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Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lemon on January 26, 2013, 05:22:56 pm
Parenting, as many have said, is a difficult task. But it's a task that's made significantly simpler if you just decide you'll let your children do whatever they want. We're exploring the forums of mothering.com, a place where mothers can gather to discuss raising the single most brilliant and unique person the world has ever known, but it turns out there's quite a few of them. This week, we're stocking up on Placenta Helper.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Delcat on February 11, 2013, 07:02:11 am
There was a minor explosion on Tumblr because of the use of "cunt" in this episode.  I actually took a week off from Tumblr because of it.  I let Portaxx know, but did the rest of you catch any of that?
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lady Naga on February 11, 2013, 10:38:55 am
There was a minor explosion on Tumblr because of the use of "cunt" in this episode.  I actually took a week off from Tumblr because of it.  I let Portaxx know, but did the rest of you catch any of that?
Delcat, February 11, 2013, 07:02:11 am

There's a "minor explosion" on Tumblr over fucking anything. I'm actually fairly surprised that "Tumblrites" still listen to the 'cast after the headmates episode. Unless it's just to complain about shit.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: montrith on February 11, 2013, 10:52:42 am
There was a minor explosion on Tumblr because of the use of "cunt" in this episode.  I actually took a week off from Tumblr because of it.  I let Portaxx know, but did the rest of you catch any of that?
Delcat, February 11, 2013, 07:02:11 am

There's a "minor explosion" on Tumblr over fucking anything. I'm actually fairly surprised that "Tumblrites" still listen to the 'cast after the headmates episode. Unless it's just to complain about shit.
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 10:38:55 am

Are you kidding? Dumblres love to complain. It's their whole reason for existing. They probably secretly love the podcast, since it gives them more stuff to be upset about. Only happy Tumblr user is an insulted Tumblr user.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lady Naga on February 11, 2013, 11:10:08 am
There was a minor explosion on Tumblr because of the use of "cunt" in this episode.  I actually took a week off from Tumblr because of it.  I let Portaxx know, but did the rest of you catch any of that?
Delcat, February 11, 2013, 07:02:11 am

There's a "minor explosion" on Tumblr over fucking anything. I'm actually fairly surprised that "Tumblrites" still listen to the 'cast after the headmates episode. Unless it's just to complain about shit.
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 10:38:55 am

Are you kidding? Dumblres love to complain. It's their whole reason for existing. They probably secretly love the podcast, since it gives them more stuff to be upset about. Only happy Tumblr user is an insulted Tumblr user.
montrith, February 11, 2013, 10:52:42 am

Hey come on that's not entirely true. They don't complain about Dr.Who.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: chai tea latte on February 11, 2013, 11:51:05 am
There was a minor explosion on Tumblr because of the use of "cunt" in this episode.  I actually took a week off from Tumblr because of it.  I let Portaxx know, but did the rest of you catch any of that?
Delcat, February 11, 2013, 07:02:11 am

There's a "minor explosion" on Tumblr over fucking anything. I'm actually fairly surprised that "Tumblrites" still listen to the 'cast after the headmates episode. Unless it's just to complain about shit.
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 10:38:55 am

Are you kidding? Dumblres love to complain. It's their whole reason for existing. They probably secretly love the podcast, since it gives them more stuff to be upset about. Only happy Tumblr user is an insulted Tumblr user.
montrith, February 11, 2013, 10:52:42 am

Hey come on that's not entirely true. They don't complain about Dr.Who.
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 11:10:08 am
People are still (http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/susan%20the%20horse) talking about Susan The Transgender Horse Who Was Misgendered.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: montrith on February 11, 2013, 12:09:06 pm
Hey come on that's not entirely true. They don't complain about Dr.Who.
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 11:10:08 am

Gimme ten seconds and I'll prove you wrong.

Oh, look. It only took five.
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Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on February 11, 2013, 01:11:08 pm
And now we show you The Strange Case of Cuntgate (as Lemon called it). Again I'll remind everyone to NOT harass anyone over this.

But one of the girls who was upset about this was also very mad because she thought... well... I'll let her 80 billion liveblogs of her listening experience sum it up:

- "hearing someone on an audio recording use the word “cunt” and your immediate reaction is, out loud, “WHOA BRO HEY” even though it’s only a recording"

- "i mean i don’t want to tread on your freedom to make fun of people who eat placenta or anything but i don’t think you need to call them “dumb cunts”"

- "i—- i really wish you wouldn’t—-

i mean yeah they’re doing pretty questionable stuff but you’re a dude and it’s kind of weird for you to be using gendered insults like a bludgeon like that

call them stupid, fine, but what does them being women have to do with it!

dude

dude!!!

dude!!!!!!  that’s like the 5th time stop"

- "and i’m over here posting this on tumblr because i feel like if i emailed these people about it they would laugh it off and call me a cunt too"

- "i mean they’re getting angry about perfectly legitimate things to be angry about but i really wish this guy’s nuclear-option insult wasn’t “vagina-haver”"

- "it’s like,

wow dude, what did vagina ever do to you

(besides spew you out into this uncaring world i guess)"

So yes, this person was convinced, throughout the entirety of the episode, that I was a guy. Someone told her I was a plain ol' cisgendered female, and it basically fried her brain. She was simultaneously flabbergasted that a woman would dare use that word and mortified that she misgendered me 18 times in a row even though it was an honest mistake. Despite her multiple angry, snarky potshots at me, she immediately did a 180 and reverted into "omg I wanna apologize for misgendering I'm so scared though talking to people is hard I hate confrontation I'm a scared little mouse made of delicate flower petals waaahhh ;_;" Regardless, I opted to not string her up and leave her to the Tumblrhounds, and instead told her to not sweat it. I also attempted to set up a joke about reclaiming the word for cunts everywhere, but nobody took the bait. Boo.

I have a Tumblr myself and I almost never use it, but I figured this was the most appropriate response to that: http://jazaaboo.tumblr.com/post/41187395334/because-im-on-tumblr

Some other angry little apids have expressed a lot of outrage on how I'm clearly a huge misogynist and how someone should do something about that awful asshole Portaxx, but since this is Tumblr, there's just been a lot of talk and no action. Because you see, nobody's ever had the stones to contact me directly about their grievances.

TW: MENTIONS OF "HAVING STONES" AS IT RELATES TO BRAVERY, AS IF BRAVERY IS A PURELY MALE TRAIT OMGGG PORTAXX YOU HATE ALL THE WOMEN OMG I JUST. I CAN'T. I'M SO DONE.

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ANIMATED GIF EXPRESSING MY DISGUST
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Isfahan on February 11, 2013, 07:02:43 pm
TW: MENTIONS OF "HAVING STONES" AS IT RELATES TO BRAVERY, AS IF BRAVERY IS A PURELY MALE TRAIT OMGGG PORTAXX YOU HATE ALL THE WOMEN OMG I JUST. I CAN'T. I'M SO DONE.

(http://conquent.com/bissellator/blogimg/dancing_baby.gif)

ANIMATED GIF EXPRESSING MY DISGUST
portaxx, February 11, 2013, 01:11:08 pm

I think the term used against Tumblrites should be "huevos," since that way it's both Spanish slang for "testicles" and literally translates into "eggs." If someone claims you're being misogynist, just say you meant it as "eggs." As a bonus, it works well as doubting the reproductive ability of the person in question, regardless of gender!
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 11, 2013, 07:09:53 pm
I'm totally gonna riff on Isfahan's idea here, but think you should go with the French, "gosses," being "testicles" if you're Quebecois, and "kids" otherwise.  You can choose to piss off tumblerites OR childhardcorefreebird wankery with the simple flip of the explanation switch.  Genius!
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lady Naga on February 11, 2013, 09:04:43 pm
On a side note, I thought the title at first was "We Don't Need No Uneducation" as a reference to Another Brick In The Wall

(Chrome doesn't recognize uneducation as a word. Funny, that!)
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lemon on February 11, 2013, 10:20:12 pm
On a side note, I thought the title at first was "We Don't Need No Uneducation" as a reference to Another Brick In The Wall
Lady Naga, February 11, 2013, 09:04:43 pm
It's still a reference to Another Brick In The Wall, just with less unbad grammar.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Delcat on February 12, 2013, 12:05:45 pm
I liked the part where they got everyone angry by making it out like you were using it because people were eating placentas and not because people were actively ruining the lives of children.

I mean, fuck, it's not my favorite word either, but good GOD did I get pissed off over that.  I've heard the phrase "tone argument" used a bajillion times in SJ circles but apparently they can't be arsed to use it when they're doing the arguing.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: JT on February 12, 2013, 02:18:36 pm
Is it even possible to do or say a thing that isn't offending somebody on Tumblr? Not too long ago I saw this post (http://watchful-entity.tumblr.com/post/41917531958/teagankgb-hidden-agender-osobigbear) and I literally wanted to die. They should just call the site Sanctimoniousteenagemalcontentr.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2013, 02:45:25 pm
Again, the whole point of Tumblrite attention-seeking is to Make Posts™. If you don't Make Posts™, you don't get attention, and nobody pays attention to someone who's content. You gotta read shit and then deliberately interpret it in the way which allows you to get the most offended and do the most complaining (see Angry Angry Hippos), because that's what brings in the sympathy of other people who choose to misinterpret shit in the same way. Together you all can sit around and pretend the emperor has no clothes together!

As a bonus, you also get the ire of people who want to correct you or argue with you. Since you took a logical leap in your interpretation, you know others will pick up on it, but not necessarily on the fact that you yourself are aware of it. More attention! It's a win-win!
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 12, 2013, 02:59:56 pm
Again, the whole point of Tumblrite attention-seeking is to Make Posts™. Isfahan, February 12, 2013, 02:45:25 pm

My theory is pity-mongery.  It's similar on the surface, but bear me out.

Ultimately, we all* want social interaction in one flavour or another.  Ideally, it should be positive social interaction.  An easy way to get that is to elicit feelings of pity and attendant "comfort" that follows.  (I used comfort as a verb, like you were playing one of those old Zork games:  comfort isfahan).

From there, it just self-reinforces.  More victimization gets more pity gets more comfort-flavoured social interaction.  I'm not sure this spiralling is really conscious, because it's just so patently ridiculous but there's enough examples of it out there that it's a real phenomenon.

I personally knew a man like that, who enjoyed nothing save playing online text-based roleplaying games, and parlayed these characters into MPD for the pity, and when that got played out, anted up with satanic ritual abuse, and when THAT started failing, started making up really disgusting medical conditions.  I don't know how that finished, he hasn't left much Internet spoor to track him by any longer.

Anyway, where this gets pathetic is with the kinda-weird highschool (and early college-aged) crowd, who haven't really anything more piteous than a love of fantasy to draw from.  That particular downward victimization-spiral results into such gold, like elven concentration camp survivor stories.

* near as matters, all of us, anyway.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2013, 03:39:36 pm
comfort isfahanAcierocolotl, February 12, 2013, 02:59:56 pm

Isfahan is comforted, and feels better about the life choices which led him to post obsessively about fake things on Tumblr. His were-cuttlefish kinfeels take over once more, but this time, instead of crying about it to anonymous strangers on the Internet, he simply basks in the simple warmth of manly, frot-free friendship.

Unfortunately, Great White is playing the nightclub in which you are currently sitting, and they have brought a lot of flashpots.

You scored 17 out of 682 points.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lemon on February 12, 2013, 07:01:18 pm
Again, the whole point of Tumblrite attention-seeking is to Make Posts™. If you don't Make Posts™, you don't get attention, and nobody pays attention to someone who's content.
Just so you know, your post-per-day ratio is 11.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2013, 07:28:42 pm
THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE I HAVE VALUABLE INSIGHT ON NEARLY EVERYTHING AND IT MUST BE SHARED

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Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Delcat on February 13, 2013, 07:06:57 am
Portaxx, I love it when you vent righteous anger.

It's absolutely a giant pissing contest.  The more oppressed points you rack up, the more seriously you're taken.  Are white cisgendered males the statistically least oppressed and most powerful group?  Yes.  But that doesn't mean they don't have problems.

It's a powerful, toxic mindset that gets let loose in echo chambers, and that's hell of dangerous.  When your business model is "Your problem isn't valid because someone else has a bigger problem", not only do you inevitably lose to some starving paraplegic kid in a third-world nation, but insecure people (who make up a good chunk of the SJ population) start downplaying their own issues because they're afraid of offending someone.  I spent a long fucking time in my life going "Oh, I was verbally and emotionally abused as a child, but it's not like I was physically or sexually abused" because of the insecurity stemming from that abuse.  By the time I figured out that the last dang' place you want to have a point system is victimization, I'd already lost far too much time grappling with inferiority and depression.  And that is the mindset that they propagate.

It's the most fucked-up backwards logic in the world, it honestly is.

Oh, uh...tw: abuse strong opinions italics I guess
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lady Naga on February 13, 2013, 11:38:35 am
Yes but can I exchange my oppression points for air miles?
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Adept on February 13, 2013, 01:44:59 pm
Portaxx, you hit it right on the nose with that post. Every time I see a post about the word 'stupid' being a form of ableist oppression, or people railing against The Hawkeye Initiative (portraying male comic book characters in female comic book poses to hilight the absurdity of them) because it's 'transphobic', I die a little inside. These people really are more in it for the thrill of the hunt and the desire to be some sort of overbearing paladins of what they percieve as social justice than they are interested in genuine, real-world solutions to social problems. Not even content with real problems, many of them have gone off to make up their own problems (multis, otherkin, etc), and have hijacked terminology from the LGBT movement to do it. These people are just that hungry for the sort of attention that the whole game gets them.

I'm also annoyed that they've hijacked the term 'Social Justice' to do so. Fuck them for diluting the concept to this sort of monster cock-retentive hypersensitivity.

I just can't wait for this generation of tumblerites to grow up. Seriously, that should cure them of this circle-jerk mentality, right?

... right?
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
Post by: Lady Naga on February 13, 2013, 03:16:32 pm
n

The only thing that'll make them grow up is if they'll ever have to face real oppression.
Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
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Title: Episode 92: We Don't Not Need No Uneducation
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