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Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Lemon on February 22, 2015, 12:17:36 pm
with Boots Raingear Jack Chick Frank West Acierocolotl and Lemon
content for this episode was compiled by Fanzay
edited by Lemon.

Luscious.net is a (hentai focused) pornographic website where members can do the things they usually do on a pornographic website - by which I mean set up a profile, argue about politics, and complain about problems getting laid. This week, The F Plus figures out that gender just isn't a big deal really.

MUSIC USED:
Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye
DEVO - Jerkin' Back N Forth
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Fanzay on February 22, 2015, 12:33:45 pm
I would encourage everyone to read the doc, there is way more crazy shit there than you heard in the episode. That said, don't actually go to luscious.

I had a lot of fun making the doc!
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: KingKalamari on February 22, 2015, 01:18:41 pm
I feel like if this site's userbase were embodied as a single person it would be two kids standing on each other's shoulders in a long trenchcoat.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Puppy Time on February 22, 2015, 02:16:06 pm
Lemon, have you just captured everyone and locked them in your basement to do your terrible podcast bidding?  Is that why we've had such a bounty of material lately?
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Geremy Tibbles on February 22, 2015, 03:17:24 pm
15 minutes in and we have a wonderfully textbook case of "shit that never happened"!

EDIT: Holy fuck these people are stupid.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Bobalay on February 22, 2015, 04:33:04 pm
hearing another human being say the word 'loli' is always the worst.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: count_actuala on February 22, 2015, 04:46:32 pm
What'd Bunnybread say last episode? Men should be put to death?

That needs to be a tag at this point.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Bobalay on February 22, 2015, 07:32:54 pm
What'd Bunnybread say last episode? Men should be put to death?

That needs to be a tag at this point.
count_actuala, February 22, 2015, 04:46:32 pm

Same for "as an intellectual"
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Odd on February 22, 2015, 11:35:17 pm
This episode was a bit of a sample platter of groups of perverts that are large enough to be considered their own thing apart from the "mainstream hentai masturbators".

The "giving up porn was a waste of time" guy's rant used quotes from a 4chan sub-subculture that preaches the evils of masturbating to pornography because of "the effects this has on your dopamine and testosterone".
Yes there is a sub-subculture of 4chaners who go around telling other 4chaners to masturbate less.

And the  "Her Pussy Smelled Like Fish." guy is not alone either. Among the many manifestations of all the problems affecting Japan's birthrate is the open declaration of many men and women that they find physical sex revolting.
It happens to singles:
http://www.medindia.net/news/Government-Says-Young-Japanese-Losing-Sex-Drive-79507-1.htm (http://www.medindia.net/news/Government-Says-Young-Japanese-Losing-Sex-Drive-79507-1.htm)
And when it happens to married couples they call it "sex disgust syndrome". It is all explained in this delightful article full of depressing quotes:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/31/national/married-or-single-japan-is-a-desolate-country/#.VOq4Ey6Q9xA (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/31/national/married-or-single-japan-is-a-desolate-country/#.VOq4Ey6Q9xA)

Not ALL of them masturbate to cartoon porn exclusively, I'm sure, but I'm sure in some cases that could be a leading factor. Behind the horrible living conditions, work hours, cost of living and the saving-face-and-being-proper lifestyle.
But of course what could be said about Japan's sexuality could fill a book. A depressing, disgusting book that read aloud could summon a tentacle monster and make him vomit his lunch into his non-Euclidean porcelain throne.
Do you want to ask me about the phenomenon of Japanese mothers helping their children "focus" for university entrance exams? Of course you do not.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Mister Smalls on February 22, 2015, 11:40:27 pm
Do you want to ask me about the phenomenon of Japanese mothers helping their children "focus" for university entrance exams? Of course you do not.
Odd, February 22, 2015, 11:35:17 pm

I think you might have confused your porn tab with your world-news tab.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Odd on February 22, 2015, 11:50:55 pm
Do you want to ask me about the phenomenon of Japanese mothers helping their children "focus" for university entrance exams? Of course you do not.
Odd, February 22, 2015, 11:35:17 pm

I think you might have confused your porn tab with your world-news tab.
Mister Smalls, February 22, 2015, 11:40:27 pm
When it comes to Japan, they can be the same. But that bit could be an urban rumor of the kind written by people who have that fetish and pretend it happens so they can write "kinky" stories about it.
Similarly a lot of the people who claim they have lost all interest in sex with their spouses may be having affairs at love hotels.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: montrith on February 23, 2015, 03:24:53 am
Porn connoisseurs remain one of the most shining examples "Completely broken inside". I mean, it's really, really obvious that what some of these guys really want is the affection and intimacy of a real relationship, but instead of going out and trying to meet people they bitch about people not writing porn that gets them emotionally invested. A regular person will just have a wank and then go on with his actual life, but these guys cannot separate their need for physical gratification from their need to actually connect with other people. It's quite sad if you think about it.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on February 23, 2015, 05:14:54 am
The "giving up porn was a waste of time" guy's rant used quotes from a 4chan sub-subculture that preaches the evils of masturbating to pornography because of "the effects this has on your dopamine and testosterone".
Yes there is a sub-subculture of 4chaners who go around telling other 4chaners to masturbate less.
Odd, February 22, 2015, 11:35:17 pm

There's a whole bunch of places like this. Reddit has one too and NoFap.com has a fairly large forum full of success stories and advice from "fapstronauts."
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Knitting Machine on February 23, 2015, 08:59:10 am
I've listened to that segment three times and I still do not understand anything that happened in that transsexuality post.
Alpha Starsquatch, February 23, 2015, 08:35:15 am

I got that Letdown is the worst person, and I think that's the most important lesson of all.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Cat Planet on February 23, 2015, 09:10:00 am
The "giving up porn was a waste of time" guy's rant used quotes from a 4chan sub-subculture that preaches the evils of masturbating to pornography because of "the effects this has on your dopamine and testosterone".
Yes there is a sub-subculture of 4chaners who go around telling other 4chaners to masturbate less.
Odd, February 22, 2015, 11:35:17 pm

There's a whole bunch of places like this. Reddit has one too and NoFap.com has a fairly large forum full of success stories and advice from "fapstronauts."
moooo566, February 23, 2015, 05:14:54 am

Yeah after reading a couple of links I feel like there is definitely potential for an episode here. I'll try getting a document together in my spare time. These people are really weird because they realized the problem ("I sit at home jacking off all day") but instead of, you know, going out and talking to women so they could have real sex they try to create some sort of internet monastic order where they suppress their own sex drive and do things to distract themselves from it. Because it's easier to go on a "nofap regiment" and keep a "nofap diary" than to find a lady who will let you stick it inside her,
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on February 23, 2015, 02:27:07 pm
  "Cutesy Term for Something Disgusting or Sexual"
Mique, February 23, 2015, 01:22:28 pm
It's pretty widely "accepted" by now, but that's kind of how "fap" started out.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Fanzay on February 23, 2015, 03:07:30 pm
I was really surprised at how little this episode talked about actual hentai. There's this whole community on a website dedicated to a specific fetish, yet so many people are so desperate for people to listen to them that they want to post about anything else.
It's like they think, "hey, these other people share at least one of my interests! Maybe that means they share ALL of my interests and are interested about me!" It's been a running theme in most episodes about specific communities, but it still manages to surprise me how people stick around after masturbating to talk about something unrelated to masturbating.

Incidentally, is there anything in this episode that would count as "Cutesy Term for Something Disgusting or Sexual" or "Nerdy Jargon that Needs Long Explanation" because I am one away from a Bingo. There's some nerdy jargon, but it didn't really need a long explanation that I saw.
Mique, February 23, 2015, 01:22:28 pm

The fact that they talk mainly about everything except hentai on a hentai site is the document's raison d'ĂȘtre. That's not to say that there's not a lot of "discussion" (for lack of a better word) of hentai on the site, but I wanted to showcase the width of the spectrum of blog postsstupidity.

If you want nerdy jargon that needs long explanation, I put in a post on (and don't google this term) "omorashi" in the doc.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Neal on February 23, 2015, 03:33:23 pm
If you want nerdy jargon that needs long explanation, I put in a post on (and don't google this term) "omorashi" in the doc.
Fanzay, February 23, 2015, 03:07:30 pm

's already been an episode, yo. (http://thefpl.us/episode/84)
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Isfahan on February 23, 2015, 04:48:14 pm
Listening to that one story about the two girls leaving class to go have sex in the bathroom was like watching a porno in fast-forward. Also, she went from being a virgin to getting fisted in the same story? Are plausible sexual encounters just too tame once your porn-callous has gotten too thick?
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Puppy Time on February 23, 2015, 06:49:36 pm
Listening to that one story about the two girls leaving class to go have sex in the bathroom was like watching a porno in fast-forward. Also, she went from being a virgin to getting fisted in the same story? Are plausible sexual encounters just too tame once your porn-callous has gotten too thick?
Isfahan, February 23, 2015, 04:48:14 pm

Hentai doesn't seem to go for plausible sexual encounters in general.  I assume it's one of those situations like regular internet porn sites, where they're catering so much to a niche audience that things just get more and more weird until it's only distinguishable from a horror movie by the color of the fluids.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: A Meat on February 24, 2015, 07:09:50 am
I'm glad this episode happened, because I tried to make a doc from a different hentai discussion forum, and I just got really annoyed and grossed out instead of finding anything funny. This episode was so much funnier than what I would have found, probably because these people don't really talk about hentai at all. The impression I got when trying to mine this kind of content, is that most of these losers are really young, as in mid teens to early twenties, at least as according to them.

 I just see this and the Superwholock and One Direction stuff as a way that the internet has failed my generation, it's just that easy to come across the wrong kind of framework for your masturbation, and if you're already socially maladjusted, it might fuck you up real bad.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Puppy Time on February 24, 2015, 09:49:48 am
Hentai doesn't seem to go for plausible sexual encounters in general.  I assume it's one of those situations like regular internet porn sites, where they're catering so much to a niche audience that things just get more and more weird until it's only distinguishable from a horror movie by the color of the fluids.
Puppy Time, February 23, 2015, 06:49:36 pm

You might not want to look up "guro" if you want to continue believing that it can be at all distinguishable.
Mique, February 23, 2015, 09:45:58 pm

I don't really feel like guro goes in the same category, since even most misogynist consumers of porn aren't fetishizing snuff so much as humiliation.  I'm talking about a sort of pornographic Overton Window, where the audience in general seem to be going for weirder stuff but treating it like it's normal.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: crow on February 24, 2015, 10:51:36 am
Hentai doesn't seem to go for plausible sexual encounters in general.  I assume it's one of those situations like regular internet porn sites, where they're catering so much to a niche audience that things just get more and more weird until it's only distinguishable from a horror movie by the color of the fluids.
Puppy Time, February 23, 2015, 06:49:36 pm

You might not want to look up "guro" if you want to continue believing that it can be at all distinguishable.
Mique, February 23, 2015, 09:45:58 pm

Guro is a real life art movement and isn't just porn; it's related to Weimar Republic avant-garde art.  One of the best Japanese novelists ever, Junichiro Tanizaki, wrote an Ero-Guro novel called The Secret History of the Lord of Musashi.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Bobalay on February 24, 2015, 05:17:47 pm
Hentai doesn't seem to go for plausible sexual encounters in general.  I assume it's one of those situations like regular internet porn sites, where they're catering so much to a niche audience that things just get more and more weird until it's only distinguishable from a horror movie by the color of the fluids.
Puppy Time, February 23, 2015, 06:49:36 pm

You might not want to look up "guro" if you want to continue believing that it can be at all distinguishable.
Mique, February 23, 2015, 09:45:58 pm

Guro is a real life art movement and isn't just porn; it's related to Weimar Republic avant-garde art.  One of the best Japanese novelists ever, Junichiro Tanizaki, wrote an Ero-Guro novel called The Secret History of the Lord of Musashi.
Smoking Crow, February 24, 2015, 10:51:36 am

go to church lol
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: crow on February 24, 2015, 05:24:34 pm
Hentai doesn't seem to go for plausible sexual encounters in general.  I assume it's one of those situations like regular internet porn sites, where they're catering so much to a niche audience that things just get more and more weird until it's only distinguishable from a horror movie by the color of the fluids.
Puppy Time, February 23, 2015, 06:49:36 pm

You might not want to look up "guro" if you want to continue believing that it can be at all distinguishable.
Mique, February 23, 2015, 09:45:58 pm

Guro is a real life art movement and isn't just porn; it's related to Weimar Republic avant-garde art.  One of the best Japanese novelists ever, Junichiro Tanizaki, wrote an Ero-Guro novel called The Secret History of the Lord of Musashi.
Smoking Crow, February 24, 2015, 10:51:36 am

go to church lol
Bobalay, February 24, 2015, 05:17:47 pm

It's cancelled today due to a foot of snow
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Sovereign on February 24, 2015, 06:37:07 pm
Is it just me or do these porny stories that totally happened always become extremely formulaic, yet the userbase never fails to eat it up? Like that forum with the people who like to lift others into the air, or pretty much every fplus episode ever. Seriously, you could probably program a website to write these things and these people would still get off to it. It's like they have 4 or 5 specific scenarios they love and they just plug them into the middle of a vague story-like structure, like some kind of horrible oreo. I'm sure it's foolish of me to expect subtlety or nuance from people who get their rocks off to a couple lines and pink dots but they could at least try.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Fanzay on February 24, 2015, 06:39:28 pm
You mean like a Markov bot for porn? Pretty sure that already exists.


's already been an episode, yo. (http://thefpl.us/episode/84)
Neal, February 23, 2015, 03:33:23 pm

Of course it has.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Lemon on February 24, 2015, 07:07:40 pm
I'm sure it's foolish of me to expect subtlety or nuance from people who get their rocks off to a couple lines and pink dots but they could at least try.
Sovereign, February 24, 2015, 06:37:07 pm

Does this bother you as an intellectual?
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Sovereign on February 24, 2015, 07:40:38 pm
I'm sure it's foolish of me to expect subtlety or nuance from people who get their rocks off to a couple lines and pink dots but they could at least try.
Sovereign, February 24, 2015, 06:37:07 pm

Does this bother you as an intellectual?
Lemon, February 24, 2015, 07:07:40 pm
Goddammit, I guess I better write porn now.

I'm half tempted to start some kind of hentai writer's guild or the equivalent of a Hugo award ceremony just so I can make a doc out of it next year and send it in to be read.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Odd on February 24, 2015, 08:00:37 pm
This episode was so much funnier than what I would have found, probably because these people don't really talk about hentai at all. The impression I got when trying to mine this kind of content, is that most of these losers are really young, as in mid teens to early twenties, at least as according to them.A Meat, February 24, 2015, 07:09:50 am

That's because as far as I can tell Luscious is just reposting content from other places so you are therefore looking at a group of consumers set apart from the people who actually spend time and money getting porn from Japan and translating it. The kind of people who learn Japanese to understand porn stories.

I don't know any specifics but I have heard that there is a lot of drama in "doujin-translation circles". Fights about who should have the "rights" to translate what, people reposting content elsewhere without the pages identifying the translation team, and so on.
I do know there was some kind of big legal strike down because a western online sales portal for erotic comics acquired the legal rights for a bunch of stuff and then proceeded to email cease-and-desist letters to people who were translating the porn that now belonged to them, all while using those translations to lazily do their own by changing only a few words. SCANDAL.

If you want to go somewhere closer to the source, stick your nose into the fountain of cartoon smegma, you would probably want to take a look at the E-Hentai forums or Gelbooru Forums. That's where all the cool kids translating porn or getting it straight off Pixiv (Japan's Deviantart) hangout.

BONUS ROUND OF FACTS:
E-Hentai even has a "Sadpanda" section so called because unless you first do X, Y, and Z to register properly all you will see when you are linked to that section is a picture of a Sadpanda. That's where they keep all the stuff that has "Copyright Issues", is blatantly stolen from western paysites, or is just too gross for the mainstream sections.

ThereMoreYouKnow_ShittingDickNipples.jpg

or the equivalent of a Hugo award ceremony just so I can make a doc out of it next year and send it in to be read.
Sovereign, February 24, 2015, 07:40:38 pm
I'm pretty sure those sorts of awards have been around since at least the LiveJournal era. Every niche shipping community had their own contests and awards for the best fanfiction written that year, both erotic and just plain rooooomantic.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: A Meat on February 25, 2015, 07:36:55 am

If you want to go somewhere closer to the source, stick your nose into the fountain of cartoon smegma, you would probably want to take a look at the E-Hentai forums or Gelbooru Forums. That's where all the cool kids translating porn or getting it straight off Pixiv (Japan's Deviantart) hangout.

BONUS ROUND OF FACTS:
E-Hentai even has a "Sadpanda" section so called because unless you first do X, Y, and Z to register properly all you will see when you are linked to that section is a picture of a Sadpanda. That's where they keep all the stuff that has "Copyright Issues", is blatantly stolen from western paysites, or is just too gross for the mainstream sections.

ThereMoreYouKnow_ShittingDickNipples.jpg

Odd, February 24, 2015, 08:00:37 pm

Hahaha, I've tried, but I couldn't bear sifting through the forum for funny content, and not aggravating shit like most of it is (take a peek at the "Serious Debates" sub-forum, it's the worst). I did see more cartoon pony porn than I had wanted to, and I learned that people have no trouble talking about lolicon or cartoon bestiality as if it was a normal thing that nobody is grossed out by. Heck, I even bothered creating an account, like I do with most forums I try to mine for content, but that way I could see the avatars and signatures, which in this case happened to be very terrible. I would really like for someone to put in the effort and try to make a proper episode out of the e-hentai forums, because I find them legit fascinating with how big and active they are, as well as the weird browser game they have incorporated into the site. But I've given up, I have better sites I want to mine and half a dozen other unfinished docs sitting on my drive.

Someone else needs to take up the smegma-encrusted torch.

By the way, I'd recommend to everyone who doesn't know about e-hentai to take a peek at the front page of their forum(probably NSFW) (http://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=idx) and prepare for a shock, because I just did and guess what:
2285 user(s) active in the past 30 minutes
1137 guests, 1139 members 9 anonymous members
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Cat Planet on February 25, 2015, 07:45:04 am
I have never understood people who have strong opinions about porn that they need to discuss, or invest weeks of their free time into the creation of the Realistic Taints mod in Skyrim. Why do they care about porn when they are not aroused? And if they are, why are they not jerking off to it? Or are they constantly beating off while writing forum posts with the other hand?
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Sovereign on February 25, 2015, 09:02:37 am
These fetishists and sub-communities are all about making the simplest things extremely complicated. Personally I think everyone would be happier if they adhered to the jack it and forget it philosophy of life.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Puppy Time on February 25, 2015, 02:52:50 pm
I have never understood people who have strong opinions about porn that they need to discuss, or invest weeks of their free time into the creation of the Realistic Taints mod in Skyrim. Why do they care about porn when they are not aroused? And if they are, why are they not jerking off to it? Or are they constantly beating off while writing forum posts with the other hand?
Cat Planet, February 25, 2015, 07:45:04 am

You know those people who, when asked "Can I go to the bathroom?" answer, "I don't know, CAN YOU?"

This is what happens when they go through puberty without going outside or talking to people. 

There's just a subset of really monster cock monster cock people who can't fucking stand it when something doesn't conform to their rules.  They can be found in any group of enthusiasts of whatever, so it's no surprise that there's someone really fucking passionate about the Right Way to enjoy shittily drawn and animated porn.

ETA:
By the way, I'd recommend to everyone who doesn't know about e-hentai to take a peek at the front page of their forum(probably NSFW) (http://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=idx) and prepare for a shock, because I just did and guess what:
2285 user(s) active in the past 30 minutes
1137 guests, 1139 members 9 anonymous members
A Meat, February 25, 2015, 07:36:55 am

Among those members:
hornyrage123
Guy under a bridge
god is good
the siner
2012deadday
Boobiielover
TW1ZTER
lazyskunk
humpybunny
someone unkown
Oniichan yamete (translation: "Big brother stop")
the real life nepeta
UppityEagle
hugeone
nnnaaahhh
clop

I love forum usernames in general, but sex stuff seems to have the funniest.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Mister Smalls on February 25, 2015, 05:20:07 pm
This episode probably had the worst people in F Plus history.

This fun combination of incredible stupidity and the worst fucking opinions ever led to me shouting things out loud at my laptop while the episode was playing.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Cat Planet on February 25, 2015, 05:23:09 pm
The trans rant guy is such a 9 year old. Oh, a person irritated me, I'm going to piss on their toilet seat to spite them.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Fanzay on February 26, 2015, 07:14:43 am
This episode probably had the worst people in F Plus history.

This fun combination of incredible stupidity and the worst fucking opinions ever led to me shouting things out loud at my laptop while the episode was playing.
Mister Smalls, February 25, 2015, 05:20:07 pm

You're welcome!
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Nikaer Drekin on February 26, 2015, 07:45:01 am
There's just a subset of really monster cock monster cock people
Puppy Time, February 25, 2015, 02:52:50 pm

This really should be a word filter. It might only come up once in a thousand posts, but it would be absolutely delightful when it does.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Lemon on February 26, 2015, 09:27:57 am
That is a terrific idea. And it has been implemented.
Title: Episode #167: Hentaint Misbehavin
Post by: Cat Planet on February 26, 2015, 09:31:57 am
You know, the monster cock guy from adultdvdtalk.com just typed his angry rant about monster cocks to vent some steam and forget about it... however, now he's been immortalized.