Episode 116: Does An Ellipsis Count As Three Words?

[chai tea latte]

Wait did you just confess to reading a pedo manga

[cube abuser]

why do you know so much about pedophile incest animes?

[Bobalay]

Cartoon incest porn.

...Delcat, is that you?

[count_actuala]

1. Light novels are basically novellas printed cheaply for teen audiences. They're pulp. The styles and genres are geared toward the audience, but they're a lot more varied than what you'll find on a site for fan translations by gross otaku. They predate the concept of cellphones, but some stories originally written on cellphones have been printed in the format after achieving success online.

2. Thanks for that gross story, you're misinformed AND bad at judging what you should share!

[Yossarian]

Thanks for your comparison of bad writing styles, I will now shame you for sharing a thing that I clearly know more about

[Runic]

I don't know a goddamn thing about Japanese cell phone books, but I will say that rarely is an entire medium uniformly awful. There are probably some things in that genre that are worth reading just like there are some sci-fi and fantasy books worth reading, or some anime worth watching. So we probably shouldn't assume that someone is terrible just because they are familiar with those things in general.

Detailed knowledge of a thing where underage siblings fuck is still kind of a red flag mind you, but the medium itself might not be.

[Goose Goose Honk At Me Now]

Detailed knowledge of a thing where underage siblings fuck is still kind of a red flag mind you, but the medium itself might not be.

There are a TON of light novels that are nerdy but not weird-fetishy. About five minutes of research will turn up some titles that don't have underage cartoon siblings fucking.

[count_actuala]

Detailed knowledge of a thing where underage siblings fuck is still kind of a red flag mind you, but the medium itself might not be.

There are a TON of light novels that are nerdy but not weird-fetishy. About five minutes of research will turn up some titles that don't have underage cartoon siblings fucking.

P much. Google, 'light novel wiki,' scroll, scroll, oh okay.

[Odd]

Wait did you just confess to reading a pedo manga

I could give you three different answer about how I know the things I know:

• A boring truth.
• An interesting lie.
• What you want to hear.

Cartoon incest porn.

...Delcat, is that you?

No I am Odd and have always been Odd except in the long-gone past when I was somebody else who got banned from Portalofevil.com. Lets not derail this discussion.

There are a TON of light novels that are nerdy but not weird-fetishy. About five minutes of research will turn up some titles that don't have underage cartoon siblings fucking.

Yes, but why would you bother?
But alright, can somebody recommend me a Japanese light novel that doesn't suck-ass and/or satisfy a fetish? Preferably something I can pirate or get off the web. I am in enough government lists as it is.

[Sherlockian]

Yes, but why would you bother?
But alright, can somebody recommend me a Japanese light novel that doesn't suck-ass and/or satisfy a fetish? Preferably something I can pirate or get off the web. I am in enough government lists as it is.

Here are light novels I know are well-received, and do not contain sex:

"Durarara!!", a horror thriller about a bunch of teenagers and a centuries old Irish ghost with no head.  Also the "Baccano!" series, by the same author, is a non-linear fantasy about train robbers and demon summoning.  "Kyoukai no Kanata" is about demon fighting high schoolers and is ridiculous but well-written.  The "Haruhi Suzumiya" series is also popular, well-written as well as officially licensed and sold in English.

"Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop" is arguably decently written, even if it screws up a decade of fanon.

And how broadly are we defining "satisfy a fetish" here?  Both "Gosick" and "The Mystic Archives of Dantalion" are fantasy mysteries with, but they also feature the brilliant, if tsundere, underage moe girl and her older minder tropes. "High Speed" is a serious, and kind of depressing, novel about a high school swim team but the anime based on it (Free!) is aimed hardcore at yaoi fans.  The "Fate/(&)" novels are great, but are based on a visual novel that has erogame elements (that is to say, there's no porn in the novels, but there are two versions of the game and one has sex). 

Literature is literature, dude. It's just pulpy fiction for easy consumption, not some weird underground fetish thing.

[Odd]

Here are light novels I know are well-received, and do not contain sex:

"Durarara!!", a horror thriller about a bunch of teenagers and a centuries old Irish ghost with no head. Also the "Baccano!" series, by the same author, is a non-linear fantasy about train robbers and demon summoning.

Is this a good translation of that light novel, "Dararara!!"?
http://anni-fiesta.livejournal.com/4169.html#
Because I may be too dumb to understand the intricacies of Light Novels, but this snippet reads remarkably similarly to the one I posted as an example. Down to the abuse of... ellipses.

"Kyoukai no Kanata" is about demon fighting high schoolers and is ridiculous but well-written.

This is better but...

She threw open the door of a nearby supply closet and leapt into it to hide. She must've gotten her foot caught in a bucket or something, judging from the awful clatter that followed.  She fell back into the hall, covered in brooms and mops and things of that ilk.  In a situation like that, your typical adolescent male might try to look up her skirt. I, on the other hand, would not. No, I was far more concerned about her red-rimmed glasses - had they fallen off? Did something fall on them and break them?  Seeing that they were unharmed, I felt a kind of subtle delight slowly welling up within me. That was no time to be laughing out of relief, of course. I knew that she didn't want to hear me say it, but I said it anyway.

"Are you okay?"

She slowly lifted her upper body off the ground.

As she adjusted her glasses, she replied, "Oh, Kanbara. What a coincidence."

"Coincidence, my foot! If 'it was a coincidence' was a good enough explanation of why you just fell out of a supply closet, 'What a coincidence!' would be the motto of trespassers everywhere!"

"This is unpleasant."

...I still see similarities in storytelling between this and the kind of stories that were read in this episode of the podcast.

And how broadly are we defining "satisfy a fetish" here?  Both "Gosick" and "The Mystic Archives of Dantalion" are fantasy mysteries with, but they also feature the brilliant, if tsundere, underage moe girl and her older minder tropes. "High Speed" is a serious, and kind of depressing, novel about a high school swim team but the anime based on it (Free!) is aimed hardcore at yaoi fans.  The "Fate/(&)" novels are great, but are based on a visual novel that has erogame elements (that is to say, there's no porn in the novels, but there are two versions of the game and one has sex). 

Literature is literature, dude. It's just pulpy fiction for easy consumption, not some weird underground fetish thing.

I would say that "satisfying a fetish" means that the novel was intended to satisfy a niche of fetishists so certain aspects of the story or qualities of the characters are repeated and remarked upon in a way that doesn't actually contribute to building a good plot or storytelling atmosphere.

[count_actuala]

You're correct, Jesus, A+, gold star, move on.

[Sherlockian]

"Kyoukai no Kanata" is about demon fighting high schoolers and is ridiculous but well-written.

This is better but...

...I still see similarities in storytelling between this and the kind of stories that were read in this episode of the podcast.

Support your thesis better.

On second thought, don't bother.

[Odd]

"Kyoukai no Kanata" is about demon fighting high schoolers and is ridiculous but well-written.

This is better but...

...I still see similarities in storytelling between this and the kind of stories that were read in this episode of the podcast.

Support your thesis better.

On second thought, don't bother.

A disorderly first person perspective that that jumbles too frequently the actions presently occurring with the random thoughts and jokes of the narrator, very often using referential humor. Multi-sentence paragraphs are exceedingly rare, with single-sentences being the norm. The conversations are also very unnaturally scripted, with one joke setup quickly following another.
It reads badly.

On third thought don't bother to respond. I am declaring myself right.

[chai tea latte]

I took a look at a couple of the light novels mentioned and didn't see anything that looked great, just probably better-than-others.

Aldo Odd, the correct answer was and always has been 'yeah, that's gross, someone just finished telling me about how awful it was and I thought I'd share', regardless of if that's true or not. Wisecracking about watchlists...did not help your case.

Anyways, new topic - what the shit is up with terrible nerds and wanting things they make to be trilogies? There are way too many of these people for it to be simple coincidence. This comes up in the kickstarter episode too, iirc.