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Topic: Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin  (Read 32164 times)

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #60
He's a damn Ruskie, so he's probably on his way to steal my potatoes now. Thanks a lot you guys.

#Potatoshaming #Oppression

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #61
i, too, like the joke about potatoes. it is novel and fun.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #62
I'm a ballbusterkin and I'd like some recipes involving a large potato and a long sock
Mister Smalls, January 05, 2015, 06:33:48 pm

For this recipe you will need
- 1 large potato
- 1 long sock

1. Preheat oven to 400
2. Put a large potato in a long sock

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #63
i, too, like the joke about potatoes. it is novel and fun.
chai tea latte, January 05, 2015, 07:08:38 pm

Everyone's Russian to make the joke first.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #64
Okay, so here's a post that's not about potatoes.

At what points did you guys start to notice huge, gaping holes in the entire charade being perpetrated here? For me, it started with the worms and just spiraled from there. If you really believe you're a badger, even assuming that this is a magical world where you're not criminally insane for believing that, wouldn't you just eat the worms? If you're really a succubus in your soul, why does being single preclude you from the gluttonous acquisition of jizz? The market value of dick, even clean dick, is not high.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #65
If you're really a succubus in your soul, why does being single preclude you from the gluttonous acquisition of jizz? The market value of dick, even clean dick, is not high.
THE TRUE JUICE, January 05, 2015, 08:33:34 pm

I can't speak for the wormeaters, but jizzgetting would generally require some form of real-life interaction, which is probably very difficult for most otherkin types.  And/or Mom would get mad if she found out.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #66
I feel like everyone is being pretty transparent about their #1 goal to be "looking like I want to eat worms". Nobody actually wants to eat worms, they just want everyone to look at them and say "wow, that dude wants to eat worms! He must be very otherkin!" I can see why so many people choose their kintype as something that doesn't exist in reality, because then you get all the sweet kin-cred but nobody can call you on your shit like "hey you're always saying you want to drink unicorn blood... prove it. Drink some unicorn blood, right here, right now."

Plus there's the added bonus of everyone thinking you're special for identifying as something nobody else does. Everyone wants to be as different as possible, as easily as possible

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #67
It just drives home how little they actually believe in any of it. It's the same principle as the vampire guy, just constantly reaffirming stuff that's too absurd to handle.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #68
Definitely. It's a sore subject among the friends I still talk to from my Tumblr days but that site really is an environment where people see everyone talking about something and say "hey I can be that!" I'm all for people exploring their identities and being true to themselves, but I've seen enough people claiming to be trans or otherkin or whatever when they're clearly just doing it to fit in, and that's stupid. I'm in no way trying to deny privilege or whatever but there genuinely is a stigma on Tumblr attached to not being a minority of one type or another, and it pushes people to identify as something that makes them different.

This is 100% anecdotal but I knew a girl who was so full of it, always posting about how it gave her so much anxiety when people called her a girl and didn't use gender neutral pronouns for her. But she lived in our house for a few months, and I saw her real life reactions to being called a girl, and I saw her real life reactions to things that set off her anxiety. Granted she may be telling the truth when she says she feels more comfortable being addressed with neutral pronouns but the way she presented herself online she was very clearly exaggerating any feelings of gender dysphoria she may have had.

Everyone wants attention and validation, and everyone wants people to see how nice and supportive they are. It's a big circlejerk where everyone talks about how special they are, and then everyone pats each other on the back for being special, and then everyone who's not getting patted on the back says "hey how do I get in on that sweet backpat action? I should probably tell them I'm special too." What bothers me the most about it is how, by claiming to be going through the real struggles of other people, you're showing how little you actually take those struggles seriously. Everyone embellishes everything to sound more impressive, I've seen people pretend to have eating disorders, DID, schizophrenia, all kinds of shit that is actually extremely serious. Classic example everyone's heard a million times would be people saying they have obsessive-compulsive disorder when they just like organizing shit or whatever. But god forbid you call someone on their shit, people will never forgive you for questioning a person. I should probably stop talking about Tumblr, it always turns into a rant.

Tumblr Is Bad
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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #69
I tend to assume it's a lot of sheltered kids who don't really have any idea what these actual disorders entail; probably a lot of them are at that point in their mental/emotional development where they're trying to figure out who they are, so they're trying on whatever identity's available to distinguish themselves. 

It's kind of interesting how we now have the opportunity to observe kids' inner lives, since they're dumb and barf them all over for the world to see.  I expect the tumblrite idiocy isn't too terribly removed from idiocy of ages past, just easier to find.  (I mean, shit, the last two episodes have made me eternally grateful that social media wasn't a big thing when I was in middle/high school, because I would probably have been all over that mess.  Especially the vampire stuff.)

Basically, kids are dumb and bumble around trying to figure things out.  Though I guess it's no less annoying and offensive that they're coopting important social movements with idiocy.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #70
I can't help but wonder if part of it is that some of them are people who are unhappy for reasons they don't understand why or how to deal with it so they're exceptionally quick to believe that of COURSE it's because I'm actually an animal in my soul! or whatever, because that explains why I'm not happy with myself. I had something like this go on at one point during my mid-teens where I was convinced I was transgender because I was so uncomfortable and unhappy with myself and the only thing that hit on how I felt was when I heard people talk about gender dysphoria, but later on down the road it turned out to because I had some serious anxiety issues going on that were exacerbated by the medication I was taking at the time (fun fact if you're someone with anxiety issues ADHD medication that's supposed to make you focus can result in some pretty bad shit). Looking back on it I am absolutely willing to believe that if I had known about otherkin shit at the time I absolutely would have leapt onto it and been all about actually being a dragon in my soul or whatever because this was the period where I was SUPER into anime and new age stuff so someone telling me "you're a dragon in your soul" would have been the best thing ever in my mind, because I was INCREDIBLY unhappy and had no real idea of where the unhappiness was coming from.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #71
I think so, yeah. Tumblr is pretty much the opposite of what teenagers need, it makes everyone obsessed with labeling themselves, and then people start calling themselves demiromantic and the world ends

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #72
There's also a certain shrewdness to it, albeit the shrewdness a lazy/socially retarded teenager would exercise, and it didn't start within Tumblr. Within circles of kids like this, there exists an unspoken imperative to make these things plausible. Again, see Real Vampire Guy: He wants to believe this, and for people to believe him, so badly that he's reduced the signs of being a Real Vampire to shit anybody can do or perceive themselves as doing. You don't have to burst into flames in the sunlight or gouge out people's necks with your teeth to be a Real Vampire, you just have to have some of these vague qualities that are almost impossible to verify. It lets you be a part of the secret cool Real Vampire club, even if it's only in your head and only as often as you reaffirm it to yourself. For another example, consider the magick/Wicca/Satanist/whatever kids I'm sure most of you knew in reality or observed online back in the day who generalized and handwaved the whole concept into meaninglessness. You know how it goes: "Being a witch doesn't mean casting spells/not going to church/doing anything meaningfully different from how I lived my life before 8th grade."

Now compare, say, the meteoric plummet of any meaning behind the term 'asexual' on Tumblr. It arose as something that, on the outset, seems like it'd take little to no effort to perform. You just don't feel attraction to either gender or want to perform sex acts, and nobody on the internet can really check up on how much sex you're not having. All seems right until you realize you can't keep up the charade when every second post on your blog is either erotic fanfiction or pictures of dudes with you lusting out in the tags. Suddenly keeping up the con would mean a vast overhaul of your hobbies, or at least the public face of your hobbies. Now when someone calls you out, it becomes necessary to explain that it's totally possible to be asexual and feel sexual desire/enjoy porn/write pervy fanfiction with a hand under the desk. When that doesn't hold water, you make up a new thing where you're totally into sex (almost always straight sex, because who the fuck are we kidding) but only with certain people and only once specific emotional and interpersonal prerequisites have been met. This makes you a demisexual, or in any other social circle outside the nerdy end of Tumblr, an average but discerning sex partner. There's an even greasier little movement that argues that one shouldn't have to experience bodily dysphoria to have claim to the label of transsexual/transgender, completely disregarding the fact that its being a legitimate physical problem and not a Feel is what's gradually enabling people to pursue treatment.

What it boils down to is this: They want to be Special, not Different. These are separate things and they know it, at least subconsciously. Being Different is difficult, it's uncomfortable, it's uncontrollable, and it's not generally something you get to define yourself.

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #73
Good point. That's one thing that I just don't understand at all, the people who argue that you can consider yourself transgendered without experiencing any feelings of dysmorphia (I'm pretty sure they call themselves "tucutes" unless I'm thinking of something else). It honestly feels less like an argument and more like a "because I said so, shut up". If a person who was designated male at birth, feels no dysmorphia whatsoever, and identifies as male can call himself trans, you're just taking away all meaning of the word and everything behind it. It's seems pretty fucking disrespectful to me and I'm amazed people get so aggressive when defending this point of view. I'm not trans so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but I don't know, I can't see any way of looking at it other than "majority people labeling themselves as minorities" Seems fucked up to me! Basically the gender equivalent of an extremely white person talking about his 1/16 Cherokee blood. Sorry if that makes me a piece of truscum shit!

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Episode 160: To Serve Otherkin #74
I think so, yeah. Tumblr is pretty much the opposite of what teenagers need, it makes everyone obsessed with labeling themselves, and then people start calling themselves demiromantic and the world ends
fifty cents, January 06, 2015, 05:34:59 am

Nah, kids have always been obsessed with labelling themselves to declare their identities.  They're just doing it where everyone can see them now.

The main issue is from the coopting of legit activism, which we need to find a way to discourage, since that's harmful to others.  Anything else is like 99% typical teenage goofiness, which they'll grow out of.

I'm not really keen on the idea that one MUST conform strictly to the dysmorphia/full medical model of transgender diagnosis.  If a person commits to presenting as one gender, full-time, 100% but don't feel a need (or have the ability) to get medical alterations to their body, I don't see how that would make that person less that gender.  I understand that for many transfolks it's more about being treated as who you are than about what form your junk takes, so making "hates their body" a prerequisite for recognizing the appropriate gender is kind of fucked up.

(Especially when it means that one has to get involved with the horrifying circus that is the medical crap surrounding trans people.  I have Stories from a lot of trans friends.)