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Snakes In The Ball Pit => Announcements => Topic started by: Lemon on March 05, 2019, 12:30:30 pm

Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Lemon on March 05, 2019, 12:30:30 pm
SEE SCREENSHOTS BELOW.

So this is something that I'd been thinking about for a while, but I think it's enough of a UX change that I wanted to run this by you first.

The "post actions" (bulb, quote, edit, etc. ) are all located on top of the post, next to the title. From a hierarchical perspective this is Incorrect UXTM, because you're seeing the actions you can take on a post before seeing the post itself. However, that said, the Status Quo is a thing. SO: the question is, should I change it?

ABOVE
(https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3413200/53827461-c493fb00-3f40-11e9-8fea-dbebd018eee8.png)

BELOW
(https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3413200/53827532-f9a04d80-3f40-11e9-9fa2-975f2d6ad3df.png)

I will go with the vote on this one.


* Incorrect UX is a trademark of GoDaddy International. GoDaddy: We do everything wrong but somehow you fuckers keep paying us.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on March 05, 2019, 12:52:03 pm
As above, so below
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: moooo566 (taylor's version) on March 05, 2019, 01:02:23 pm
I reckon move them below.

It'll take a bit of getting used to but it's probably best, it is kind of annoying when you run into one of the (admittedly fairly infrequent) posts that are longer than one screen and then I have to scroll up to find them.

edit: actually having read other people's arguments ive decided im wrong as usual
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Victor Laszlo on March 05, 2019, 02:07:14 pm
I feel like the buttons being on top mimics the standard experience in browsers and other programs(Word, Excel, Photoshop) where the action buttons are at the top of the screen.  I also like that they're on the same line as the post title, it helps me be certain which post I'm interacting with.

Of course I'm usually in the minority when it comes to opinions on how things should be.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Boots Raingear on March 05, 2019, 02:09:45 pm
I think I like the post actions below but I really don't like the bulb icon and count below.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Ambious on March 05, 2019, 02:25:09 pm
I say let each user chose for themself.
You cracked night mode, you can do this.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Lemon on March 05, 2019, 02:53:00 pm
I say let each user chose for themself.
You cracked night mode, you can do this.
Ambious, March 05, 2019, 02:25:09 pm

That's a hard no.  "Make it a setting" is too easy a method to avoid making design decisions, and creates exponential design problems with everything you do. You know how people never say anything nice about Linux application design? It's definitely customizable though!
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Ambious on March 05, 2019, 03:08:38 pm
I say let each user chose for themself.
You cracked night mode, you can do this.
Ambious, March 05, 2019, 02:25:09 pm

That's a hard no.  "Make it a setting" is too easy a method to avoid making design decisions, and creates exponential design problems with everything you do. You know how people never say anything nice about Linux application design? It's definitely customizable though!
Lemon, March 05, 2019, 02:53:00 pm

Fair enough. I guess that's what chrome extensions are for.
If you do end putting it on the bottom though, maybe make it above the "bulbed by" row? Make it look less fragmented.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 05, 2019, 03:27:31 pm
I like them on the top, it's different from almost every other forum and I like that.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Macho Masc Sangy Savage on March 05, 2019, 04:25:28 pm
I like them below, as you react to posts after you read them. Do agree that the bulb counts look better above
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: chai tea latte on March 05, 2019, 04:41:27 pm
I like having the stars above a 6-bulb post so I know that it's good before I read it. At the same time, it would be nice to bulb a good post AFTER I've read it. That's kind of messy maybe? Otherwise I would prefer post actions below posts. Needing to scroll back up happens most frequently with large images ime.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: cat_examiner on March 05, 2019, 05:57:04 pm
top to bottom along the right side? [pro-status-quo otherwise]
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Mix on March 05, 2019, 07:51:37 pm
I prefer above, but I can't really give any solid reason why that hasn't already been said.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Turtle on March 05, 2019, 08:23:17 pm
I think I like the post actions below but I really don't like the bulb icon and count below.
Boots Raingear, March 05, 2019, 02:09:45 pm
I agree with this. Is there a secret third option where the bulbs stay up top? It's still a UX sin in terms of having to scroll back up from the post to bulb it, but bulbing a post is a lot less common than replying, quoting, etc.

That said, I can't justify why I like the bulbs on top as anything other than "Bulbs live up there, that's where bulbs live, that's their home." It's an appeal to the status quo to be sure, but bulbs are old enough to vote, so that has to count for something.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Frank West on March 05, 2019, 11:59:57 pm
We should have two sets of bulbs, one set above that people use to say how good they THINK the post is going to be before they read it, and then one set at the bottom where people say how good they thought the post was after they've read it. Here's the mock up:

(https://i.imgur.com/SLRDbuY.png)
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Macho Masc Sangy Savage on March 06, 2019, 07:54:56 am
We should have two sets of bulbs, one set above that people use to say how good they THINK the post is going to be before they read it, and then one set at the bottom where people say how good they thought the post was after they've read it. Here's the mock up:

(https://i.imgur.com/SLRDbuY.png)
Frank West, March 05, 2019, 11:59:57 pm

So is the side bulb count the alien overlords approval rating?
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Ragnarok Boobies on March 06, 2019, 09:36:32 am
We should have two sets of bulbs, one set above that people use to say how good they THINK the post is going to be before they read it, and then one set at the bottom where people say how good they thought the post was after they've read it. Here's the mock up:

(https://i.imgur.com/SLRDbuY.png)
Frank West, March 05, 2019, 11:59:57 pm

So is the side bulb count the alien overlords approval rating?
Degen Novel from Upcountry, March 06, 2019, 07:54:56 am
I can see why you’re confused. That’s what their totally normal lizard feet look like.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Shell Game on March 06, 2019, 05:16:12 pm
As always, I'm inclined to agree with Frank.
Title: POST ACTIONS: Above or below
Post by: Lemon on March 12, 2019, 04:28:00 pm
Alright, democracy happened.

The Keep Post Actions Where They Are (or "premain") voters outnumbered the Move The Post Actions To Underneath (or "plunder") voters by a margin of more than 3:1.  Keeping it as it is, closing the Github issue.