately did on something intangible rather than saying 'hey, you know what, I did good'. If all that's true, at least the religious guys have more to grab on to, these guys are pouring their everything into an overpriced rock they bought online. That woman who lost her djinn's stone seemed desperate, it read like someone's plea to get their spouse not to leave.
So yeah, it's kind of weird. It's a far more appealing thing to believe in, but they seem to be kind of worse for believing in it.
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The reason I think djinn people are the dumbest of the lot: Being otherkin is free, while a "real djinn" can cost you anything from 1 to 1000 dollars.
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I was kind of expecting another retread of Otherkin stuff, but I was pleasantly surprised that this turned out more like the pyramid hat episode. I was also pleasantly surprised by the philosophical stance on "charging" for things that the djinn-sellers took. Reminded me of the stance that many tech companies take on "owning" their products.
I'm disappointed you missed an opportunity to use Snoop Doggy Dogg's popular hip hop song Djinn and Juice in this episode.
Old_Zircon, April 11, 2015, 06:35:50 pm
I'm more disappointed that they didn't use "You Ain't Never Had a Friend Like Me", but maybe that was too obvious.
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Indotalisman.com : money :: Internet asexuals : sexuality. That is my main observation on this episode, apart from "y'all need
Jesus accent coaches."
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My accent coach is Sam Adams
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I was kind of expecting another retread of Otherkin stuff, but I was pleasantly surprised that this turned out more like the pyramid hat episode. I was also pleasantly surprised by the philosophical stance on "charging" for things that the djinn-sellers took. Reminded me of the stance that many tech companies take on "owning" their products.
BomberJacket, April 12, 2015, 11:01:17 am
As someone who has spent a lot of time with pagans the whole "we're not charging for this item" pops up a lot. Charging or items/spellwork/whatever is considered bad ju-ju, so they have to come up with an excuse to be paid for it.
Also I don't really know a lot about Djinns, but I'm pretty sure in 1001 Arabian Nights they were nothing but murderous assholes. Don't these people know that?
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I was kind of expecting another retread of Otherkin stuff, but I was pleasantly surprised that this turned out more like the pyramid hat episode. I was also pleasantly surprised by the philosophical stance on "charging" for things that the djinn-sellers took. Reminded me of the stance that many tech companies take on "owning" their products.
BomberJacket, April 12, 2015, 11:01:17 am
As someone who has spent a lot of time with pagans the whole "we're not charging for this item" pops up a lot. Charging or items/spellwork/whatever is considered bad ju-ju, so they have to come up with an excuse to be paid for it.
Also I don't really know a lot about Djinns, but I'm pretty sure in 1001 Arabian Nights they were nothing but murderous assholes. Don't these people know that?
KnitOneKillTwo, April 13, 2015, 07:30:58 am
If I recall correctly in Islamic theology Satan is supposedly a jinni who refused to bow down to Adam and was cast out of heaven, and now he spends all his time trying to make humans sin to prove that he was right not to bow before them.
Or something along those lines, I don't really know too much about Islamic theology
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I was kind of expecting another retread of Otherkin stuff, but I was pleasantly surprised that this turned out more like the pyramid hat episode. I was also pleasantly surprised by the philosophical stance on "charging" for things that the djinn-sellers took. Reminded me of the stance that many tech companies take on "owning" their products.
BomberJacket, April 12, 2015, 11:01:17 am
As someone who has spent a lot of time with pagans the whole "we're not charging for this item" pops up a lot. Charging or items/spellwork/whatever is considered bad ju-ju, so they have to come up with an excuse to be paid for it.
Also I don't really know a lot about Djinns, but I'm pretty sure in 1001 Arabian Nights they were nothing but murderous assholes. Don't these people know that?
KnitOneKillTwo, April 13, 2015, 07:30:58 am
No because New Age people don't actually learn about other religions they just take the parts they like without learning why they're important
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As someone who has spent a lot of time with pagans the whole "we're not charging for this item" pops up a lot. Charging or items/spellwork/whatever is considered bad ju-ju, so they have to come up with an excuse to be paid for it.KnitOneKillTwo, April 13, 2015, 07:30:58 am
Those same verbal gymnastics are present in the water-snob episode too, I remember.
"The water is free! You're just paying for the packaging, shipping, and distribution!"
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No because New Age people don't actually learn about other religions they just take the parts they like without learning why they're important
Smoking Crow, April 13, 2015, 12:04:38 pm
I was bowled over by the amount of that in this episode. Aladdin must be for these people what The Lion King is for furries.
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I've said this many a time, but having grown up with new age beliefs, that's basically it in a nutshell. You grab the parts you like from various native american/asian/pagan/etc. beliefs and throw them together in a ball and insist you need to blow huge amounts of money on crystals or some weird pyramids you wear on your head or expensive seminars to swim with dolphins or else you're not doing it "right". Even better if you throw in shit that came directly from a fucking scifi/fantasy novel and insist it's from actual cultural beliefs and therefore it's totally okay to desecrate indian burial grounds with your fucking resin-and-metal bullshit because stargate has to be real (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/06/06/crazy-theories-threaten-serpent-mound-demean-native-heritage-149733)
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Somehow I am less surprised by weird hippies fucking up a native american historical site than weird hippies acting like the trappings of the second most widely practiced religion in the world are so exotic and niche. They are definitely among the whitest people ever read about on this podcast. Maybe it has the 'scare your conservative dad' appeal?
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Somehow I am less surprised by weird hippies fucking up a native american historical site than weird hippies acting like the trappings of the second most widely practiced religion in the world are so exotic and niche. They are definitely among the whitest people ever read about on this podcast. Maybe it has the 'scare your conservative dad' appeal?
eudo, April 14, 2015, 10:34:34 am
"Scare your conservative dad" should be a tag.
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The relationship between these people and their imaginary friends in a nutshell:
(http://i.imgur.com/DmuxgZt.png)
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I'm pretty sure the blue aura thing can be easily explained by LSD, which can be absorbed through the skin.
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Someone should get on that, unless LSD is prohibitively expensive to make. Just cover 'magickal' items with the stuff, package it in a way that the delivery personnel don't come in contact with it, and then sit back and giggle as the testimonials of auras and shit come flooding in.
The cheeto dust thing, on the other hand, I suspect is just diabetic neuropathy.
Also, Lemon, at the beginning of the bit with the guy clearly being trolled by his wife, that's a scarily good Dalek voice. Yell that shit through a ring modulator and see what happens.
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The cheeto dust thing, on the other hand, I suspect is just diabetic neuropathy.
memorylikeasieve, April 16, 2015, 04:13:01 pm
As someone who legitimately has diabetic neuropathy, mostly just the random sensations and sometimes feet tingling, I can say for sure that it feels nothing like cheeto dust. On the other hand with no LSD experience I can only assure you are correct there.
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People are fucking idiots
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Earnestly, scammy bullshit episodes are some of my favorites, and this episode's djinn shop was probably the best one since i-doser.
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The cheeto dust thing, on the other hand, I suspect is just diabetic neuropathy.
memorylikeasieve, April 16, 2015, 04:13:01 pm
As someone who legitimately has diabetic neuropathy, mostly just the random sensations and sometimes feet tingling, I can say for sure that it feels nothing like cheeto dust.Blandest, April 17, 2015, 05:11:10 am
But does it feel like something's licking them? /is curious.
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Also, it's probably worth searching ebay for djinn, it's pretty good, I mean I just found this:
As one knows the illuminati have billions they own and rule parts of the world this is a secret sociality that has been around the world for centuries these are high order do you believe in djinn then you must know this djinn is from one of the grand masters of this sociality on who is wealth one in power. And this djinn has move that person up. I will not go into names for those names are kept secret this djinn can seek out power put you in the right place at the right time. Move you to status that will rock your world. Never to want never to be in debt never to go without love money have the luck with a touch of Midas anything you do or want is yours. Secret sociality’s all know how to work energies to their favor nice isn’t it when you only know up not down know who you enemies are know who to trust. Know where to turn to get where you want in life. Get that soul mate love. This is one the most powerful djinns that I have to offer from the illuminati I now have 5 from 5 masters these are very powerful men who have done more then most people in their life time. Have raised rakes and are wealthy beyond belief now wouldn’t life be sweeter if we had the way to move energies to fulfill our dreams had all we ever wanted. Can you image what your life would be like to wake in the morning and really be happy knowing you can go and do anything you want with the right combination of energies with the right spirit you can have it all this is the secret djinn of the illuminati may life now be easy and may every dream wish desire hopes and goal be yours.it bares no evil or negative energies. The power of this ring can bring wealth riches he can influence vibration to bring forth your wishes he is a wish grantor he will bring health love and luck in all areas of ones life.Quote from
A Meat, April 12, 2015, 05:45:51 am
With everything else going on, it's easy to overlook that it's described as "vintaged," which could just be a typo but probably means it isn't even old, the seller just bought it on a discount rack and let it sit in vinegar for a few days or something.
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The cheeto dust thing, on the other hand, I suspect is just diabetic neuropathy.
memorylikeasieve, April 16, 2015, 04:13:01 pm
As someone who legitimately has diabetic neuropathy, mostly just the random sensations and sometimes feet tingling, I can say for sure that it feels nothing like cheeto dust. On the other hand with no LSD experience I can only assure you are correct there.
Blandest, April 17, 2015, 05:11:10 am
LSD more or less does whatever you expect it to do. Whether you knew you were expecting it or not.
I've said this many a time, but having grown up with new age beliefs, that's basically it in a nutshell. You grab the parts you like from various native american/asian/pagan/etc. beliefs and throw them together in a ball and insist you need to blow huge amounts of money on crystals or some weird pyramids you wear on your head or expensive seminars to swim with dolphins or else you're not doing it "right". Even better if you throw in shit that came directly from a fucking scifi/fantasy novel and insist it's from actual cultural beliefs and therefore it's totally okay to desecrate indian burial grounds with your fucking resin-and-metal bullshit because stargate has to be real
Those orgone-crystal people are some of the most frustrating to me because not only are their beliefs ridiculous in and of themselves, but because they also make sure that Wilhelm Reich is remembred for the tragic decline lat ein his career, rather than the body of compellng (if not always plausible) work he did before that, when he was one f Freud's most promising followers rather than a self-deluded snake oil salesman. I actually find a lot of similarity between him and Ray Kurzweil in that sense.
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I've said this many a time, but having grown up with new age beliefs, that's basically it in a nutshell. You grab the parts you like from various native american/asian/pagan/etc. beliefs and throw them together in a ball and insist you need to blow huge amounts of money on crystals or some weird pyramids you wear on your head or expensive seminars to swim with dolphins or else you're not doing it "right". Even better if you throw in shit that came directly from a fucking scifi/fantasy novel and insist it's from actual cultural beliefs and therefore it's totally okay to desecrate indian burial grounds with your fucking resin-and-metal bullshit because stargate has to be real
Those orgone-crystal people are some of the most frustrating to me because not only are their beliefs ridiculous in and of themselves, but because they also make sure that Wilhelm Reich is remembred for the tragic decline lat ein his career, rather than the body of compellng (if not always plausible) work he did before that, when he was one f Freud's most promising followers rather than a self-deluded snake oil salesman. I actually find a lot of similarity between him and Ray Kurzweil in that sense.
Old_Zircon, April 18, 2015, 09:43:12 am
Guess what, I think basically the same thing, which is why there is a doc about orgone crystals and 'gifting' in the hopper. I didn't include much about the parts the crazies talk about Wilhelm Reich, but rest assured, they mostly mention the crazy parts of his career, like his "cloudbuster".
If you want a fun evening, search youtube for cloudbuster, and take note of the fact that the one in the Kate Bush music video is more impressive than all of the others put together
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Yeah, I bet it's like "distressed." Anyway, listening to this a second time I realized what this reminded me of--it was something that watchful-entity reblogged a while ago (sadly I think it was on the original w-e blog and thus lost to the world by now) which was a proposed dialogue between two people in a restaurant about whether magic worked. One of them supposedly cast a spell to make the waiter come over and refill her water glass, upon which they put the glass to the side of the table, the waiter noticed it was empty, and refilled it, therefore magic! So yeah, if your expectations are low enough apparently most stuff looks like magic and your life is a whole lot more exciting than people who realize that cause and effect exists.
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So yeah, if your expectations are low enough apparently most stuff looks like magic and your life is a whole lot more exciting than people who realize that cause and effect exists.
TheCrawlingChaos, April 18, 2015, 11:59:49 am
I think you meant meant to say "cost (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/Casting_cost)and effect (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/Effect)."
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So yeah, if your expectations are low enough apparently most stuff looks like magic and your life is a whole lot more exciting than people who realize that cause and effect exists.
TheCrawlingChaos, April 18, 2015, 11:59:49 am
I think you meant meant to say "cost (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/Casting_cost)and effect (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/Effect)."
Old_Zircon, April 18, 2015, 12:25:04 pm
Heeee! I stand corrected. It also kinda made me think of Mage: The Awakening where the world and the laws of reality are out to get you sufficiently that you have to make your magic happen in the most coincidental way possible or face being erased from existence by your Paradox rating. Only much, much lamer than that.
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The reason I think djinn people are the dumbest of the lot: Being otherkin is free, while a "real djinn" can cost you anything from 1 to 1000 dollars.
montrith, April 12, 2015, 08:20:53 am
Judging by the Kinfood Tumblr, Shadowkin have a pretty big pasta budget.
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[yay] Re-listening to this episode, I found a new username! [yay]