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Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Lemon on January 17, 2016, 07:16:09 pm
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Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Zekka on January 17, 2016, 07:52:49 pm
uh oh
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: YetAnotherAmber on January 17, 2016, 08:05:25 pm
I have to ask, is STOG Magical or Magikal?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: TurkeyPopulationGuessingMan on January 17, 2016, 10:54:44 pm
I was around the web in the early days, but strangely enough I never made it over to Portal of Evil. It is interesting to hear how it all came together.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Adam Bozarth on January 18, 2016, 12:34:40 am
Fun fact: Dan Lacey creates the cover art for Dan Warren's album Departures (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001Q8AQUO/). Dan W kindly let's us use his music for LHR. He's also a marine biologist!
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Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: chai tea latte on January 18, 2016, 02:15:49 am
This is really great. I love the oral history angle, some great anecdotes. Thanks for putting out such great stuff.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: chai tea latte on January 18, 2016, 04:31:03 am
I'm sorry for double posting but I forgot to use the phrase "gamer's hip clip show"
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Gyro on January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on January 18, 2016, 09:43:26 am
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am
If someone else does all the work, I'll join
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 09:48:17 am
So how did people here find the F Plus?  I don't really play games online so I had no idea about the early history.  I first heard about it when someone linked the (point to sclong) episode in the Poe-News thread where veryone was making fun of PUA (aka literally the only thing I ever paid any attention to on Poe-News).


To this day Watch Children is the only person I've encountered on the Internet who made me actually, literally angry in real life.  Fuck that guy, troll or not.

Good episode!


EDIT:

If someone else does all the work, I'll join

Me too.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: A Meat on January 18, 2016, 10:03:13 am
So is this where we post our unimportant and e/n origin stories? Because I knew of Lou from around Weekend Web was still happening regularly, which must have been like mid-late 2009 on something awful in old-GBS, which probably wasn't an appropriate place for a fourteen year old to lurk, but I kind of ended up there because teenagers gravitate towards stupid bullshit, and all this crazy forum shit just fascinated me instead of grossing me out, and somehow I didn't end up become some sort of dangerous deviant or a big bundle of directionless anger.

Anyways I didn't hear about the F+ until like two years later, and someone mentioned the F+ when talking about shitty creepypastas on PYF or something, and I've been hooked basically ever since. After listening to a few episodes that were new at the time, I did the stupid thing of listening to all the episodes in chronological order, without really knowing any of the backstory behind the podcast or anything really, but somehow I'm still here, and I even ended up finding weird shit on the internet, who'd have known.


Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Positronic on January 18, 2016, 10:19:13 am
Amputee episode is coming soon? [freakout]

Anyway, wow! I feel like such an internet baby. PoE was active before my time... I'm pretty sure my first tastes of atrocity tourism were deviantart snark communities on LJ and Chris-Chan, and I feel insanely guilty for laughing at both of those things now (...okay, I still laugh at fetishy stuff on dA but that's different).

I'll definitely agree that one of my favorite things about The F Plus is the replay value, and this episode proved that Baby Drug Pusher and BOY MEAT will make me laugh no matter how many times I hear them. Looking forward to part 2!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Gyro on January 18, 2016, 10:57:08 am
Anyway, wow! I feel like such an internet baby. PoE was active before my time... I'm pretty sure my first tastes of atrocity tourism were deviantart snark communities on LJ and Chris-Chan, and I feel insanely guilty for laughing at both of those things now (...okay, I still laugh at fetishy stuff on dA but that's different).
Positronic, January 18, 2016, 10:19:13 am

My introduction to crazy internet shit was Encyclopedia Dramatica in 2005 and, yes, you can shoot me (in fact, please do).
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Boots Raingear on January 18, 2016, 11:14:40 am
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am

I'll get the TF2 server back up and running, probably with all of my old mods.

We'll schedule a time to play.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 11:18:53 am
I really don't remember how I found PoE, it was the second forum I ever used (the World Wide Warez Board was the first, and I found that from a text file on a pirated floppy I got from my guitar teacher in high school).  I think it must have been from Seanbaby's NES page around 1999 or 2000, I don't think I actually submitted or posted until mid 2000 though.

EDIT: I forget what episode it was now, but a while back someone (Lemon?) had an aside about how statistically somebody out there must listen before bed and fall asleep with it still playing and have dreams about the subject of the episode.  That's me, although I haven't had dreams about it (yet).  pretty much only listen to it when I'm going to sleep.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Lemon on January 18, 2016, 11:25:55 am
My introduction to crazy internet shit was Encyclopedia Dramatica in 2005 and, yes, you can shoot me (in fact, please do).
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 10:57:08 am

There's very, very little record of Portal of Evil on the Internet anymore, so I wanted to list something in the show notes to explain perhaps a little better what the site was. Unfortunately, the closest I could come to that was the ED entry on PoE which is basically goatse and then the word fag a thousand times.

I haven't played TF2 in many years, is the core game the same? Or has the merch overtaken the central concept of cartoons shooting each other a lot?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on January 18, 2016, 11:56:08 am
So is this where we post our unimportant and e/n origin stories?
A Meat, January 18, 2016, 10:03:13 am
I used to listen to this YouTube series called "This Troper" where people read Troper Tales in silly voices. Found the Something Awful threads about TvTropes, and through them, The F-Plus
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Gyro on January 18, 2016, 12:26:14 pm
Unfortunately, the closest I could come to that was the ED entry on PoE which is basically goatse and then the word fag a thousand times.
Lemon, January 18, 2016, 11:25:55 am

You didn't need to specify the PoE entry, that's an apt description of every ED article ever.

I haven't played TF2 in many years, is the core game the same? Or has the merch overtaken the central concept of cartoons shooting each other a lot?
Lemon, January 18, 2016, 11:25:55 am
The core game is the same but there is no longer a cohesive visual style at all, and there's so much wacky shit people can shoot at you with that it's very hard to keep track of what the fuck is going on (even moreso than it was already).

I'll get the TF2 server back up and running, probably with all of my old mods.

We'll schedule a time to play.
Boots Raingear, January 18, 2016, 11:14:40 am
AW YISS

Please include the CTF map "Convoy," because that is my fetish.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 18, 2016, 12:27:13 pm
I seem to recall we read the j-lzrd meltdown post on tf2 at some point.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 12:59:50 pm
This (https://web.archive.org/web/19991127225201/http://portalofevil.com/) is the oldest PoE mirror I know of (if there's any record more complete than the scattered fragments on Archive.org I've never found it), and the second exhibit on the front page is

A Woman's Guide on How to Pee Standing Toaster
11/24/99 03:14:14 PM EST
Category:Education,General
Rating:8.34 Votes:9
5 Comments
Practice, practice, practice. With time, you too can know the sheer joy of a urine signature on a cold december morning. Almost as bizarre as the fact that there even is a restrooms.org.

Over 16 years later we're still laughing at how-to-pee guides (http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=1018.msg58840#msg58840).


EDIT: incidentally, it looks like the last submission on there, Too Many Breasts (https://web.archive.org/web/19991127232102/http://www.cyberium.net/multibrst/mbpage.htm) (obviously NSFW unless you work at The Last Resort), was pretty thoroughly archived.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Kaleidoscope on January 18, 2016, 01:28:54 pm
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am
If someone else does all the work, I'll join
AgentCoop, January 18, 2016, 09:43:26 am

Me too!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: LINDA on January 18, 2016, 01:40:19 pm
"I'm not going to explain what a furry is just kidding let me explain" is basically my role in the office now thanks to you guys and it brings me joy that I'm not the only one.

I explained what a SPH is to the owners of the company and somehow not only am I still employed but they have since given me a raise.

Great episode
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 18, 2016, 01:46:16 pm
OH YEAH speaking of that I got to explain to my therapist what a waifu was yesterday.

So that went well.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: EYE OF ZA on January 18, 2016, 01:50:59 pm
So how did people here find the F Plus?
Old_Zircon, January 18, 2016, 09:48:17 am

I used to browse TV Tropes a lot and also read the Something Awful front page.  I slowly realized how insufferable TV Tropes was, and around that same time I discovered the 'post your favorite thing to mock on the internet' thread on Post Your Favorite while the SA paywall was down.  I joined so I could post, and someone in that thread linked The F Plus.  I think it was either the MUD descriptions or the Malatora episode, because I remember listening to those first while spending Christmas break at my parents;' house.

It wasn't my first exposure to weird internet though, as I was pretty big into 4chan even earlier on, and I liked when they would dig up weird websites, and even earlier than that I remember hanging out on link aggregator sites that included stuff like that (like I think I-am-bored.com?)  I did some Encyclopedia Dramatica browsing, but that was insufferable in a different way from TV Tropes and I never got much into it.

Interesting that the Prime Directive came up as something specific to PoE back then, because from what I know of SA now, they're pretty big on their own version of it, alternatively called 'safari rule' or 'don't touch the poop', which are pretty self-explanatory.  I know that the site's gone through some pretty huge shifts since it's been around so long, though.


In the episode, you guys kind of touched on the 'why is this interesting' and I think it's because there's a dumb creativity to terrible internet that's fascinating.  That's why it doesn't matter so much if things are an act or not, because either way, they're tapping into that raw, dumb, idea-generation part of the brain that goes GARFIELD RIDING MOTORCYCLE or PUT A WATCH ON MY DICK or STATIONERY VOYAGERS. 
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on January 18, 2016, 02:23:33 pm
I had to explain to my friend (from Vietnam) what a furry was after a furry wearing a "free hugs" tshirt walked into the bowling alley where we were playing. She was very confused.

ETA: Holy shit, I just got reminded of the time where I was in a TF2 game, and I read the speech from "Atlas Shrugged" in a shitty Ben Stein impersonation.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Dawnswalker on January 18, 2016, 02:43:18 pm
I was in a shitty mood yesterday, and this episode made me feel better, so thanks!

I'm having a hard time remembering which episode was my first, how I found The F Plus, or anything like that, but I absolutely remember the time I nearly drove over a guardrail and into a (shallow) ditch while I was listening to Episode #100.

DORRANCE 5X STAINLESS STEEL HOOOOOOOOOOKS
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: memorylikeasieve on January 18, 2016, 03:02:46 pm
My first episode was, actually, the Transformers fic one, because a friend of mine wanted my roommate and me to listen to F+ and my roommate is a Transformers fan (as am I, but not as much).  I kinda liked it, but I didn't get hooked until they played the Clingfilm episode.

Now I listen to random episodes whenever I'm bored or feeling F-plussy.  This happens a lot. 
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Yavuz on January 18, 2016, 03:15:04 pm
I found the F-Plus through I Don't Even Own A Television, courtesy of Lemon's guest host spot on their "Candy Girl" episode. I'm also one of those people who listens to the podcast while trying to go to sleep. It's probably a good thing that I hardly ever remember my dreams.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Cheapskate on January 18, 2016, 03:20:59 pm
I lurked on PoE when I was in college. My site was featured on it (I was the Institute for Naming Children Humanely guy).

I came over here from the SA thread on TV Tropes.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Acierocolotl on January 18, 2016, 03:36:00 pm
I seem to recall we read the j-lzrd meltdown post on tf2 at some point.
jack chick, January 18, 2016, 12:27:13 pm

I had Lemon read his lines in that wondrous event, computer-synthesized jlzrd, spliced it together and called it done.  I still have it and his post-meltdown sequel, of course.  http://ao.kalimonster.net/audio/jlzrd/ (http://ao.kalimonster.net/audio/jlzrd/)

Referenced in the retrospective, but not linked:  World's Fastest Greatest.  The URL is martialart.org, and you can find it on archive.org or the waybackmachine or whatever you like.  Not saved were the enormous, autoplaying videos of him demonstrating his "prowess", which included falling down after a spinning kick, and bashing into walls when demonstrating active sparring.  Buuuuut google searches for things like "ACAMAC AristoAgon" shows this guy was still pushing his stuff a decade later.  Dedicated!  There's a reason he's my fave.

As an aside, well before Fplus, I sometimes amused myself by going to open mic poetry nights and reading weird shit. 
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 03:59:35 pm
Interesting that the Prime Directive came up as something specific to PoE back then, because from what I know of SA now, they're pretty big on their own version of it,
EYE OF ZA, January 18, 2016, 01:50:59 pm

At least as I experienced it at the time, back in the pre Poe-News era of PoE (so up until somewhere around the start of the second Bush term) SA was more like 4chan/ED at their peak, and PoE was a bit more like SA is now.  I never really spent much time on SA but if I'm not mistaken, weren't the early years of /b/'s culture mostly because that's where people who were banned from SA migrated to as SA moved away from its trolling roots?  When it first started to get big I used to hear that it was founded by "people from FYAD who were banned for being pedophiles."
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 04:17:08 pm

In the episode, you guys kind of touched on the 'why is this interesting' and I think it's because there's a dumb creativity to terrible internet that's fascinating.  That's why it doesn't matter so much if things are an act or not, because either way, they're tapping into that raw, dumb, idea-generation part of the brain that goes GARFIELD RIDING MOTORCYCLE or PUT A WATCH ON MY DICK or STATIONERY VOYAGERS.
EYE OF ZA, January 18, 2016, 01:50:59 pm

That's a pretty great observation.  I hate to use the word "authenticity" but I think it's a pretty appropriate term for what happens when people who lack the self-awareness/intellignece/social awareness to self-censor are set loose the way they are on the Internet.  It's kind of the same reason I usually find completely incompetent creative work more unironically compelling than a lot of "good" art, music, cinema, writing, whatever: they often accidentally transcend the medium in a way that competence and awareness of the audience and the orthodoxies of the form usually can't (except for the real masterworks).
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Sherman Tank on January 18, 2016, 05:10:04 pm
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am

I'll get the TF2 server back up and running, probably with all of my old mods.

We'll schedule a time to play.
Boots Raingear, January 18, 2016, 11:14:40 am

Yay Boots!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Cyberventurer on January 18, 2016, 05:20:18 pm
My first episode was the one about love dolls.  I checked out a thread about it on SA, spent about 2 minutes skimming the last page and quickly lost interest, but apparently at some point I had downloaded some random link that I planned on checking out later and forgot about.  I didn't get around to listening to it so it sat untouched for a couple of weeks, until I was deleting old files off of my computer and saw dollfuckers.mp3.  I must have listened to it half a dozen times before it dawned on me that I should try googling for "F Plus", which was up to episode 32 at the time and had that long hiatus between episodes.  I remember thinking the podcast died off from lack of interest and was really bummed out.

Maybe my standards for what's funny are a little low but I think you guys are too hard on yourselves over the older episodes.  They may not be as high quality as the newer stuff (especially microphone noise) but I think most of the old jokes and stuff are still enjoyable.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: eldritchhat on January 18, 2016, 06:43:18 pm
I actually found the F Plus just by randomly searching iTunes, cause at that point I was only listening to the 'Super Best Friendcast (http://"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/super-best-friendcast!/id688649759?mt=2")' and the 'Giant Bombcast (http://"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/giant-bombcast/id274450056?mt=2"),' and I wanted to expand my repertoire. I was really into [ghost] creepypasta [ghost] for like three years then, and I often listened to readings of them from some dork named mr.creepypasta, so I was really excited when I found episode 68 (http://thefpl.us/episode/68).

I don't know if I was more hooked when Portaxx said 'Jacques Scarrida,' or when they read 'day of all the blood.' Either way, it's still one of my favorite episodes.

Besides that, and a few other examples, I'm mostly like Lemon in that I discover the things I like by back-tracing references from other things I like. Before this podcast, I was a fan of MST3K, and hadn't done much atrocity tourism. I'd dabbled in it a little bit, with my best friend and I just searching weird shit on google, but I was never on POE because I am way too young for that. In fact, Ballp.it is the first forum I have ever been on, and I suppose that's appropriate, as it's the forum for my favorite podcast.

Also, I wonder how many people actually made STOG's rendition of 'PARTY PARTY PARTY' their ringtone? I ripped it using garageband, and I still wake up to his sensuous voice every morning.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: LINDA on January 18, 2016, 07:16:49 pm
My first episode was adult babies, sent to me by a friend. (though the current episode at the time was 126) We are still friends and I'm still here, so that worked out.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Aljonso on January 18, 2016, 07:18:04 pm
I don't remember exactly how I found this place, but I do remember my first episode being Dozerfleet. I remember being completely floored about the likes of the AIDS lick and how this guy could make an entire wiki out of nothing. I would put more episodes on in the background of XCOM and Borderlands, and I now have very strange mental connection of certain levels with specific moments in certain episodes (I can't think about Baron Flynt without thinking of "Fucking the Car Hot", or more recently, I can't play Moray Towers without thinking of the first time I heard "Are Enough Man").

Whenever I would see an episode and think, "That looks really gross, I probably shouldn't listen to this one, but eh, what the hell," I'm usually very glad I listened, and it turns up being one of my favorite episodes. Wedgie and F-list have so many moments I love. The only time I really regretted it was with dickbugs, and even then it's only because of the maggots. I guess I just have a high tolerance for internet stupid and gross.

But the thing I like the most about this podcast comes from what Lemon mentioned about Chris-Chan. Sonichu is still just as stupidly hilarious as ever, but I can't help but look at this continued meddling with Chris's personal life with disgust, and it's clear that all the people that corresponded with Chris have kept us from more issues of Sonichu. I'm really thankful that this place isn't the full-on bully cesspool KiwiFarms is, and for whatever you've done to keep Ballp.it from becoming that. In a way, I'm really glad Fplus is the size that it is. Just large enough to noticeable, and just small enough to keep out of view of 99% of its subjects.

So, yeah, thanks for the 200 episodes, here's to another 200.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Sherman Tank on January 18, 2016, 07:28:54 pm
I don't even remember what my first episode was, I just remember it was one of those subjects like Dozerfleet or Malatora that first surfaced on the Something Awful forums and ended up being an F Plus subject because of the odd cross-pollination that happens between the two.

Also I have a real soft spot in my heart for Episode 1. It reminds me of the KTMA episodes of MST3K, and I say this as a compliment because I love those too, because it's all rough and half-baked but you can see the brilliance of the idea. Also "Adonis eats tampons" will never not be funny. That's probably the reason I went through all the trouble of editing this old clip cover to make the cover art:
(http://i.imgur.com/Xc1cc5G.jpg)
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 07:41:09 pm
Maybe my standards for what's funny are a little low but I think you guys are too hard on yourselves over the older episodes.  They may not be as high quality as the newer stuff (especially microphone noise) but I think most of the old jokes and stuff are still enjoyable.
Cyberventurer, January 18, 2016, 05:20:18 pm

I actually agree, there are a few slow parts early on but I usually like the early episodes quite a bit. 
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: QueenSyreen on January 18, 2016, 08:14:20 pm
I already know that I will not be able to listen tot he acne episode, goodbye.

I've been listening to the F Plus for Too Long now. The reason I even found it... the story is long, but I'll summarize it by saying that since age Ridiculous I have been a fan of literally everything Zarla Sheenaza can possibly output. I enjoy her existence and what comes out of it. But I never listened to and still usually don't listen to podcasts, because listening to one only takes up half my brainspace and I get twitchy and have to do something with my hands and trainwreck. So when Zarla would occasionally mention a podcast in her journal, something about readings from the internet? Whatever? I didn't pay attention. Not my thing. Draw something gay again.

But then there was this weird thing she made. Like, ten seconds of animation. It's so many years back that I'll never find it to link it. There's a guy getting his haircut, a few seconds of that, and then the sound of running footsteps and stick figure man who is fucking bugging out runs screaming into the room and bellows IWASWONDERINGIFTHEREWASAFANFIUCTIONWHEREJAREDWASADOGPERSONANDJENSENWASACATPERSONANDSOMEHOWTHISISACOMPLICATIONINTHEIRRELATIONSHIP???? And everyone looks at each other for a second and then the guy slams the door and continues running. End scene.

I tried to not know, honestly. I tried to stay away. Maybe, deep inside, I knew what would happen. I knew this could have only come form something fucking stupid. But I had to fucking know. I had to fucking know. What the hell even inspired this thing? What is he yelling? Whose relationship? Wait... let me listen again... fanfiction... dog... relationship... what is happening here?

Long story short, I now know what was happening there.

((ETA It occured to me after the fact that I was looking for that animation clip from the wrong angle. Sure, it's probably in the depths of the ongoing pile of silly art Zarla puts on the internet but it's also easy to find on the fplus's very website, because why wouldn't it be? http://thefpl.us/episode/45 (http://thefpl.us/episode/45)

Also, episode fourty fucking five? yikes.))

Anyway. Jesus, I had no idea how much I missed "penises want to bleed. it is their natural state" until I heard that quote again. Precious. Classic. I like how there was a "wow, Bunnybread" section to that retrospective that was about 10 minutes long, and he wasn't even there.

When I introduce people to the f plus, and yes, that has happened several times, depending on whether the could be said to spend a lot of time 'shipping' or not, I start them with the Supernatural ep, just like how I started, or start them with the Clingfilm episode if they don't spend enough time on archive of our own to just say 'oh ha ha ha some omegaverse ha ha ha right' when it comes up.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Cleretic on January 18, 2016, 08:28:05 pm
My first episode was the Troper Tales episode, because I came from SA in the PYF-era of atrocity tourism. As I recall, a lot of it started with a Fandom Secrets thread that spun off of a Chip and Ironicus LP, and from there a TV Tropes thread happened, and from there the F Plus episode happened. I still can't listen to the Troper Tales episode because the content is just so horribly awkward, though, and I think if my second episode wasn't Roy Orbison Completely Covered In Cling Film I wouldn't have kept going.

I didn't get into atrocity tourism from MST3K, though, which seems to be a bit of a minority situation here; it just never aired in Australia in a way that I would've caught it. My first brush with atrocity tourism was on a short-lived standup show that aired late at night for a while, where one comedian (Charlie Pickering, who's gone on to do a few Daily Show-style news comedy shows) did his entire set about reading and making fun of B.B. King's autobiography. Mainly a chapter entirely devoted to strangely detailed and disgusting descriptions of his issues with his foreskin.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: goombapolice on January 18, 2016, 08:33:18 pm
I just want to say: Thank you for making this podcast. Thank you to everyone involved in every step.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 08:34:14 pm
I still can't listen to the Troper Tales episode because the content is just so horribly awkward
Cleretic, January 18, 2016, 08:28:05 pm

I have a similar problem, except for me I can't listen to it because I've already listened to it more than almost any other episode.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: QueenSyreen on January 18, 2016, 09:04:44 pm
Also are you going to find a way to put montrith in the next one? The existence of montrith is an important part of the fplus history, present, and future
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 18, 2016, 09:12:11 pm
hey that reminds me did zarla ever read my shadowrun book?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: montrith on January 18, 2016, 10:26:11 pm
I can't remember exactly when I first discovered the Fplus, but I do remember it was pretty early on. It might have been after there was a piece on SA where they read a bunch of really stupid forum posts and I was searching for something similar.  I almost immediately started submitting stuff, until they gave in and read the one about a guy turning into a sock, probably hoping if they read it I'd stop spamming them. Little did they know.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Username on January 18, 2016, 10:26:31 pm
This was a great episode. The section in the middle talking about replayabilty was pretty on point. I've hit double digits for at least 20 or so episodes and always find something new when I listen to them
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 18, 2016, 10:58:34 pm
a guy turning into a sock
montrith, January 18, 2016, 10:26:11 pm


I forgot that was one of yours, classic.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on January 18, 2016, 11:32:33 pm
hey that reminds me did zarla ever read my shadowrun book?
jack chick, January 18, 2016, 09:12:11 pm

She started on it, I think. I know she scanned it and showed it to a bunch of people haha
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Schumin Capote on January 19, 2016, 02:01:10 am
I found PoE through Old Man Murray and while I didn't post much back in those days, I loved reading the forums and was obsessed with SuperFister69's posts and endless array of signature pics (e.g. "Never fist a hungry shark."). I remember things like the harlequin baby web rings, the Dutchman, Supa Dupa Babies, Poems for Annika, and all of the drama surrounding Alisa-chan.

I can't quite remember how I found the F-Plus, but it was either through Lou Read's the Internet for You or a podcast recommendation thread on SA.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on January 19, 2016, 04:17:49 am
I think I found it through the SA recommend a podcast thread way back at episode 80, Jonathan Lee Riches. I don't feel that man gets enough credit for being one of the craziest. His wikipedia page is a thing of beauty.

Riches attempted to intervene as a plaintiff in the Madoff investment scandal, claiming that he "met Bernard Madoff on eharmony.com in 2001" and taught Madoff identity theft skills.

It was kind of a shock entry into the nonsense that the internet gives us access to. The podcast almost immediately took a month break.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: TurkeyPopulationGuessingMan on January 19, 2016, 05:02:19 am
I found the F Plus around the ice chewing / Skyrim mod episodes. I was listening to My Brother, My Brother and Me and they briefly mentioned this other podcast that was trying to come onto their turf of reading stuff from Yahoo Answers.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Ambious on January 19, 2016, 05:22:25 am
I had someone on a chat from another forum I visit frequently recommend the podcast to me out of nowhere.
First episode I tuned in for was the Cheevos one.
Laughs were had.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Liatai on January 19, 2016, 07:18:42 am
I found the F Plus through Zarla and Internet Computer, actually. I'd been following Zarla's art and such for years, and she happened to link Internet Computer when Portaxx's animation became public. It happened to hit all my giggle spots -- funny voices, funny premise, enthusiastic reading of typos -- I had to have more.

So I followed links through Portaxx's post and listened to Hans von Hozel, and laughed through the whole episode. Now, I won't say I was fully hooked then, but I will say I kept returning to it and decided I wanted more. So I went back to Portaxx's info post about the podcast which recommended some episodes, and I scrolled through looking for something not too gross. "Reno iz Drest in a Kostoom" was my second episode -- hey, I figured, I'm a roleplayer myself, I'm well-acquainted with some of the awful Mary Sues and Gary Stus that populate the field.

I was not prepared. But still I laughed, and wanted more. Which surprised me. I'm not usually the atrocity tourism type.

So I went, "well, okay, let's try a more hardcore episode from the list, see if I can stomach that." Zarla's stick-figure animation about the guy bursting into a barber shop looking for Supernatural fanfic had come out by then, so I craved context.

I stomached it handily -- having been exposed to some of the awful stuff that populates kink memes out of a sense of morbid curiosity -- and have been hooked on the podcast ever since. X3; There are only two or three episodes at this point that I DON'T want to listen to again at some point (monkey moms and dickbugs, with a side of fuckdolls), and I think I've listened to them all at least once. They make great background noise while I play games -- it makes me feel like I have a bunch of friends over reading and laughing at stupid shit, which is always fun. Plus, a good number of episodes serve as public safety announcements, in my book; if you hear or see anyone who reminds you of an F Plus subject, WALK AWAY. :P

I have learned not to listen to new episodes while driving, though. I had an incident somewhat like Kumquat's with the Sherlock episode, though I was in a car. I vaguely remember going "dog cocks WHAT -- WOLF PACKS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY" and nearly driving into a cornfield due to chagrin and laughter. Whoops. :B
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: CormansInferno on January 19, 2016, 12:55:59 pm
Lurked on PoE, was somewhat active as it wheezed out its last and was moderately-active on POE-News (and now Bo News). Thinking about that flash animation of the stillborn baby spirit dwaggyn belting out "Hello My Ragtime GAAAAL" and the woman that accidentally had Don Bluth shut down her erotic Secret of Nimh RPG still make me smile.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 19, 2016, 01:03:24 pm
that flash animation of the stillborn baby spirit dwaggyn belting out "Hello My Ragtime GAAAAL"
CormansInferno, January 19, 2016, 12:55:59 pm


I don't remember that one!  Do you know if it's still out there anywhere?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Lady Frenzy on January 19, 2016, 05:16:29 pm
Huge head guy is one of my favorite posts of all time, so I'm glad it made it into the episode. Let's not forget Bunnybread's reading of the OP, too. My love for them is almost as big as their heads.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Isfahan on January 19, 2016, 05:34:34 pm
I was unfortunately unable to make the retrospective recordings; now listening to them I want so badly to have been there and reminisced with everyone else over the PoE-Red/PoE-News/TF2 Cabal days. I would have told my coming-to-God story regarding What's On The Internet™ because it is a very, very vivid set of memories for me.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Dawnswalker on January 19, 2016, 06:32:09 pm
You could tell us now!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 19, 2016, 06:35:50 pm
so i'm listening through this and i just remembered how much my mind was blown at F+ live 1 & 2 when people actually showed up to see it. 2 especially because we had fans who were there and were super excited, and that was just the WEIRDEST FUCKING THING.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on January 19, 2016, 07:04:58 pm
so i'm listening through this and i just remembered how much my mind was blown at F+ live 1 & 2 when people actually showed up to see it. 2 especially because we had fans who were there and were super excited, and that was just the WEIRDEST FUCKING THING.
jack chick, January 19, 2016, 06:35:50 pm

My mind was blown at the lack of corpse paint.

JACK.

>:(
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Victor Laszlo on January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm
so i'm listening through this and i just remembered how much my mind was blown at F+ live 1 & 2 when people actually showed up to see it. 2 especially because we had fans who were there and were super excited, and that was just the WEIRDEST FUCKING THING.
jack chick, January 19, 2016, 06:35:50 pm
Yeah, at one point (at the first one? we were in Blue Nile I'm pretty sure) I was walking back to the table and somebody with the podcast called out to me and a couple of guys a few tables back started excitedly nudging each other and whisper-shouting "THAT'S VICTOR LASZLO!" and that is still just about the most surreal fucking thing that will ever happen to me.  Nobody in real life is ever that happy to see me!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Mu. on January 19, 2016, 07:41:05 pm
so i'm listening through this and i just remembered how much my mind was blown at F+ live 1 & 2 when people actually showed up to see it. 2 especially because we had fans who were there and were super excited, and that was just the WEIRDEST FUCKING THING.
jack chick, January 19, 2016, 06:35:50 pm
Yeah, at one point (at the first one? we were in Blue Nile I'm pretty sure) I was walking back to the table and somebody with the podcast called out to me and a couple of guys a few tables back started excitedly nudging each other and whisper-shouting "THAT'S VICTOR LASZLO!" and that is still just about the most surreal fucking thing that will ever happen to me.  Nobody in real life is ever that happy to see me!
Victor Laszlo, January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm

Sounds like you should quit that doctoring lark and become a full time E-Celeb™ then.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on January 19, 2016, 07:44:21 pm
so i'm listening through this and i just remembered how much my mind was blown at F+ live 1 & 2 when people actually showed up to see it. 2 especially because we had fans who were there and were super excited, and that was just the WEIRDEST FUCKING THING.
jack chick, January 19, 2016, 06:35:50 pm
Yeah, at one point (at the first one? we were in Blue Nile I'm pretty sure) I was walking back to the table and somebody with the podcast called out to me and a couple of guys a few tables back started excitedly nudging each other and whisper-shouting "THAT'S VICTOR LASZLO!" and that is still just about the most surreal fucking thing that will ever happen to me.  Nobody in real life is ever that happy to see me!
Victor Laszlo, January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm

Sounds like you should quit that doctoring lark and become a full time E-Celeb™ then.
Murphy, January 19, 2016, 07:41:05 pm

Ooooh ooh, how about professional Surgeon Simulator and/or Trauma Center livestreamer??
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: a gross spider on January 19, 2016, 10:08:11 pm
that flash animation of the stillborn baby spirit dwaggyn belting out "Hello My Ragtime GAAAAL"
CormansInferno, January 19, 2016, 12:55:59 pm


I don't remember that one!  Do you know if it's still out there anywhere?
Old_Zircon, January 19, 2016, 01:03:24 pm

Yup (http://www.fastswf.com/9ZoghaU) (auto-playing sound, FYI)
It's one of the very few remaining bits of POE memorabilia that I somehow still have. Portaxx would be the person to go into the backstory of this one, if she's so inclined.

Bonus: it was an edit of an earlier, less defensible, animation (http://www.fastswf.com/wAgDbGc) made for one of the stillborn shrine websites.

I wish I still had Jockojones' comics. Those were fucking great.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Isfahan on January 19, 2016, 10:15:27 pm
You could tell us now!
Dawnswalker, January 19, 2016, 06:32:09 pm

I started my freshman year of high school in the latter half of 1995. One of the kids who rode the bus with me was a big stocky guy who was always drawing in sketchpads. He never talked to anybody, and nobody ever talked to him. His size guaranteed him a seat by himself. After a few months, just before Christmas break, as I recall, I decided to break the ice and ask what he was drawing. At first, he did not know how to handle this request. He looked like a fish that had been caught but was past the flopping-around phase. After several moments he snapped out of it and showed me.

I looked through all the pages, and I got a feeling that something was Not Right. Nothing overtly horrific, just that eerie suspicion which forms in the back of your skull and puts you on guard. It's a feeling I've been well acquainted with since then, its precision honed to exceptional keenness from two decades of being exposed to weird things, knowingly or otherwise. The drawings were all of fox-people. The unerring and invariable subject of every drawing was one or two fox-people in various stiff poses, wearing generic medieval-looking clothing with oversized anime-style boots.

I was quiet as I looked through these fox-people. The Not-Right feeling was washing through my brain and tickling the tops of my shoulderblades. I was weirded out and I didn't even know why. At that time in my life I had a basic understanding of what a fixation was but couldn't explain it to myself mentally.

"It's from Shining Force," explained the kid. "It's a game."

I didn't know what Shining Force was at the time. Looking back, I'm astonished it wasn't Sonic, but we've discussed before how things like this seem to take the form of whatever an adolescent is doing at the time he or she experiences sexual awakening. Fourteen-year-old me was, even then, at once confused and intrigued by what I was looking at, and the narrative about the kid that was forming in my head. It wasn't fun, but it was fascinating.

We'd had dial-up internet at home for about five months when I met Shining Force Kid. Nowadays we turn to Google first for any inquiry, but back then it took me a few days to have the notion that, huh, I wonder what the Internet knows about this. The connection was so slow that I had to plan out the sites I would visit, none of this multiple-tabs and alt-tabbing nonsense. You would literally have to map out your Internet itinerary for a session given the limited time you had.

Shining Force was bumped to the top of the list. You can imagine what I learned from there.

Come to find out that there were actually only a couple of fox-person characters in the game, and for the most part the game had human and humanoid characters. But there were whole pages devoted to the fox character, or the rat character, or the whatever-else-wasn't-human characters. Shrines, they were called. My Not-Right sense was going haywire. What was the appeal? Why were people obsessing over a minor character in a Sega Genesis game?

One shrine site was a part of a webring (remember those?). The webring was called FurRing, and that was the hole down which I saw the white rabbit disappear.

It was like the ending to 2001. I didn't know people would—could—use the Internet for such things. It was all so weird and unsettling, even before I discovered that people were making porn with these subjects (which, unsurprisingly, didn't take long, given what we're talking about). I of course learned retroactively that people didn't like the fox-people of Shining Force because the characters were good or interesting, they just liked the fact that it was a fox-person. Were these all awkward kids like the guy on the bus? No, I quickly learned, they weren't. They were, in fact, mostly guys much older than either me or him. I don't know what became of that kid, because after seeing his sketchbook I joined the rest of the bus in staying away from him, but I can only assume he did as I had and discovered His People on the Internet. Furry is very, very inclusive, after all. They turn nobody away, ever. For any reason. They are not people who will ignore you on the bus. They will love your Shining Force drawings because it's fox-people. Hey, I like Shining Force too, why don't you draw those fox-people naked? You know, as a joke? Hahaha. Then post it here, please. People will like it! You like being liked, don't you? It's okay to like looking at naked fox-people, you know. Anyone who says that's weird is just being mean to you. We don't judge, so stick with us.

Anyway, furries—by way of the Shining Force Kid—were the start for me. They took my e-innocence. Over the years I would watch them grow coy and guileful even as they grew bolder and more vocal. The inevitable PR disasters surprised me not a whit, and as they gained more unwanted exposure* I watched duplicity emerge. A few bad apples don't spoil the bunch, after all! No, they don't, but with furry fans it was more like one or two good apples don't stand a chance of staying fresh in a bushel of rotten ones. I never bought that it was all innocent, because I was there, at the ground floor, while they built upwards. And what they built was a horrible tower, an obsidian monument for all other groups of weirdos to aspire to. My experiences shaped my perspective, and I've since learned that furry predates the Internet by many many years, but for me it is Internet Subculture Zero. The Greek letter Alpha. The First Commandment of Being a True Pervert: Thou Shalt Be Furry. I don't believe all furries are perverts, but genuinely liking only the aesthetic of anthropomorphic characters has got to be like playing the triangle in a full symphony. It is both a subculture, a lifestyle, a fetish on its own, and an "adjective-fetish" which can be used to modify other fetishes. Into watersports? How about FURRY WATERSPORTS just turn all the dudes into lemurs or alpacas or whatever and boom in three months you'll be a Guest of Honor at Confurence! Fame and acceptance! You like the idea of that, right? Of course you do. You've never had fame or acceptance before, but we can give it to you. Just keep giving us those lemurs and alpacas, mmm, yeah, just like that.

As the years passed I eventually discovered Portal of Evil through Old Man Murray, which itself had been discovered through Seanbaby's crossover articles with Chet and Erik. From there, I discovered that I wasn't the only one who was onto what furry was doing as a subculture. Watching other folks call out disgusting furry sites clicked with me, so I stuck around and acquainted myself with other exhibits. Like Shining Force Kid, I had found My People.

* "unwanted exposure" for furry is anything which doesn't paint them in the absolute most positive light as the perfect, happiest group of people to have ever put shorts over their SPHs
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Dawnswalker on January 19, 2016, 11:00:33 pm
I already used my bulb but you can have a [freakout].
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Lady Frenzy on January 19, 2016, 11:17:16 pm
a couple of guys a few tables back started excitedly nudging each other and whisper-shouting "THAT'S VICTOR LASZLO!"Victor Laszlo, January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm

They messed up the most perfect opportunity to say [yayvictor]

I started my freshman year of high school in the latter half of 1995 [...]
Isfahan, January 19, 2016, 10:15:27 pm

I happened to be listening to this while I read this post and it really set the noir mood:
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Cyberventurer on January 20, 2016, 12:48:15 am
Isfahan's post reminded me of something from years ago.  I was on some gaming site's forum and noticed someone had posted a thread about wanting someone to collaborate with him on making a Shining Force fan game, I think?  It seemed like a pretty generic "ideas guy" post that nobody replied to, but he linked back to his personal website called Game Legacies and for some reason, I decided to click it.  My browser froze up and crashed on me.

So I load it up, went back to the site because now I'm curious, and it froze up again.  Something on the site was causing my Mozilla browser (when it was still using the dinosaur mascot instead of being rebranded Firefox) to break and I had to use Internet Explorer to open it, and it was the most Web 1.0ish site I had ever seen on the internet.  Sadly, I think this picture of it from when it it one of Something Awful's "awful link of the day" features is the only thing left of it.

(http://i.imgur.com/TAButy6.jpg)

He had a music file embedded and set to autoplay that would only work if I had this old, obnoxious and almost virus-like media program called RealPlayer installed and almost 200 webrings on the main site.  Pages upon pages of webrings, from gaming webrings to parenting webrings to LGBT webrings, I assume anything he could possibly use for networking purposes.  Blinking text.  Marquee.  What must have been over a hundred hand-written full walkthroughs for random Nintendo, Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis games and almost EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PAGES HAD THEIR OWN, UNIQUE EMBEDDED MUSIC FILE.  It was like a one-man attempted recreation of Gamefaqs.  And the cherry on top was one random tucked-away small page about his alleged UFO sightings.

About a year later, I searched for Game Legacies again stumbled across someone else's personal website that had a small paragraph dedicated to how much he disliked me for submitting it to SA's Awful Link of the Day because said person considered that crazy site's owner to be his personal arch-nemesis on the internet and had been submitting that same site to SA for months without it being featured, and he thought I somehow knew that and submitted it myself just to spite him.

I think that's the earliest weird internet thing I can remember getting really absorbed into because it was practically dropped on my doorstep, then minorly flamed by an obsessed third party because I happened to show off what I found.

Edit:  Its on the Wayback Machine here:  https://web.archive.org/web/20060424134323/http://www.gamelegacies.com/main.htm
Also fixed the number of webrings I mentioned because it turned out I overshot by a bit when I went back to count.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Cleretic on January 20, 2016, 12:57:25 am
And the cherry on top was one random tucked-away small page about his alleged UFO sightings.
Cyberventurer, January 20, 2016, 12:48:15 am

Oh, that reminds me of the Odyssey of Hyrule! Somehow it's still up (http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/), and it's got some of the most hilariously conspiracy-theory stuff about Zelda I have ever and will ever see. Unsurprisingly the guy running the site turned out to be an actual conspiracy theorist.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on January 20, 2016, 03:30:21 am
that flash animation of the stillborn baby spirit dwaggyn belting out "Hello My Ragtime GAAAAL"
CormansInferno, January 19, 2016, 12:55:59 pm


I don't remember that one!  Do you know if it's still out there anywhere?
Old_Zircon, January 19, 2016, 01:03:24 pm

Yup (http://www.fastswf.com/9ZoghaU) (auto-playing sound, FYI)
It's one of the very few remaining bits of POE memorabilia that I somehow still have. Portaxx would be the person to go into the backstory of this one, if she's so inclined.
a gross spider, January 19, 2016, 10:08:11 pm

Hahaha god it's such a stupid story. I should tell it some day, really.

For anyone who doesn't know, the tl;dr version is: I once made fun of a made-up dead dragon baby (note: said dragon baby did not exist in any capacity in real life) on PoE and got the most stalkery threats (death and otherwise!!) for it. Nobody ever followed through of course, so yeah I suppose otherkin can still be technically classified as "harmless," but boy howdy does their subculture encourage unhealthy behavior even beyond the whole "pretending to be a gryphon-shapeshifter-mage" thing.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Acierocolotl on January 20, 2016, 09:12:38 am
This is part of the "discussion for another time" that I alluded to in the podcast.

I ran my own BBS from 1992 to 1995, on the "rogue" side of Fidonet.  Fidonet was such a big thing in my city that there were two separate networks: a formal one for people who insisted on real names, and a rogue one, for people who liked to use weird aliases.

Before I continue, this was pre-Internet, the way your forebears communicated with each other. Fidonet sites were run off your own computer if you chose to host one, using software that turned your computer into a Bulletin Board Service (BBS), and connected by dialing your modem with their modem.  Any messages that were to be sent along the network were done by your BBS calling its "server" BBS (again, modem to modem, preferentially with short-distance telephone calls) and transferred messages that way.

So in a nutshell, it was a glorified forum system.  No graphics to speak of, as modem speeds were slow enough to make transferring even a simple 320x240 image enormously time-consuming.  There was something compelling about being able to communicate with people across the continent though, and I'd made a few friends that way--though it'd take days for messages to arrive.  Mostly, though, it was people in the city itself and various groups of us would get together on occasion and form friendships away from the keyboards.

Anyway!  One of the other individuals I met was quiet, rarely left home, and lived off social assistance because of a supposed back injury, though affable enough.  I played a couple tabletop RPGs with him and friends, and I started calling his BBS as he was hosting one as well, though on the other, "formal" network.  I noted he had a channel dedicated to "Multiple Personality Disorder" (MPD) and absolutely had to have a feed.  I had to.  The second I got it, I distributed it to others in the rogue network, because that feed was a hot commodity.

That channel was filled--it was really active--with people who would make posts as their alternate personalities.  I don't know what they got out of it but it was kind of funny.  My "host" was also a participant, and I knew him to be a fake: his alternate personalities were just the characters he'd made up for the various RPGs we were in.  The tough brute personality was the soldier in a Cyberpunk campaign, the psycho personality was the barbarian in some D&D, and so forth.  Seriously, there was a 1:1 correlation and this guy was a quiet roll-the-dice type, not Sunday Amateur Theatre Hour sort of roleplayer.

Even that wasn't rich enough fodder for the MPD people: they formed up a new group they called SRA:  "Satanic Ritual Abuse".  Somebody had read "Sybil", yeah.  They would make SRA posts in the voice of their little inner child, frequently in a clearly fake, affected childish dialect.  As in, "an den I wicked up the chockwit".  It couldn't be more fake if they tried.

I never once poked at it, but it was bizarrely fascinating reading grown-ass adults trying to fake their way having a fake disease they read up in a since-debunked novel written 20 years previously, and cemented in my young mind that "Yeah, there's some real fucking broken dipshits out there."

I never once poked at the echo, and once the novelty of reading about these dipshits worse off, I disconnected the feed and never spoke to the "host" again, though I did cross paths later (without him knowing).  He had moved his pity-habit online.

And then in 1995 it became really easy to get online and I dropped Fidonet instantly.  I think there's still some hilarious old fucks still trying to run a site or two, but with nobody using modems anymore I really haven't a clue how they manage.

PoE, when I stumbled across it, was a natural fit.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 20, 2016, 10:26:59 am
a couple of guys a few tables back started excitedly nudging each other and whisper-shouting "THAT'S VICTOR LASZLO!"Victor Laszlo, January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm

They messed up the most perfect opportunity to say [yayvictor]

Lady Frenzy, January 19, 2016, 11:17:16 pm

Where do you think YAY VICTORY came from?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: RedMinjo on January 20, 2016, 11:09:34 am
Oh my fucking god all of this TF2 nostalgia is going to crush me.

Can we get a TF2 server? Maybe with all of the terrible cash shop items disabled, just stock weapons and the 2009-ish-era achievement unlock items left in?
Gyro, January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 am

I'll get the TF2 server back up and running, probably with all of my old mods.

We'll schedule a time to play.
Boots Raingear, January 18, 2016, 11:14:40 am

How many kills until Hanson?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Spacebat on January 20, 2016, 03:21:15 pm
Nobody in real life is ever that happy to see me!
Victor Laszlo, January 19, 2016, 07:08:18 pm

I always knew you were a proctologist.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Guts Going Nutz on January 20, 2016, 06:35:32 pm
I still can't listen to the Troper Tales episode because the content is just so horribly awkward
Cleretic, January 18, 2016, 08:28:05 pm

I have a similar problem, except for me I can't listen to it because I've already listened to it more than almost any other episode.
Old_Zircon, January 18, 2016, 08:34:14 pm

"I'm in a similar situation, except the opposite."
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: EYE OF ZA on January 20, 2016, 07:28:40 pm
"I'm skinny, goodbye!"
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 20, 2016, 09:08:47 pm
that flash animation of the stillborn baby spirit dwaggyn belting out "Hello My Ragtime GAAAAL"
CormansInferno, January 19, 2016, 12:55:59 pm


I don't remember that one!  Do you know if it's still out there anywhere?
Old_Zircon, January 19, 2016, 01:03:24 pm

Yup (http://www.fastswf.com/9ZoghaU) (auto-playing sound, FYI)
It's one of the very few remaining bits of POE memorabilia that I somehow still have. Portaxx would be the person to go into the backstory of this one, if she's so inclined.

Bonus: it was an edit of an earlier, less defensible, animation (http://www.fastswf.com/wAgDbGc) made for one of the stillborn shrine websites.

I wish I still had Jockojones' comics. Those were fucking great.
a gross spider, January 19, 2016, 10:08:11 pm

Wow, that was simultaneously far worse and far better than I expected!


I have a zip somewhere with at least 3/4 of Superfister69's old signature images that he shared on Facebook a year or two ago, I'll try to find them and upload them someplace.

I also have every photo from PoEcon 1 but I feel like those are probably better forgotten.


EDIT:
http://www.oocities.org/superfister69/superfister69.html (http://www.oocities.org/superfister69/superfister69.html)
SF69 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/94j3qmluzzvb7vv/SF69.zip?dl=0)

If you have fond memories of them be warned - quite a few of them don't hold up so well (but there are still plenty of gems).  Also obviously NSFW.


If anyone has any record of TEDA's web site where you could pledge money to buy him beer I'd love to see that again.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Sherman Tank on January 20, 2016, 10:08:51 pm
Bonus: it was an edit of an earlier, less defensible, animation (http://www.fastswf.com/wAgDbGc) made for one of the stillborn shrine websites.
a gross spider, January 19, 2016, 10:08:11 pm

Oh my God, those people. It's been a decade or so since I learned about them, and it's still the saddest, most broken and most depressing thing on the internet to me.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Old_Zircon on January 20, 2016, 10:10:37 pm
I still can't listen to the Troper Tales episode because the content is just so horribly awkward
Cleretic, January 18, 2016, 08:28:05 pm

I have a similar problem, except for me I can't listen to it because I've already listened to it more than almost any other episode.
Old_Zircon, January 18, 2016, 08:34:14 pm

"I'm in a similar situation, except the opposite."
Guts Going Nutz, January 20, 2016, 06:35:32 pm

Exactly!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on January 21, 2016, 02:23:20 am
The show notes brought me back to Lemon's YouTube channel, and that ultra slow Crash Test Dummies song still cracks me the fuck up.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Ambious on January 21, 2016, 10:10:29 am
I love this, I'm a sucker for origin stories.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Turtle on January 21, 2016, 10:24:41 pm
Because it was mentioned, I am going to post a link to the still-extent feed for the Garbage Day Cabalcast (http://cabalcast.s3.amazonaws.com/rss.xml).

With this comes a few disclaimers:
1) Don't listen to this.
2) I'm not joking. This isn't like when Lemon says that episode #1 isn't good. This is an orders of magnitude difference. I mean it.
3) It is not well produced. As mentioned, these are hours long files of TF2 gameplay. They are they sounds of me mostly playing Scout and Spy, though I do think I once made the terrible mistake of playing Engineer. *clank* *clank* *clank*
4) For all the non-production I did, I somehow felt it a good idea to give it an introduction. Holy shit did I do a poor job at that.
5) There's one specific episode, I believe one of the early Mike Tyson?! episodes, that should end at least 30 minutes before it actually does, but instead I left in a huge chunk of bullshit in there. I'm not proud. I suggest you skip it once it becomes obvious that shit is over. You have been warned.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: YetAnotherAmber on January 21, 2016, 11:41:33 pm
One day, my lovely sister (littlewhitemouse on here) and I were home alone. We've always shared interests, including being giant nerds and fond of horror tourism, this day she goes. 'Hold on. There's this podcast I've just found and you have to listen to this episode.' And proceeded to play me It's Only Supernatural. Definitely still my favorite episode, to be honest. There's nothing like the hot slice of concentrated crazy that is kinkmemes
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: QueenSyreen on January 21, 2016, 11:51:44 pm
I remember, I played it while we were wrapping Christmas presents. It was festive.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on January 22, 2016, 12:07:34 am
Because it was mentioned, I am going to post a link to the still-extent feed for the Garbage Day Cabalcast (http://cabalcast.s3.amazonaws.com/rss.xml).

With this comes a few disclaimers:
1) Don't listen to this.
2) I'm not joking. This isn't like when Lemon says that episode #1 isn't good. This is an orders of magnitude difference. I mean it.
3) It is not well produced. As mentioned, these are hours long files of TF2 gameplay. They are they sounds of me mostly playing Scout and Spy, though I do think I once made the terrible mistake of playing Engineer. *clank* *clank* *clank*
4) For all the non-production I did, I somehow felt it a good idea to give it an introduction. Holy shit did I do a poor job at that.
5) There's one specific episode, I believe one of the early Mike Tyson?! episodes, that should end at least 30 minutes before it actually does, but instead I left in a huge chunk of bullshit in there. I'm not proud. I suggest you skip it once it becomes obvious that shit is over. You have been warned.
Turtle, January 21, 2016, 10:24:41 pm

this brings back a lot of memories and i'm glad we've moved on.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: JamEngulfer on January 22, 2016, 03:31:32 am
I remember being introduced to The F Plus in about December 2012. One of my friends who always manages to find crazy stuff on the internet (she's the one that I collaborated with on the VampireWebsite.net episode) introduced me to this podcast. The first episode I listened to was "I Can See Your Retch Marks" about super expanding breasts and I thought it was *okay*. In retrospect, that episode wasn't super memorable. After that though, I went through with that friend and basically marathoned them until I'd gotten through all of the previous episodes, which took about a month or two.

I think I've listened through all of them at least twice now and submitted a few docs, which has been fun. I think I've ended up listening to the Asexuals episode about 16/17 times now, which is probably a few times too many if I'll be honest.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Corn Syrup on January 24, 2016, 04:44:52 pm
Back around 2004, I stumbled across a forum called GodAwful FanFiction. I had visited some pretty dark corners of the internet before, but this was the first time I had found a community built around intentionally finding terrible material and sharing it. GAFF had some distinct shortcomings. Not the least of which being their narrow focus, which led to stagnation and eventual closure from lack of interest on the owner's part.

GAFF wasn't long for this world, but my interest was piqued. I've had a few friends over the years who got the same kick out of seeing the products of fundamentally broken minds that I did, so I never really got involved in any Atrocity Tourism communities online. I used to keep weird internet shit I had found bookmarked and read it out loud to them when we hung out in person. I just thought of it as good practice for not getting tripped up when going through a tough script. Then I found Lou Reads and This Troper and it finally clicked with me. Giving this stuff a dramatic reading highlights the insanity and can bring out the humor in otherwise painful material.

I heard about The FPlus when someone mentioned the Dozerfleet episode in a chat for a weekly writing contest over on SA. Come to think of it, that was about a year ago, and I still haven't reentered that contest since. Oops.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on January 14, 2017, 05:25:46 pm
Does anyone have links to John Toast's reading of Sass Girls X?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Frank West on January 14, 2017, 06:27:16 pm
Does anyone have links to John Toast's reading of Sass Girls X?
FattyBoBatty, January 14, 2017, 05:25:46 pm

https://thefpl.us/episode/live3a

This one?
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Shigan on January 14, 2017, 08:13:37 pm
Does anyone have links to John Toast's reading of Sass Girls X?
FattyBoBatty, January 14, 2017, 05:25:46 pm

There's also another, considerably lower-quality one behind the link Turtle posted. (http://cabalcast.s3.amazonaws.com/rss.xml)
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on January 14, 2017, 10:59:44 pm
No, the full one he did on TF2.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Shigan on January 15, 2017, 01:00:10 am
No, the full one he did on TF2.
FattyBoBatty, January 14, 2017, 10:59:44 pm

I thought this (http://cabalcast.s3.amazonaws.com/Garbage%20Day%20Cabalcast%205%20-%20Sass%20Girls%20X%20-%20Part%201.mp3) is it? There's some game noises in the background.
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Fatty Bo Batty on January 15, 2017, 11:58:15 am
Yeah, I didn't see your response when I wrote that Shigan. That's what I'm looking for!
Title: Episode 200a: Retrospective | Part 1
Post by: Shell Game on May 16, 2017, 07:28:17 pm
I love these two episodes so much. I find it so interesting when people talk about THEIR recollection/place in internet history.

I also have been wanting to say I love that The F-Plus refers to jokes from their old episodes. I'm always a little sad when people don't remember the funny things they do, so I'm tickled everytime an offhanded reference is made.

And finally, the STOG/Portaxx intro will always be my favorite.

That's all. The End.