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Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Lemon on June 18, 2021, 12:19:44 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F_w6VPxZlEE/TH1N7xDwZMI/AAAAAAAAA5E/DS42XxfQ0oc/s1600/Welsh+ISP+logo.png) (https://thefpl.us/episode/356)
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Shell Game on June 18, 2021, 12:45:56 pm
Seeing this pop up made my day and it's still morning.

oh! here's this also https://web.archive.org/web/20070808222339/http://www.dragoncode.org/ you may have to fiddle with dates if you click the links inside, but this is a place to find dragon code info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18y7vU_gFOmFnPk27VD-sLe0s-1tWORNyZLfzGQNnnLs/edit?usp=sharing

here's a doc i made awhile ago for an old recording that's MOST of the info on the website
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Ambious on June 19, 2021, 08:25:32 am
HTTP was a mistake
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Captain Fargle on June 19, 2021, 04:04:48 pm
If I remember correctly that Dragon Code stuff came up in an Extra Credit episode and at least part of it is about having shorthand code for letting people know if your dragon fursona is bigger than the Sun or not.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: jim and the mammograms on June 19, 2021, 04:50:08 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720763018442440786/855927245305675786/unknown.png)

scathing podcast reviews on the dragon code site
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Shell Game on June 20, 2021, 12:33:10 am
If I remember correctly that Dragon Code stuff came up in an Extra Credit episode and at least part of it is about having shorthand code for letting people know if your dragon fursona is bigger than the Sun or not.
Captain Fargle, June 19, 2021, 04:04:48 pm
That was the white elephant doc exchange (https://thefmin.us/the-white-elephant-in-the-room/) we did a couple holiday seasons ago.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Tipsy Almond on June 20, 2021, 12:47:58 pm
If I remember correctly that Dragon Code stuff came up in an Extra Credit episode and at least part of it is about having shorthand code for letting people know if your dragon fursona is bigger than the Sun or not.
Captain Fargle, June 19, 2021, 04:04:48 pm

For a moment, I thought you were talking about the YouTube channel Extra Credits and I was both not surprised and exceedingly concerned.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Wolley74 on June 20, 2021, 08:05:27 pm
So for some reason Spotify is playing the Dr feeder episode instead of the new one no clue why but might wanna check it out
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Lemon on June 20, 2021, 09:20:35 pm
So for some reason Spotify is playing the Dr feeder episode instead of the new one no clue why but might wanna check it out
Wolley74, June 20, 2021, 08:05:27 pm
yeah, so I typed something when I originally posted Doctor Feeder. If you delete the file and start over you should be all good.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Wolley74 on June 20, 2021, 10:02:49 pm
yeah, so I typed something when I originally posted Doctor Feeder. If you delete the file and start over you should be all good.
Lemon, June 20, 2021, 09:20:35 pm

Tried rebooting app / clearing cache still happening. It's playing thru Google podcasts and plex but not Spotify yet
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: adrenochrome dome on June 20, 2021, 10:45:25 pm
Podcast Addict has the correct episode, but with the Dr. Feeder chapters (after re-downloading).
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: hardrocococafe on June 21, 2021, 02:32:21 am
I don’t know if this is specialized millennial knowledge, but Weezie from Dragon Tales is one head on a two-headed dragon and the other head on the two-headed dragon is her brother. Hope this helps
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: KingKalamari on June 21, 2021, 12:44:23 pm
Man, there's something almost nostalgic about the particular breed of otherkin featured in this episode.

I think it's something that I didn't really grasp at the time, but revisiting this stuff 15-20 years removed from when it was happening, it's interesting to see just how much of a direct outgrowth of the tabletop rpg community oldschool otherkin invariably were. The actual mechanics and portrayals of dragons in the episode were pretty much ripped directly from the 2nd Edition Monstrous Compendiums and the vague babblings of new age pseudo-spirituality are pretty much identical to the sort of stuff you'd see in White Wolf splat books when Phil "Satyros" Brucato* was in the writer's chair.

The 90s were a hell of a weird time for RPGs.

* - To those not in the know, Phil Brucato was a game developer who legally changed his name to "Satyros" because he's exactly the person you picture when someone says the phrase "neo-pagan weirdo". He still tends to go by Phil Brucato for professional work but always includes the Satyros in some capacity.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Penultimatum on June 23, 2021, 11:49:29 am
Man, there's something almost nostalgic about the particular breed of otherkin featured in this episode.

I think it's something that I didn't really grasp at the time, but revisiting this stuff 15-20 years removed from when it was happening, it's interesting to see just how much of a direct outgrowth of the tabletop rpg community oldschool otherkin invariably were. The actual mechanics and portrayals of dragons in the episode were pretty much ripped directly from the 2nd Edition Monstrous Compendiums and the vague babblings of new age pseudo-spirituality are pretty much identical to the sort of stuff you'd see in White Wolf splat books when Phil "Satyros" Brucato* was in the writer's chair.

The 90s were a hell of a weird time for RPGs.

* - To those not in the know, Phil Brucato was a game developer who legally changed his name to "Satyros" because he's exactly the person you picture when someone says the phrase "neo-pagan weirdo". He still tends to go by Phil Brucato for professional work but always includes the Satyros in some capacity.
KingKalamari, June 21, 2021, 12:44:23 pm
Wait, so you’re saying all the moral panic weirdos who thought tabletop RPGs made you lose touch with reality were right?
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Antivehicular on June 27, 2021, 06:10:18 am
Man, there's something almost nostalgic about the particular breed of otherkin featured in this episode.

I think it's something that I didn't really grasp at the time, but revisiting this stuff 15-20 years removed from when it was happening, it's interesting to see just how much of a direct outgrowth of the tabletop rpg community oldschool otherkin invariably were. The actual mechanics and portrayals of dragons in the episode were pretty much ripped directly from the 2nd Edition Monstrous Compendiums and the vague babblings of new age pseudo-spirituality are pretty much identical to the sort of stuff you'd see in White Wolf splat books when Phil "Satyros" Brucato* was in the writer's chair.

The 90s were a hell of a weird time for RPGs.

* - To those not in the know, Phil Brucato was a game developer who legally changed his name to "Satyros" because he's exactly the person you picture when someone says the phrase "neo-pagan weirdo". He still tends to go by Phil Brucato for professional work but always includes the Satyros in some capacity.
KingKalamari, June 21, 2021, 12:44:23 pm

Additionally, Bard Bloom from this doc (and yes, this is his real name, as far as I can tell?) is definitely a TTRPG guy. He and his wife co-wrote a game called World Tree which is about 70% a really interesting, complex original fantasy world and about 30% "oh christ, it's '90's old-school furries," and it definitely has some Dragon Content. (The dragons are very small, but they're definitely immortal jerkass wizards, and there's a whole paragraph about how ~sensual~ they are and it's weird as shit. You can play one if you want!!)
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Great Joe on June 27, 2021, 07:10:02 am
Wow, you reached the days in a year number. Congrats!
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: junior associate faguar on June 27, 2021, 10:35:27 am
Wow, you reached the days in a year number. Congrats!
Great Joe, June 27, 2021, 07:10:02 am

uhhh
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Great Joe on June 27, 2021, 11:30:49 am
Wow, you reached the days in a year number. Congrats!
Great Joe, June 27, 2021, 07:10:02 am

uhhh
junior associate faguar, June 27, 2021, 10:35:27 am
I'm off by 9 days. I dunno, it looked right in my head for some reason. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Penultimatum on June 27, 2021, 12:08:10 pm
[…] it definitely has some Dragon Content. (The dragons are very small, but they're definitely immortal jerkass wizards, and there's a whole paragraph about how ~sensual~ they are and it's weird as shit. You can play one if you want!!)
Antivehicular, June 27, 2021, 06:10:18 am
Hey, thanks for the TTRPG suggestion BTW
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Antivehicular on June 27, 2021, 03:42:03 pm
[…] it definitely has some Dragon Content. (The dragons are very small, but they're definitely immortal jerkass wizards, and there's a whole paragraph about how ~sensual~ they are and it's weird as shit. You can play one if you want!!)
Antivehicular, June 27, 2021, 06:10:18 am
Hey, thanks for the TTRPG suggestion BTW
Dragon Friend, June 27, 2021, 12:08:10 pm

Honestly, it's a pretty good game, although it's firmly in my "I don't think I'll ever manage to get a group together for this" pile. (Among other things, it's based on the infamously complicated game Ars Magica, which is a big ask.) It's just... do you want a high-fantasy game written in the style of the posts in this episode? Do you want it to be illustrated with the same art as the covers on Bard Bloom's Amazon page? Then you're in the money.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Shell Game on June 28, 2021, 01:58:21 am
[…] it definitely has some Dragon Content. (The dragons are very small, but they're definitely immortal jerkass wizards, and there's a whole paragraph about how ~sensual~ they are and it's weird as shit. You can play one if you want!!)
Antivehicular, June 27, 2021, 06:10:18 am
Hey, thanks for the TTRPG suggestion BTW
Dragon Friend, June 27, 2021, 12:08:10 pm

Honestly, it's a pretty good game, although it's firmly in my "I don't think I'll ever manage to get a group together for this" pile. (Among other things, it's based on the infamously complicated game Ars Magica, which is a big ask.) It's just... do you want a high-fantasy game written in the style of the posts in this episode? Do you want it to be illustrated with the same art as the covers on Bard Bloom's Amazon page? Then you're in the money.
Antivehicular, June 27, 2021, 03:42:03 pm
... I'm very intrigued by this description.
Title: 356: Dragons On Usenet
Post by: Antivehicular on June 28, 2021, 05:42:33 am
It's worth looking into if you're interested! Unfortunately, there don't seem to be PDFs anywhere, but copies are relatively cheap on Amazon. (A part of me is like "shit, I should start a thread and do a writeup of this game," but... it'd be a lengthy effort.)