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Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Lemon on January 01, 2019, 01:38:38 pm
(https://thefpl.us/episode/294/telenoid_660.jpg) (https://thefpl.us/episode/294)
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Lumbermouth on January 01, 2019, 03:50:34 pm
Oh no I scrolled down!
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on January 01, 2019, 05:21:44 pm
Hell of a way to ring in the new year.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Wrought on January 01, 2019, 05:46:39 pm
Dr. Robot, Deep Learner Extraordinaire: I diagnose you with Kramer
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: KingKalamari on January 01, 2019, 07:55:41 pm
What I love about this episode is that each new topic lasts just long enough for the listener to forget the whole "Love and sex with robots" angle, so whenever it loops back to the robot-fucking you're like: "Oh right! These guys also want to fuck robots!"
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Ambious on January 02, 2019, 02:40:40 am
I kept expecting my Robotics professor to be mentioned because it wouldn't have surprised me one bit if he had been.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Sherman Tank on January 02, 2019, 07:21:32 am
I'm just posting to show off my latest username.

EDIT: 6mm nano-tag suggestions: "conservatives", "drama queens", "fetishes", "fuck machines", "fucking on a pile of junk", "great britain's greatest perverts", "jiggle physics", "questionable problem-solving", "science fiction is now science fact"
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Cheapskate on January 02, 2019, 09:06:26 pm
(https://thefpl.us/episode/294/telenoid_660.jpg) (https://thefpl.us/episode/294)
Lemon, January 01, 2019, 01:38:38 pm

Didn’t Mulder and Scully investigate this when they went to Springfield?

(Also, curious they cite Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes as a free speech advocate when he’s the guy who wrote the opinion that said it’s OK to jail someone for opposing the draft. Unless, like some purported free speech advocates, they’re insincere.)
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: EYE OF ZA on January 02, 2019, 11:56:20 pm
When people like this complain about free speech, they're actually complaining about having consequences for their speech.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: LINDA on January 03, 2019, 07:21:07 am
excited for when elon musk rolls out his version of the kissenger and hugvie for the tesla workforce when he discovers that human beings require physical and emotional intimacy
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: A Meat on January 03, 2019, 07:35:20 am
can we name all future robot orifices after US secretaries of state?
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: EYE OF ZA on January 03, 2019, 07:43:11 am
can we name all future robot orifices after US secretaries of state?
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:35:20 am
My sex robot has a strategically-placed Powell.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: A Meat on January 03, 2019, 07:59:41 am
can we name all future robot orifices after US secretaries of state?
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:35:20 am
My sex robot has a strategically-placed Powell.
SATAN MILKSHAKE, January 03, 2019, 07:43:11 am
put your P in the Shultz
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on January 03, 2019, 12:54:56 pm
I've always been baffled by the rash of anti-intellectualism in the west, until I heard about this Prof. Levy*. When mid level intellectuals are making a living on scam technology and scam conferences its a wonder more people aren't burning books.

EDIT: * noted robot fucker
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Cheapskate on January 03, 2019, 05:05:54 pm
can we name all future robot orifices after US secretaries of state?
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:35:20 am
My sex robot has a strategically-placed Powell.
SATAN MILKSHAKE, January 03, 2019, 07:43:11 am
put your P in the Shultz
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:59:41 am

I’ll Root your Elihu.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Sherman Tank on January 04, 2019, 08:07:45 am
can we name all future robot orifices after US secretaries of state?
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:35:20 am
My sex robot has a strategically-placed Powell.
SATAN MILKSHAKE, January 03, 2019, 07:43:11 am
put your P in the Shultz
A Meat, January 03, 2019, 07:59:41 am

I’ll Root your Elihu.
Cheapskate, January 03, 2019, 05:05:54 pm

I'll Hamilton your Fish.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Frank West on January 08, 2019, 03:38:52 pm
I think you guys are all being really unfair on the subject of AI/human relationships. Let's ask another expert in the field what his opinion is (https://blog.dilbert.com/2018/02/23/can-humans-computers-mate-babies/).
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Knitting Machine on January 13, 2019, 09:01:54 am
"We need to do a scientific study on females" has kept a smile on my face all day. Just the image of men in lab coats staring intensely at a woman holding a roomba brings me such joy
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Neal on January 20, 2019, 07:03:45 pm
https://futurism.com/the-byte/digisexuals-love-lust-robots
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Alraunecorn on January 25, 2019, 10:02:33 am
In this episode I learned that Steve Bannon is a Force Majeure.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on February 24, 2019, 08:42:26 pm
Finally got around to watching Ex Machina and before that this popped up in my YouTube suggestions.
So I guess I have to relisten to this one since it is occupying my headspace again.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Frank West on April 10, 2019, 10:56:31 pm
https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1115763461919838208

Tee hee
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: xX_sp00ks_Xx on August 26, 2019, 12:49:03 pm
http://2019.phpce.eu/en/

Here's a URL I'm posting here about phpCE, not really connected to the ACE conference or the F+ episode. It's really quite unlike anything in this thread, I don't even know why I'm posting this URL here, very weird.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Lemon on August 26, 2019, 01:20:25 pm
http://2019.phpce.eu/en/

Here's a URL I'm posting here about phpCE, not really connected to the ACE conference or the F+ episode. It's really quite unlike anything in this thread, I don't even know why I'm posting this URL here, very weird.
Spooks, August 26, 2019, 12:49:03 pm

Yuck, what a mess.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Lemon on August 29, 2020, 10:11:59 am
The 2020 Conference is online, my friends! VERY online.

http://loveandsexwithrobots.org/

It's a virtual conference happening in December, and there's still an open call for papers.

Submit now, and you could win.....

(https://i.imgur.com/w5CdWNq.png?1)

Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Tipsy Almond on September 06, 2020, 10:05:55 pm
They look like plucked, headless chickens DEAR GOD
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Puppy Time on September 06, 2020, 10:58:26 pm
They look like plucked, headless chickens DEAR GOD
Tipsy Almond, September 06, 2020, 10:05:55 pm

"Jumping into bed with a robot would very likely kill you"

I... what?

I do appreciate the goofy spreadeagle pose they're stored in.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on September 07, 2020, 07:08:10 am
We found one male sex bot so its not sexist see. See? SEE!?
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: KingKalamari on September 07, 2020, 12:55:17 pm
They look like plucked, headless chickens DEAR GOD
Tipsy Almond, September 06, 2020, 10:05:55 pm

To quote the 1981 animated schlock epic Heavy Metal: "Earth women who experience sexual ecstasy with mechanical assistance always tend to feel guilty!"

For critics concerned about how sexbots objectify women, this might seem like a victory

I'm gonna be honest, I don't feel like that's the objection most critics actually have with this. It's really more a case of womanifying objects...

The biggest issue to me, at least on a philosophical level, is the fact that the end goal of this whole affair is to create beings capable of complex thought for the sole purpose of fucking them? I realize current AI technology is nowhere near the point of replicating human thought processes, but as presented the aim of these sexbots is creating as humanlike a fuckslave as possible, which is a really morally dubious endeavor, regardless of the gender of the fuckslave.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Puppy Time on September 07, 2020, 01:58:50 pm
I personally feel like, if someone wants an AI fuckslave, they should probably have one and keep them away from humans.

Like, unless we get a weird scifi situation of Suddenly Computar Become Humanlike, it's most likely just a reasonable facsimile of human interaction and not a being capable of suffering.  I'm AOK with someone being a major creep as long as the only victim is themself. 
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: xX_sp00ks_Xx on September 07, 2020, 02:41:17 pm
I'm just morally offended that the question DO WE REALLY WANT A MALE SEXBOT WITH A BIONIC PENIS? is presented as not self-evidently answerable.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: chai tea latte on September 07, 2020, 02:59:01 pm
I personally feel like, if someone wants an AI fuckslave, they should probably have one and keep them away from humans.

Like, unless we get a weird scifi situation of Suddenly Computar Become Humanlike, it's most likely just a reasonable facsimile of human interaction and not a being capable of suffering.  I'm AOK with someone being a major creep as long as the only victim is themself.
Puppy Time, September 07, 2020, 01:58:50 pm
From a story in Stanislaw Lem's brilliant Cyberiad, where a robot creator-god (trurl) has designed a world of simulacrae for a tyrant to torture, and his homie Klapaucius is pissed off at Trurl:
"If an imperfect imitator, wishing to inflict pain, were to build himself a crude idol of wood or wax, and further give it some makeshift semblance of a sentient being, his torture of the thing would be a paltry mockery indeed! But consider a succession of improvements on this practice! Consider the next sculptor, who builds a doll with a recording in its belly, that it may groan beneath his blows; consider a doll which, when beaten, begs for mercy, no longer a crude idol, but a homeostat; consider a doll that sheds tears, a doll that bleeds, a doll that fears death, though it also longs for the peace that only death can bring! Don't you see, when the imitator is perfect, so must be the imitation, and the semblance becomes the truth, the pretense a reality!
[...]
You say there's no way of knowing whether Excelsius's subjects groan, when beaten, purely because of the electrons hopping about inside - like wheels grinding out the mimicry of a voice - or whether they really groan, that is, because they honestly experience the pain? A pretty distinction, this! No, Trurl, a sufferer is not one who hands you his suffering, that you may touch it, weigh it, bite it like a coin; a sufferer is one who behaves like a sufferer! Prove to me here and now, once and for all, that they do not feel, that they do not think, that they do not in any way exist as being conscious of their enclosure between the two abysses of oblivion-the abyss before birth and the abyss that follows death-prove this to me, Trurl, and I'll leave you be! Prove that you only imitated suffering, and did not create it!
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: chai tea latte on September 07, 2020, 03:04:16 pm
also, I will be attending the VR sex robot conference.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Puppy Time on September 07, 2020, 03:56:19 pm
I personally feel like, if someone wants an AI fuckslave, they should probably have one and keep them away from humans.

Like, unless we get a weird scifi situation of Suddenly Computar Become Humanlike, it's most likely just a reasonable facsimile of human interaction and not a being capable of suffering.  I'm AOK with someone being a major creep as long as the only victim is themself.
Puppy Time, September 07, 2020, 01:58:50 pm
From a story in Stanislaw Lem's brilliant Cyberiad, where a robot creator-god (trurl) has designed a world of simulacrae for a tyrant to torture, and his homie Klapaucius is pissed off at Trurl:
"If an imperfect imitator, wishing to inflict pain, were to build himself a crude idol of wood or wax, and further give it some makeshift semblance of a sentient being, his torture of the thing would be a paltry mockery indeed! But consider a succession of improvements on this practice! Consider the next sculptor, who builds a doll with a recording in its belly, that it may groan beneath his blows; consider a doll which, when beaten, begs for mercy, no longer a crude idol, but a homeostat; consider a doll that sheds tears, a doll that bleeds, a doll that fears death, though it also longs for the peace that only death can bring! Don't you see, when the imitator is perfect, so must be the imitation, and the semblance becomes the truth, the pretense a reality!
[...]
You say there's no way of knowing whether Excelsius's subjects groan, when beaten, purely because of the electrons hopping about inside - like wheels grinding out the mimicry of a voice - or whether they really groan, that is, because they honestly experience the pain? A pretty distinction, this! No, Trurl, a sufferer is not one who hands you his suffering, that you may touch it, weigh it, bite it like a coin; a sufferer is one who behaves like a sufferer! Prove to me here and now, once and for all, that they do not feel, that they do not think, that they do not in any way exist as being conscious of their enclosure between the two abysses of oblivion-the abyss before birth and the abyss that follows death-prove this to me, Trurl, and I'll leave you be! Prove that you only imitated suffering, and did not create it!
chai tea latte, September 07, 2020, 02:59:01 pm

I feel like this sort of argument is in the same vein as, like, "If you shoot doodz in a video game, it is the same as shooting actual people, because they react like people."  There's more to suffering and sentience than just responding to input in a preprogrammed way. 
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Antivehicular on September 07, 2020, 04:55:40 pm
Female sex dolls: Beautiful women, fully articulated faces, eye movement
Male sex dolls: Gray headless torsos hanging on the wall like a meatpacking plant, will have "bionic penises" that will kill us

Awesome! Sex-positive!
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Hoffgod on November 18, 2020, 07:18:43 am
More drama! If you go to the homepage for the upcoming International Love and Sex with Robots Conference (https://loveandsexwithrobots.org/) and scroll down, you see this:
(https://i.imgur.com/C1oTupN.png)
Looking on Archive.org, it appears this happened sometime between October 7th and November 8th. No "new web site" is linked and a few searches turned up nothing.

Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Lemon on November 18, 2020, 01:47:35 pm
So, David Levy's name is conspicuously absent from that alphabetical list of names, leading me to assume this is a rift between Levy and Cheok.

Now I want to know more!

The only thing I do know is that this site is on the Mixed Reality Lab server, so while Cheok may have resigned from the conference, he's still hosting the website.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Hoffgod on April 21, 2021, 08:11:54 pm
Something made me remember this was a thing, so I decided to look back into it. They did eventually make a new website (https://www.lovewithrobots.com/) which was designed on Wix, as the top banner is eager to tell you. The next conference is set for August 18-20, 2021, over Zoom. The only recognizable name on the committee (https://www.lovewithrobots.com/committee) is David Levy. The history section (https://www.lovewithrobots.com/genesis) says nothing of this falling out. Of the 2018 debacle, it only says "The fourth conference had been due to take place in 2018 in Montana, but had to be postponed."

Also, look at their list of keynote speakers (https://www.lovewithrobots.com/speakers). The shift between the first three speakers and the fourth one gave me whiplash.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Antivehicular on April 21, 2021, 08:54:08 pm
Also, look at their list of keynote speakers (https://www.lovewithrobots.com/speakers). The shift between the first three speakers and the fourth one gave me whiplash.
Hoffgod, April 21, 2021, 08:11:54 pm
A guy describing himself as "in a polyamorous relationship" with multiple sex dolls is the saddest, most hilarious thing. Does he pose them making out with each other? What am I saying? Of course he does.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Mix on April 22, 2021, 02:00:53 am
fun fact, that dude was on my strange addiction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XSeHmygz9c)
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Semantic Weeb on April 22, 2021, 12:35:36 pm
His realdolls have realdolls!

(https://i.imgur.com/7SuAoY7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AfYkFzJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/C0XaDxU.png)

(the middle one tweets in Russian)

EDIT: made this to better understand their relationship:
(https://i.imgur.com/KntKRpC.png)
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: KingKalamari on April 22, 2021, 03:21:06 pm
So I was going to make a post about Davecat's unfortunate choice in hairstyles...

(https://i.imgur.com/pm14ONw.jpg)

...But after reading his bio I have decided that haircut is the perfect choice for someone with his life goals and general personality. It really tells you everything you need to know about him at first glance!

As a side note: I've been listening to a bunch of true crime podcasts lately and after delving into the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer and Dennis Nilsen I've sort of come to the conscious realization that, when you actually think about the logistics of someone fucking one of these things, there's not much functional difference between a RealDoll and the sort of idealized fantasy those dudes had of a dead body.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on April 22, 2021, 04:30:56 pm
Gee if only someone had been sitting on a Davecat doc for quite some time...

hmmm.....


......HMMMMMMMMMMMM...........

^_^
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Salubrious Rex on April 22, 2021, 08:32:56 pm
Oh shit, I know about Davecat! I remember both times I saw him on television, once on My Strange Addictions and the other time on the documentary The Mechanical Bride which you could actually buy or rent on steam for a while (https://store.steampowered.com/app/413210/The_Mechanical_Bride/).
It's weird to have a realdoll fetishist that I recognise by name, not sure how I feel about that.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: Antivehicular on April 23, 2021, 12:11:04 am
https://twitter.com/fakedyanne04/status/1382880910387912705

This one contains multitudes:
1) Another one of Davecat's doll accounts replies to this to keep trash-talking his tastes in movies. He replies to flirt with that account.
2) Multiple non-Davecat sex doll accounts reply.
3) This is the first Tweet on this account in six months.
Title: 294: Steve Bannon Ruined Your Sex Robot Conference
Post by: A Meat on April 23, 2021, 03:33:33 am
https://twitter.com/fakedyanne04/status/1382880910387912705

This one contains multitudes:
1) Another one of Davecat's doll accounts replies to this to keep trash-talking his tastes in movies. He replies to flirt with that account.
2) Multiple non-Davecat sex doll accounts reply.
3) This is the first Tweet on this account in six months.
Antivehicular, April 23, 2021, 12:11:04 am
4) the tin drum is a story about a child who refuses to grow up