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Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Lemon on June 13, 2013, 12:20:00 am
I guess if you think about it for a little while, you could probably come up with a couple good things that women have provided for the world. Apparently the square bottom paper grocery bag was invented by a woman, also COBOL, and say what you will about the execution, but Toxic is a pretty catchy song. Still though, for the writers of sites like the-spearhead.com, avoiceformen.com and Men Going Their Own Way, that simply isn't enough. These are some dudes that have some issues with women, and like a lot of things, that's the fault of women. This week, The F Plus feels emboldened by the smell of urinal cakes.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Ansemaru on June 13, 2013, 01:22:18 am
I must try hard to not scream. It is hard. It is so very hard.

But god, the jokes are making this go from horrible to bearable. The ridiculists are really on the ball with this one.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: cyclopeantrash on June 13, 2013, 01:25:33 am
As a feminist this pisses me off. As a male, this pisses me off. As an fplus fan, this made me laugh hysterically. The reactions were brilliant. They top even the Uneducation reactions. I was caught between punching my wall and splitting my sides the entire time.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Adam Bozarth on June 13, 2013, 03:18:50 am
I think Lemon left in all of my sighing and groaning. I apologize, listeners, it's just that these are the most reprehensible people on earth.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: chai tea latte on June 13, 2013, 05:23:48 am
I think Lemon left in all of my sighing and groaning. I apologize, listeners, it's just that these are the most reprehensible people on earth.
Adam Bozarth, June 13, 2013, 03:18:50 am
So why do you go on a podcast with them?

hey-YOOOOOOOO

(honestly though what a fucking good episode, major congrats in order to all the Ridiculists and sherlockian for compiling a fantastic doc)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: montrith on June 13, 2013, 06:53:19 am
Jesus. The only thing that made this stuff listenable was the fact that everyone was at least as angry as I was. There's just so much stupidity and broken logic here and the worst thing about it is that I know that these guys are so totally convinced they're right. Talking to a MRA is like yelling at a wall.

But what do I know, I'm just a stupid college educated whore (not slut) who has to find out what a toilet is pretty soon since I'm going to need to use one.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on June 13, 2013, 07:02:20 am
Oh shit I gotta register for LadyCon '13!
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on June 13, 2013, 07:44:00 am
And now I'm gleefully waiting for transatlanticalien to illustrate the cock carousel.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on June 13, 2013, 08:17:08 am
Yeah, that "the only thing boys get that girls don't is a prescription for ritalin"? That's a fucking lie. Part of the reason I wasn't diagnosed with ADD until I was 18 was that ADD was (and still is, to an extent) seen as a "boys' disorder".

Also, it's not by any stretch of the imagination easy to be a lesbian, but it's awesome to know that I can just go "BOOGEDY BOOGEDY" at somebody like the Spearhead dudes and they'll shit themselves and start shrieking about whores. Good times.

(Fun fact: we have, several generations back in the family tree, a bona fide suffragette. She raised seven younger siblings, only five of whom made it to adulthood if I remember correctly, and then when she discovered she wasn't allowed to vote she went "well that's a bunch of bullshit" and joined the marches and protests. However, when the voting amendment passed and she discovered her husband wasn't going to vote the same way as she was, she was so furious that she didn't vote for decades.)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Cheapskate on June 13, 2013, 10:50:45 am
And now I'm gleefully waiting for transatlanticalien to illustrate the cock carousel.
Al, June 13, 2013, 07:44:00 am

But that's such a terrible metaphor! I think they're trying to say that women go from one cock to another, all the time, but when you're on a carousel, you stay on the same horse the whole way through. Maybe they should've gone with "musical cock chairs."
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: nilvoid on June 13, 2013, 11:20:32 am
Now that you guys've finally gotten around to making an MRA episode, I have to ask: Which content was harder to read, bug-fuckers or MRAs?
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Sherlockian on June 13, 2013, 12:17:55 pm
Wow, I see what Lemon meant about there being a lot of audible pain in this episode.  I think I could make a drinking game counting the times people sigh.

But still, glee!  My first episode credit!
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Mighty Dicktron on June 13, 2013, 01:46:26 pm
Now that you guys've finally gotten around to making an MRA episode, I have to ask: Which content was harder to read, bug-fuckers or MRAs?
nilvoid, June 13, 2013, 11:20:32 am

mras were definitely harder to listen to
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Boots Raingear on June 13, 2013, 02:03:12 pm
Yeah, this was definitely harder. This is an attitude that is legitimately harmful and, while this material is a bit of an extreme example, is reflective of the shitty attitudes of an awful lot of people in our society. It's fucking gross, I hate it.

It took a fair amount of mental preparation and a bit of liquid courage on my part to be able to have fun in the face of something I so thoroughly despise.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Adam Bozarth on June 13, 2013, 02:38:20 pm
And now I'm gleefully waiting for transatlanticalien to illustrate the cock carousel.
Al, June 13, 2013, 07:44:00 am

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2301/2441843498_f612a28cb1.jpg)
WAS IT WORTH IT? BAH-GAWK!
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Lemon on June 13, 2013, 03:03:58 pm
Now that you guys've finally gotten around to making an MRA episode, I have to ask: Which content was harder to read, bug-fuckers or MRAs?
nilvoid, June 13, 2013, 11:20:32 am

Speaking strictly for myself, I have a much easier time reading hyperperverts than reading guys like this, because guys like this are pervasive and genuinely damaging to something greater than their own urethras.

I touched on it before, but I think it's perfectly fine and reasonable for dudes to want to bang sluts, and I'm really not bothered by the liberal amount of bullshit that is sometimes applied by dudes who are trying to bang sluts. That's all fine, and we recognize that courtship involves a certain amount of selective truths. Really, that's part of the fun, and everyone over 13 understands that the advice to "be yourself" is offered with a big asterisk.

But, the PUAs and the MRAs are actively constructing a Boys vs Girls Battlezone, and these fucking guys turn gender politics into something like a race war: Women are subhuman, they are nice to put dicks into so by all means give that a shot, but feel free to do it at the sacrifice to everything else because, if your dickery ruined someone's night, at least you tried! It's a Pussy Hunt with a Scorched Earth Policy. Women don't want to fuck you because they think you're gross? Burn the village.

I know I'm conflating MRAs, PUAs and InCels in this, but it's the same mindset, and I'm certain it's a lot of the same people.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: nilvoid on June 13, 2013, 03:35:48 pm
Now that you guys've finally gotten around to making an MRA episode, I have to ask: Which content was harder to read, bug-fuckers or MRAs?
nilvoid, June 13, 2013, 11:20:32 am

Speaking strictly for myself, I have a much easier time reading hyperperverts than reading guys like this, because guys like this are pervasive and genuinely damaging to something greater than their own urethras.

I touched on it before, but I think it's perfectly fine and reasonable for dudes to want to bang sluts, and I'm really not bothered by the liberal amount of bullshit that is sometimes applied by dudes who are trying to bang sluts. That's all fine, and we recognize that courtship involves a certain amount of selective truths. Really, that's part of the fun, and everyone over 13 understands that the advice to "be yourself" is offered with a big asterisk.

But, the PUAs and the MRAs are actively constructing a Boys vs Girls Battlezone, and these fucking guys turn gender politics into something like a race war: Women are subhuman, they are nice to put dicks into so by all means give that a shot, but feel free to do it at the sacrifice to everything else because, if your dickery ruined someone's night, at least you tried! It's a Pussy Hunt with a Scorched Earth Policy. Women don't want to fuck you because they think you're gross? Burn the village.

I know I'm conflating MRAs, PUAs and InCels in this, but it's the same mindset, and I'm certain it's a lot of the same people.
Lemon, June 13, 2013, 03:03:58 pm

Yeah, I absolutely agree. This episode more than any other had me unconsciously begging for it to end, despite enjoying the jokes. Making it all so much worse is their tendency to take an infinitesimally tiny part of women who are behaving, in their eyes, "badly," and apply it to all women everywhere, or at the very least just Western women (as if they're just one big group). I've spent a lot of time pouring through Men's Rights Reddit, and they are absolutely unable to see beyond their own experiences (white college dudes, basically), screaming at strawmen without a shred of empathy or self-awareness. It's sickening.

If there's any positives to be taken out of this, it's that although these guys like to consider themselves politically active (especially the MRAs), they are absolutely powerless. Ironically, this lack of being taken seriously only fuels their horrible attitudes, as its supposedly evidence of some kind of coverup orchestrated by academia, the media, and the government to keep men down (pfft). "We're right, and if you BITCHES would just stop proving us WRONG then we could show you how RIGHT we are!!!"
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Yossarian on June 13, 2013, 03:37:13 pm
These people think that they live in the Vietnam War of gender relations. Anyone blinks at what you say and its time to carpet bomb Hanoi. Clearly a well thought out and productive policy.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Moriarty on June 13, 2013, 04:01:17 pm
I found this episode far less enraging than I thought I would. The particular bits that were read just kept hitting the peacock-as-apex-predator level for me, making the whole thing more ridiculous and confusing than upsetting. I can't even see these dudes being welcomed in any of the actually influential (and therefore more dangerous) anti-feminist organizations.

Actually, now that I think of it, I would totally pay money to see one of these guys derail an anti-abortion meeting with weird talk about women not understanding toilets.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: JT on June 13, 2013, 05:03:41 pm
Normally I enjoy listening to the F Plus, but this episode only managed to fill me with frustration. I can certainly see why you guys had been trying to avoid this topic.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: KingKalamari on June 13, 2013, 06:10:27 pm
When you're into comics you run into these guys by the boatload for some reason (Usually whenever someone points out instances of sexism) and the thing that always gets me is the utter hypocrisy in their attitude towards people who are interested in women's issues: These guys universally seem to consider feminists a bunch of whiney nitwits who constantly get up in arms about nothing and complain for the sake of complaining. But you look at the MRA's attempts at activism and the shit that they get up in arms about (CHAIRS!), yet these guys do not, apparently, see any sort of disconnect there.

These MRA nitwits are the whiniest bunch of flailing douchebags on the face of the earth. They make Valerie Solanas and Andrea Dworkin look like Margaret Atwood and Susan B Anthony.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Chaz on June 13, 2013, 06:13:25 pm
As much as the subject matter of this episode frustrates me, I have to congratulate the ridiculists in making it bearable.

Also I enjoyed Adam Bozarth doing his discount Orson Welles impersonation, as advertised in his guest profile on the site!
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: transatlanticalien on June 13, 2013, 06:37:50 pm
And now I'm gleefully waiting for transatlanticalien to illustrate the cock carousel.
Al, June 13, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Oh no! I was going to give this episode a miss for a while, but
now I feel obligated to not let you down
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: count_actuala on June 13, 2013, 09:58:15 pm
It's probably because they're insecure asswipes.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Down10 on June 14, 2013, 02:19:56 am
A lot of the soapboxing in these reads reminds me of typical "hot talk" radio where there is no shortage of pithy-but-brainless arguments that are squeezed between commercials for "male enhancement" pills. The reactionary rants are full of contempt and outrage and disgust, but rather than lead into some kind of call to action or an actual protest, they just piss and moan and carry on.

The more absurd and revolting the arguments from these MRAs, the more of it is an indication that they haven't left their basements and talked to actual human beings. Once you realize this, the easier it is to dismiss it as the natural course of social progress. So I don't get too depressed about it. Much of it is toothless and nothing to worry about in terms of the real world. (We are laughing at them, are we not?)

I just hope these knuckle-draggers forget to vote.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: 🍆 on June 14, 2013, 04:15:04 am
The "reverse Idiocracy" comment was perfect. I remember years and years ago (probably close to a decade ago, now that I think about it) coming across some site that was dedicated to convincing men that Western women were evil, and you had to go to Asia to find a perfect submissive waifu if you wanted to have a satisfactory life. At first I was completely boggled with "oh my god this is SO HORRIBLE", innocent child that I was. Then I realized: wait, these guys horrible, hateful, petulant losers and are voluntarily removing themselves from my dating pool. Possibly from the gene pool altogether, for that matter.

That's the Internet's greatest service. Creating subcultures for people who hate women, or hate women that are 3D, or don't exactly hate women but can't get it up unless she's wearing five fake dicks and a clip-on raccoon tail, or whatever -- these are people who once would have had to buck up, leave their rooms, learn to suppress their myriad issues, and find actual friends and romantic partners (who would later learn somewhere down the line that they'd actually befriended/dated/married a fucking crazy person). Now those people can replace their yearning for human contact with codependent internet allies who will tell them that it's totally cool and okay that you want to dedicate your life to filing complaints against the matriarchy for keeping your mom from sleeping with you, or whatever, and the rest of us can rest just a little easier knowing that the awkward guy at the end of the bar probably isn't suppressing an urge to anatomically correct every frame of the My Little Pony cartoon.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Adam Bozarth on June 14, 2013, 08:32:10 am
As "harmless" as the authors of this dreck might be in person, their vitriol and shitty opinions are being deseminated on the Internet where anyone can pick it up. The Internet is still a really effective communicator and has created these echo chambers quite handily.

This would be fine and dandy if shitty opinions just stayed online. Do you remember during the last election when so many Republicans were trying to redefine rape? What is that shit? What about Stuebenville, where the attitude of prosecuting the actual rape has been more focused on the males who lost their potential career as pro athletes instead of the poor victim? Or just the casual usage of rape as a punchline in comedy. If you think it's limited to a Tosh off-night show, try going to any open mic night and sit through the guys who WANT to be a great comedian like Daniel Tosh.

Its important that these idiots are mocked and derided because their backwards ideas and baseless hatred are persistently keeping fellow human beings oppressed. They are not harmless.

I was saying to Lemon that The F Plus does a fantastic job of revealing the scaffolding around human delusion. There is a base falsehood somewhere in the arguement that the poster's life is centered around. Whereas some delusions are ultimately only harmful to social interaction, this level of misogyny seems to be too appealing.

The F Plus also features a really mangled and entitled version of civil rights that exists online. It's easy to laugh about "trigger warnings" and "privilege" posts when the author thinks they are a dragon ghost in an ugly teenaged body. However, its important to remember that there still is real oppression out in the world.

Enough of me and my soapbox. Just be nice to everyone, everyone.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Ike on June 14, 2013, 10:22:37 am
What the fuck is the "Anglosphere?"
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Boots Raingear on June 14, 2013, 10:39:56 am
What the fuck is the "Anglosphere?"
Ike, June 14, 2013, 10:22:37 am
It's a collective term for the countries of the world that use English as their prominent language and share similar culture. It comes from Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, which is much more interesting than The Matrix.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Cyberventurer on June 14, 2013, 12:27:26 pm
I'd rather imagine he meant Anglospherical and it was about a bunch of really fat white assholes wondering why nobody wants to touch them.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Down10 on June 14, 2013, 12:51:35 pm
Don't get me wrong, we should take every opportunity to mock these people, call them on their bullshit, and minimize their impact on society. Maybe I'm being an optimist, because I don't see their cause of Men's Rights as being successful now or in the future. It may sell books or offer content for Tom Leykis and other shitheads on Hot Talk radio, but it's not going to fly in a progressive society that respects human rights. The main thing to do, along side exposing these ugly beliefs, is to educate people on why these beliefs are ugly.

What the fuck is the "Anglosphere?"Ike, June 14, 2013, 10:22:37 am
It's a collective term for the countries of the world that use English as their prominent language and share similar culture. It comes from Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, which is much more interesting than The Matrix.Boots Raingear, June 14, 2013, 10:39:56 am
Is that worth reading? I tend to shy away from giant tomes of fiction due to my short attention span, but I read Snow Crash and loved it.

Also, let me add that you read my mind when you noted the irony of them making Matrix references, while one of the writers of that movie had fully switched genders.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: PurpleXVI on June 14, 2013, 02:19:10 pm
Honestly, I couldn't really get angry at this episode because the subjects were just so goddamn pathetic. A lot of fantasizing about PUNISHING THE EVIL SLUTS, but almost certainly a bunch of meek fuckwits in person.

It was absolutely fucking hilarious, though.

But, hey, sure, there are probably a few places where men get it rough, but that's not because of some sort of ANTI MAN CONSPIRACY, that's just because of age old stereotypes that hit women just as hard, or worse. Neither gender's out to "get" the other, except for a few assholes like these guys, and the sooner both sides realize the other's Just People, not some sort of strange, incomprehensible aliens, the sooner we can dump the goddamn stereotypes and be excellent to one another.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Runic on June 14, 2013, 04:56:53 pm
Don't get me wrong, we should take every opportunity to mock these people, call them on their bullshit, and minimize their impact on society. Maybe I'm being an optimist, because I don't see their cause of Men's Rights as being successful now or in the future. It may sell books or offer content for Tom Leykis and other shitheads on Hot Talk radio, but it's not going to fly in a progressive society that respects human rights. The main thing to do, along side exposing these ugly beliefs, is to educate people on why these beliefs are ugly.

What the fuck is the "Anglosphere?"Ike, June 14, 2013, 10:22:37 am
It's a collective term for the countries of the world that use English as their prominent language and share similar culture. It comes from Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, which is much more interesting than The Matrix.Boots Raingear, June 14, 2013, 10:39:56 am
Is that worth reading? I tend to shy away from giant tomes of fiction due to my short attention span, but I read Snow Crash and loved it.

Also, let me add that you read my mind when you noted the irony of them making Matrix references, while one of the writers of that movie had fully switched genders.
Down10, June 14, 2013, 12:51:35 pm
I would recommend it! It may be my favorite of his novels. Lots of fun ideas.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on June 14, 2013, 05:12:11 pm
What the fuck is the "Anglosphere?"
Ike, June 14, 2013, 10:22:37 am
Anglosphere is the worst Pokemon. You get it by breeding a Trubbish with a Neckbeardigon.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on June 14, 2013, 06:35:23 pm
I know Toast said this in the episode, but I love the self-inconsistent PUA explaining why it's women's fault that Game doesn't work.

Women have tiny little hard-wired minds.  All they do is pick out the male with the highest value and work towards getting fucked by him.  Make it your business to exude value and you'll be fighting off bitches!

> OK, I tried that, and it doesn't work.

Women have such tiny little brains that they cannot figure out how high value you are!

That's one explanation.  It might also be that women are a little more complex than simple reflex agents that point their crotches at the local maxima of the social-value distribution.
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Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on June 14, 2013, 07:26:09 pm
Women have tiny little hard-wired minds.  All they do is pick out the male with the highest value and work towards getting fucked by him.  Make it your business to exude value and you'll be fighting off bitches!

All I can picture is some dude stapling 1 dollar bills to his flabby chest.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on June 14, 2013, 09:02:00 pm
Women have tiny little hard-wired minds.  All they do is pick out the male with the highest value and work towards getting fucked by him.  Make it your business to exude value and you'll be fighting off bitches!

All I can picture is some dude stapling 1 dollar bills to his flabby chest.
Al, June 14, 2013, 07:26:09 pm

Remember Roosh's comment about t-shirts with "yearly income or dick size" on them?  The only reason they don't do that is they've figured out that a certain minimum amount of tact is required.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: agentanalogue on June 15, 2013, 02:02:00 am
What I found surprising about this episode, was that the writing reminded me less of the PUAs and way more of the cock rub warriors.  Interesting.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on June 15, 2013, 02:19:46 am
What I found surprising about this episode, was that the writing reminded me less of the PUAs and way more of the cock rub warriors.  Interesting.
agentmonster cockogue, June 15, 2013, 02:02:00 am

GOD DAMMIT APPARENTLY I ALREADY BULBED SOMEONE
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Cheapskate on June 16, 2013, 01:41:50 am
There's been some talk in the blog world about the Arnold Kling book  The Three Languages of Politics. (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CCGF81Q?) In this book, Kling identifies three basic types of political arguments.

Conservatives see the world as a battle between barbarism and civilization.
Progressives see the world as a battle between oppressors and oppressed.
Libertarians see the world as a battle between coercion and free will.

While a lot of these guys are using conservative-style arguments (i.e. toilets), some of them seem to have bought into the progressive worldview, and because the oppressed are the Good Guys, are searching desperately for a reason to be oppressed (i.e. hard chairs). There are probably also guys in other documents spouting libertarian-type arguments ("child support is slavery!")

I don't know where I was going with this. It just seemed interesting at the time I hit the "reply" button.
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Post by: Runic on June 16, 2013, 02:55:36 pm
The good thing about the MRA is that while they are terrible they never actually do anything. (http://manboobz.com/2013/06/09/mens-rights-redditor-doing-nothing-is-our-plan-for-victory/) In that link they explain how doing nothing is actually part of their master plan!
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Down10 on June 17, 2013, 02:23:15 pm
What I found surprising about this episode, was that the writing reminded me less of the PUAs and way more of the cock rub warriors.  Interesting.agentmonster cockogue, June 15, 2013, 02:02:00 am

Agreed. PUAs may be slimy and shallow, but they still desire women and don't really begrudge any so-called matriarchal oppression so long as they can maneuver it to meet their own goals.

The Cockrub Warriors episode (http://thefpl.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53%3Aepisode-34-a-frottage-in-the-woods&catid=1%3Apodcasts&Itemid=1) is the perfect follow-up to this one. After all hearing all their relentless contempt of the female gender, surely becoming a CRW is a forgone conclusion.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Runic on June 17, 2013, 05:24:42 pm
The difference is that the cockrub warriors were harmless, funny, and I like them and wish them well.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: nilvoid on June 18, 2013, 01:01:12 am
MRAs on Facebook decided to make a poll to decide, once and for all, who the greatest misandrist was in the Year of Our Lord 2013.

But they forgot to disable adding options.

Maybe there is hope for the world after all. (https://www.facebook.com/questions/160373387448452/)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: cyclopeantrash on June 18, 2013, 01:19:48 am
MRAs on Facebook decided to make a poll to decide, once and for all, who the greatest misandrist was in the Year of Our Lord 2013.

But they forgot to disable adding options.

Maybe there is hope for the world after all. (https://www.facebook.com/questions/160373387448452/)
nilvoid, June 18, 2013, 01:01:12 am

The smug icon next to the winning option made the image in my opinion. Brilliant.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: nilvoid on June 18, 2013, 01:27:42 am
MRAs on Facebook decided to make a poll to decide, once and for all, who the greatest misandrist was in the Year of Our Lord 2013.

But they forgot to disable adding options.

Maybe there is hope for the world after all. (https://www.facebook.com/questions/160373387448452/)
nilvoid, June 18, 2013, 01:01:12 am

The smug icon next to the winning option made the image in my opinion. Brilliant.
MicroMissles, June 18, 2013, 01:19:48 am

That's my icon, but I was feeling pretty smug when I posted the image so it fits.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on June 18, 2013, 04:14:58 am
MRAs on Facebook decided to make a poll to decide, once and for all, who the greatest misandrist was in the Year of Our Lord 2013.

But they forgot to disable adding options.

Maybe there is hope for the world after all. (https://www.facebook.com/questions/160373387448452/)
nilvoid, June 18, 2013, 01:01:12 am

God dammit, so many of those answer are beautiful.  It saddens me that "Obama" was probably a real answer on the poll, but it really softens the blow to see that he only narrowly beat out Fluttershy.

A real man-hating cunt, that cartoon horse.
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Post by: montrith on June 18, 2013, 07:56:50 am
That has to be a parody group. Come on, their acronym is SCUM for crying out loud. Still, it's lovely to see all the new answers people have added to that poll.
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Post by: A Whirring Bone-White Gleech on June 18, 2013, 06:07:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/05t4ZOR.png)
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Post by: PurpleXVI on June 18, 2013, 07:09:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/05t4ZOR.png)
Utnaphistim, June 18, 2013, 06:07:24 pm

WHY DID I ALREADY BULB SOMEONE IN THIS THREAD.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: RedMinjo on June 19, 2013, 07:09:32 pm
Not a valid vimeo URL
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: cyclopeantrash on June 19, 2013, 07:11:40 pm
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RedMinjo, June 19, 2013, 07:09:32 pm

To those who haven't bulbed yet. Bulb this. Bulb this right now. It is MRA the video.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: NutshellGulag on June 20, 2013, 12:20:56 am
That was awesome.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: toanoradian on June 23, 2013, 07:19:51 am
(http://i.imgur.com/utD9y10.gif)

I don't know, Men's Right Activists...why don't you express your opinions through SONG?

I swear there's a version of We Didn't Start the Fire that are about Men's Rights, but I can't seem to have the energy to look for it.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: cyclopeantrash on June 23, 2013, 07:47:14 am

I don't know, Men's Right Activists...why don't you express your opinions through SONG?

I swear there's a version of We Didn't Start the Fire that are about Men's Rights, but I can't seem to have the energy to look for it.
toanoradian, June 23, 2013, 07:19:51 am

My inner feminist is screaming at it for it's horrible views on women. My inner music enthusiast is lambasting it for being one of the worst songs I have ever heard. And my inner man is committing self-immolation for sharing a gender with these horrid people. It's like MRA's bring out the worst in everything. Go figure.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: montrith on June 23, 2013, 04:22:11 pm
I've heard the Voice for Men and it's whiny as fuck. Bravo for truly capturing the essence of the movement in that one song, person who decided that was worth their time.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: RedMinjo on June 26, 2013, 03:23:35 pm

Not pictured: The cheering continuing for over 20 minutes, until the end of the special session.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on June 27, 2013, 08:28:44 am
You know what, after listening to the frot episode again, I have to say I think the comments about the MRA probably being cockrub warriors are kind of a false equivalency. The cockrub stuff is about rejecting an idea of how bi and gay men should have sex with each other, not EWWW GIRLS R GROSS.

Somehow I get the feeling that if MRAs found themselves in another marginalized and mistreated group they wouldn't be such dickholes.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Isfahan on July 03, 2013, 06:09:43 pm
I am quite comfortable in assuming the overwhelming majority of MRAs are white. Just as Tumblrites desperately want the sympathy and moral high ground that comes with legitimate oppression, MRAs look down at their white male hands and think "why not me too?"
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: count_actuala on July 05, 2013, 06:47:50 pm
I am quite comfortable in assuming the overwhelming majority of MRAs are white. Just as Tumblrites desperately want the sympathy and moral high ground that comes with legitimate oppression, MRAs look down at their white male hands and think "why not me too?"
Isfahan, July 03, 2013, 06:09:43 pm
I have equalized your score in return for this awesome post with which I agree.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: 🍆 on September 09, 2013, 04:05:12 am
Just relistened to this ep. "Slutty, but heroic" needs to be someone's tagline.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on September 11, 2013, 07:23:03 am
Just relistened to this ep. "Slutty, but heroic" needs to be someone's tagline.
Dacey Mormont, September 09, 2013, 04:05:12 am

You're welcome.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: nilvoid on September 26, 2013, 09:38:29 pm
Even on Stormfront they think RooshV is a creep. (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t856407/)

A really nasty sex tourist from America (of Middle Eastern descent) has arrived in Tartu, Estonia. He came from Latvia after staying there a month or two. His goal is to lure into sex as many Estonian women as possible, especially very young girls. His name is Daryush Valizedeh, nickname - Roosh, and he is a pick up artist who believes women should be treated "like garbage". This includes beautiful, young white women of Baltic and Nordic descent.


The problem here is not sex itself, or travel for sex as such, but the guy's attitude - he has no respect for women and believes it is ok to manipulate them, use them and then denigrate them. He thinks it's ok to use the most beautiful women in the world [white women, if you weren't aware - Ed.] and treat them like garbage.

This is so surreal.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: cyclopeantrash on September 26, 2013, 10:54:39 pm
I am quite comfortable in assuming the overwhelming majority of MRAs are white. Just as Tumblrites desperately want the sympathy and moral high ground that comes with legitimate oppression, MRAs look down at their white male hands and think "why not me too?"
Isfahan, July 03, 2013, 06:09:43 pm

This is basically the most correct thing ever written. How does it feel being the philosopher that other philosophers wish they could be?
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Sherman Tank on December 14, 2015, 08:33:49 am
Well this was an infuriating one to listen to.

I'm curious though, did Portaxx ever learn what toilets are?
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Adam Bozarth on December 14, 2015, 10:51:29 am
MRA's are the group that has disturbed me and haunted me the most of any F Plus subject. They bring out my own form of Internet crazy. They make me want to write asinine solutions to the problem of them and their attitude.

Now more than ever, it feels like the MRA's are breeding potential predators, serial rapists, and mass shooters. The connection is tenuous, but they encourage isolating behavior and thought and that anger and loneliness turn into some of the ugliest things imaginable. All hate speech is harmful, but to start blaming your problems and unhappiness on not just a religion or a country or an ethnicity, but a gender? Half the population of earth? That's a lot of people to hate. That fucks with the already fucked up brains of men (white men, right?) ages 13-25. I mean, it's already happened this year! Whose to say it won't happen again? These men are a hate group and with that comes real world violence.

Another crazy thing that happens when I think about these idiots is how to solve the problem of self-imposed hate-virginity. I start fantasizing about dosing these morons with LSD at an MRA convention so they can sob into their wicker fedoras and ask themselves some deep questions locked deep in their heads. I think about making a TV show where we try to unfuck their stupid thoughts, give them a decent haircut, get them to eat a vegetable or two? See what life is like when you drink water instead of fucking soda all day?

These people bother me so much because I think all young men who feel a bit lonely know that impulse to blame other people for your feelings. No one is telling you otherwise, because you're by yourself all the time. Another absolutely insane idea is to steal Amaterdam's sex education system.

When I was blogging for a hot second this year, I did this story on Amaterdam's sex education system. It's called "Love Week," and it starts in kindergarten and goes throughout a student's education. As a kindergartener, you talk about love and friendships, what's it mean to love someone, that sort of thing. As you get older, Love Week evolves, so you learn about how to properly show affection, what's not acceptable in a loving relationship, how to start a dating relationship and be respectful of each other. Then again, America (I mean Texas) would fuck this curriculum up somehow. But even fucked up Texas Love Week would be better than the acquiescence we have to hate. We just live with it.

I'm glad we did this episode when we did, but I think if we did it now, it would feel like reading ISIS's social media.

Just love each other, folks, OK? I love you weirdos and I want you to love this world. I know how crazy that sounds.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: goombapolice on December 14, 2015, 11:49:26 am
The hateful rhetoric of MRAs is absolutely breeding people that hate and scheme. I can guarantee you the MRA echo chamber is responsible for more than one rape or murder, and they should absolutely be shut down.

I read Elliot Rodger's manifesto. The entire thing. He was a spoiled little shit growing up and his parents did absolutely nothing to stop it until it was far too late. You can almost see the moment when he was radicalized by this hate group. He always felt like he was entitled to women, and it made him bitter when they didn't flock to him in droves. Instead of having that hard moment where he found out he was the problem, the MRAs stepped in and assured him that all those spoiled cunts (read, all women everywhere) were withholding happiness from him. So he devolved to a bizarre power fantasy where he would have all women in concentration camps, and then when he realized that he would never get that  power, that women would never find him as attractive as he found  himself to be, (seriously, all he wanted wanted in a girlfriend was a walking doll that showed everyone around him how good he was) did the last thing he could to grab what little power he could.

Luckily this broken country allows anyone to get a gun, no questions asked pretty much. Enough power to eke out revenge on an undeserving target. Women and men who had women.

I want to compile a list of all the blood on MRA group's hands. I want to have them associated with white supremacists and other such groups that exist just to make people suffer. They're fucking scum.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: A Meat on December 14, 2015, 01:08:38 pm
The main thing I don't get with MRAs is what they're aiming for really and why. I've read enough about them to understand the way they act and some of the supposed mechanics of it, but I don't get how they think what they're doing is going to solve any of their problems. I understand how people are snared into thinking that way. I'm pretty sure that if I wasn't aware of why I'm fucked up I could have become something resembling that, since I'm probably right in the recruitable demographic of young middle class single white males.

If they're lonely why are they searching for people to prey on? Don't they want someone to really understand them and like them? I'm so bothered by the MRA way of life that I have trouble formulating my thoughts on the subject. Do they think pussy will solve all their problems? What happens once they get the pussy? Do they just think they need more to solve their problems? I don't fucking get it.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on December 14, 2015, 02:46:37 pm
MRA Dilbert (http://mradilbert.tumblr.com/)

I couldn't think of a better place to put this.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/e7f1c91cfdfa221617457dea2ec6a0b4/tumblr_nyymj8Q4Hz1umctw4o1_1280.png)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: LINDA on December 14, 2015, 03:18:47 pm
Sometimes I listen to the old misogyny episodes just to remember a time before these turds started murdering people.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: chai tea latte on December 14, 2015, 04:53:30 pm
MRA Dilbert (http://mradilbert.tumblr.com/)

I couldn't think of a better place to put this.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/e7f1c91cfdfa221617457dea2ec6a0b4/tumblr_nyymj8Q4Hz1umctw4o1_1280.png)
jack chick, December 14, 2015, 02:46:37 pm
lemon, please let me bulb this post? wow
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/08a1da26f50bfde0cc1120d62d0de0b7/tumblr_nyjj6k2rNt1umctw4o1_1280.png)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: Lemon on December 14, 2015, 05:11:35 pm
Sorry, can't hear you.

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/d3268ab869b3e4b61c8f1a7923c317e8/tumblr_ny89gfiENZ1umctw4o1_1280.png)
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: EYE OF ZA on December 14, 2015, 06:46:53 pm
The main thing I don't get with MRAs is what they're aiming for really and why. I've read enough about them to understand the way they act and some of the supposed mechanics of it, but I don't get how they think what they're doing is going to solve any of their problems. I understand how people are snared into thinking that way. I'm pretty sure that if I wasn't aware of why I'm fucked up I could have become something resembling that, since I'm probably right in the recruitable demographic of young middle class single white males.

If they're lonely why are they searching for people to prey on? Don't they want someone to really understand them and like them? I'm so bothered by the MRA way of life that I have trouble formulating my thoughts on the subject. Do they think pussy will solve all their problems? What happens once they get the pussy? Do they just think they need more to solve their problems? I don't fucking get it.
A Meat, December 14, 2015, 01:08:38 pm

They don't want someone to understand them and like them, they want someone to validate them.  They believe that relationships between men and women are inherently antagonistic, because women only want the reproductive fitness and social status that a man can give them.  Because that's all women really care about, they can't have a woman who's as independent or actualized as they are--a woman like that is just going to use them.  Therefore, the ideal woman is one that's subservient to them, so that they can use her.  It's okay for men to use women like that, because women are inherently different and less suited to being in control than men are, because women are just slaves to their impulses.

That's their mindset.  It's fucking dumb, but through confirmation bias and anecdotal evidence, they reinforce their own beliefs until it's just a given that, yeah, women are emotional animals that are only trying to out-compete all other women and just see men as tools to achieve that.

They don't want companionship and understanding because they don't think women are capable of giving that.  MRA stuff comes a lot of the time with brotherhood/fraternity/male friendship idealization, too.  Either they don't see the companionship as a part of other peoples' relationships, or they assume that it's something false that the women are putting on in order to keep the men under their control.

The problem in their mind isn't just that they're not getting laid, though I have seen MRAs saying that some weird egalitarian distribution of getting laid would be good for society.  It's that women are controlling who's getting laid, and that's not right, because when women have that control, they'll do things like refuse to have sex with their husbands and cheat on them on the side.  And that when women have jobs and independence, it means they're not as reliant on their husbands, so they can't coerce women into sex any more.  I guess if you boil it down, their problem is that you can't just do a one-time Sex Acquisition and get all the exclusive sex you want guaranteed forever.
Title: Episode 103: Adam Carolla Would Look Better In A Burqa
Post by: EYE OF ZA on February 18, 2019, 08:44:15 am
Is this what they meant by "cock carousel"
https://twitter.com/SoeurFoune/status/1096493827366490112