Snakes In The Ball Pit => Yay, I get to talk about me! => Topic started by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 08, 2013, 03:07:03 am
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 08, 2013, 03:07:03 am
Ask me metal questions. I will answer them or wear leather bracers.
IT'S ONE OF THE TWO, YOU DECIDE!
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: One Of The Crappy Pokemon That Nobody Likes on February 08, 2013, 03:32:46 am
JACK WHAT IS THE BEST METAL???
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO A METAL SHOW????
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: montrith on February 08, 2013, 03:52:52 am
LEAD OR COPPER?! IS SILVER JUST FOR PUSSIES?!!
Being serious for a moment though, what type of metal is best? Personally, I really like bands who play symphonic metal, for example Xandria, Stratovarius, Apocalyptica and Rhapsody, but I also love classics from the 70s and 80s such as Iron Maiden, Mötley Crue, Ratt etc. I'm also not opposed to little Slayer now and then.
Fuck Slipknot though.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Zsa Zsa on February 08, 2013, 07:48:56 am
Oi Jack I have a question:
In that Vulvectomy track you posted in the other thread, does the guy singing OR OR EAR AR OR OR OR EAR ROR ROR remind you of scooby doo?
Actually in your honor I have started listening through all the metal in my music library, I like Meshugga, Kowloon Walled City (sans their vocalist) and Horseback very much. Any suggestions for bands with interesting beats based on this stuff? Bear in mind that I once worked as a silversmith.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 09, 2013, 12:05:52 am
The best metal is the last show you went to. I'm all philosophical like that.
COME TO METALFORNIA. WE WILL CRUSH
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 09, 2013, 12:14:01 am
LEAD OR COPPER?! IS SILVER JUST FOR PUSSIES?!!
Being serious for a moment though, what type of metal is best? Personally, I really like bands who play symphonic metal, for example Xandria, Stratovarius, Apocalyptica and Rhapsody, but I also love classics from the 70s and 80s such as Iron Maiden, Mötley Crue, Ratt etc. I'm also not opposed to little Slayer now and then.
Hey dude. You should listen to what captures your imagination. Asking what the best metal is is like asking "what's the best air?" I would look into Kamelot (
) or Vesperian Sorrow
on the symphonic end. Enforcer and Holy Grail just put out new albums for the underground trad end...
and
Hyvää musiiki suomesta:
Teutonic Thrash (kinda slayer like):
Happy to provide recommendations wherever, if you wanna give me more context. Thanks!
-Jack
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 09, 2013, 12:16:49 am
Oi Jack I have a question:
In that Vulvectomy track you posted in the other thread, does the guy singing OR OR EAR AR OR OR OR EAR ROR ROR remind you of scooby doo?
Actually in your honor I have started listening through all the metal in my music library, I like Meshugga, Kowloon Walled City (sans their vocalist) and Horseback very much. Any suggestions for bands with interesting beats based on this stuff? Bear in mind that I once worked as a silversmith. Zsa Zsa, February 08, 2013, 07:48:56 am
Hey Zsa Zsa,
Slam lyrics are not meant to be listened to. You stop that right his instant and slam the sickness!
You seem to like pretentious stuff! You should check out Textures, Animals as Leaders, Periphery, Last Chance to Reason. More advanced level stuff may be Grayceon, Giant Squid, Sleep, Yob, Bongripper, and Sunn O))))))))))))))). Let me know what you think!
-Jack
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Zsa Zsa on February 09, 2013, 11:14:31 am
It is true, I cannot enjoy the sound of a dude ritually beating a drum kit to death with a guitar shaped like a medieval polearm unless his friend is clearly enunciating his thoughts about cosmetic genital surgery at the same time.
Jokes, man! Thanks for the recommendations, it's always good to get some direction.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Runic on February 09, 2013, 09:42:49 pm
What Heavy Metal are you listening to RIGHT NOW!
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 10, 2013, 04:47:13 pm
Bangover / Show high from sabaton / midnight chaser. also hatchet played but they suck.
Seriously though midnight chaser is fucking SICK. :D Sabaton's Ghost Division is the song I played just before I went to the show, so we can go with that.
Sabaton opened with ghost division, and closed with a track I don't know, they used to always close with Metal Machine.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: 🍆 on February 10, 2013, 07:00:55 pm
Do you know any other albums like Pink by Boris? I like the melodic/noisy combination but all my other dabblings in metal have found albums that are too much of one or the other. Probably because I know shit-all about the genre, tbh.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Turtle on February 11, 2013, 12:00:24 pm
I don't want to catch all metal, though, if I do that they can't continue metalling.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 11, 2013, 12:13:28 pm
I don't even know how I'd describe my tastes, but I have liked the Lynn Strait-era Snot, some Death by Stereo, Machine Head, a surprisingly large amount of the Korpiklaani output, and the more aggressive songs by such like Anthrax or GWAR. I've never been really a fan of the deathmetal growl, that's probably the most offputting aspect of it, though I've still liked the one Lamb of God song I heard on one of the Guitar Heroes (despite the hilariously awful lyrics)
So I'd like to catch more of that sort of metal, certainly. Not all of it, though, I want to leave at least a breeding pair in the wild.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 11, 2013, 12:50:10 pm
I don't even know how I'd describe my tastes, but I have liked the Lynn Strait-era Snot, some Death by Stereo, Machine Head, a surprisingly large amount of the Korpiklaani output, and the more aggressive songs by such like Anthrax or GWAR. I've never been really a fan of the deathmetal growl, that's probably the most offputting aspect of it, though I've still liked the one Lamb of God song I heard on one of the Guitar Heroes (despite the hilariously awful lyrics)
So I'd like to catch more of that sort of metal, certainly. Not all of it, though, I want to leave at least a breeding pair in the wild. Acierocolotl, February 11, 2013, 12:13:28 pm
Hey Dacey,
I'm not really into drone stuff, so I'm farming the question out to a bud of mine to see what he thinks. Off the top of my head I'd recommend Goblin Cock as I think that's somewhat similar, but it's not my forte.
Acier - You like thrash and folk metal. I would recommend bands like tyr, turisas, eluveitie, gama bomb, kreator. Do you like DRI? If you do, you should probably listen to toxic holocaust immediately if not sooner.
-Jack
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: fruit power on February 11, 2013, 02:32:45 pm
folk metal???
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 11, 2013, 03:05:20 pm
Youtube for "Korpiklaani". I would have called it Finnish drinky-metal but I'm F+'s resident expert at mangled English, not metal. Pretty much any song will do, but I have a fondness for "Vodka" due to the singer's enthusiastic near-miss at English. It's something like a lazer!
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: 🍆 on February 11, 2013, 08:55:52 pm
Youtube for "Korpiklaani". I would have called it Finnish drinky-metal but I'm F+'s resident expert at mangled English, not metal. Pretty much any song will do, but I have a fondness for "Vodka" due to the singer's enthusiastic near-miss at English. It's something like a lazer! Acierocolotl, February 11, 2013, 03:05:20 pm
You will feel awesome!
Just listened to all their alcohol related songs that I could find on Youtube. Disappointed there's not one called Gin.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Acierocolotl on February 11, 2013, 09:30:42 pm
Acier - You like thrash and folk metal. I would recommend bands like tyr, turisas, eluveitie, gama bomb, kreator. Do you like DRI? If you do, you should probably listen to toxic holocaust immediately if not sooner. jack-chick, February 11, 2013, 12:50:10 pm
Definitely, definitely on the thrash metal side of things, upon locating things off your list. DRI just took me right back, that's for sure.
A small selection bands I've seen live, just to add to your catalogue:
Anonymus - trilingual Quebecois thrash metal, probably the most violent moshpit I've ever been in. Tagada Jones - second-most violent moshpit, with giant-ass corn-fed motherfuckers with sharp-spiked shoulders on their jackets trying to shouldercheck anybody in the pit. Correspondingly, swiftly the deadest pit I've ever been in and more's the pity. BARF - While not always to my liking, a group willing to make a heavy metal dirge with Frenglish lyrics about a little fish caught in a mudpuddle amuses. Lofofora: Probably progrock? They do cover a lot of different styles, though I'd probably suggest just finding the different versions of "Les Gens" (versus "Les Gens de Maintenant") they do to get a taste. Also the singer is unnervingly weird on stage.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 11, 2013, 11:26:22 pm
I'm seeing Meshuggah next week in Boston.
Something. It's been forever since I've been to a metal concert, can't wait to get pushed into a fat guy. Geremy Tibbles, February 11, 2013, 09:06:16 pm
the one time I saw meshuggah it was super mellow. Just people headbanging and blissing out. Let me know how it goes! That's a great band! :D
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 11, 2013, 11:27:56 pm
It's a side project of the guys in Sunn O))))))))))))). You might want to check out acid witch, although they're probably too riffy for you. Really I just want to plug them bc they're awesome. Also if you don't know Cynic, that may be good for you.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Bunnybread on February 12, 2013, 12:14:12 am
Jack Chick, you gotta help me. I'm normally not a metal guy, obviously, but I do like an axe that is wielded by a pro. Now, is there any more stuff that features guitar shreddings like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xBM1LCZKkQg&feature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xBM1LCZKkQg&feature=fvwp) I mean, I hope that there are some other guys that are in this echelon because I desperately need to hear more of this shit.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 12, 2013, 12:59:55 am
Jack Chick, you gotta help me. I'm normally not a metal guy, obviously, but I do like an axe that is wielded by a pro. Now, is there any more stuff that features guitar shreddings like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xBM1LCZKkQg&feature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xBM1LCZKkQg&feature=fvwp) I mean, I hope that there are some other guys that are in this echelon because I desperately need to hear more of this shit. bunnybread, February 12, 2013, 12:14:12 am
Hey Bunnybread, I think this is a bit problematic. See, you're starting with something that's just a liiiiiiittle too progressive, which will decrease your listening enjoyment.
I feel you should start with something a little easier, like this here
I'll also post this for you:
Hope this helps!
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: montrith on February 12, 2013, 11:06:51 am
Anyone who likes Korpiklaani might want to check out Amorphis or Finntroll. The first is perhaps a bit more mainstream, but Finntroll has just the right amount of ridiculous in it.
I've also been listening a bit of Kivimetsän Druidi, who apparently filmed their music video in Skyrim.
Also including this because I love this song.
EDIT: Oh look. Something for bunnybread too.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2013, 02:34:43 pm
Haha, as soon as the first Finnish band showed up I wondered if Montrith would uphold the stereotype and recommend some metal from her homeland. I now like to imagine that Finnish babies are born with a metal playlist tattooed on their arm, written in runes.
It's kind of like how American babies are born eating a hamburger and hating taxes.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 12, 2013, 04:12:37 pm
Haha, as soon as the first Finnish band showed up I wondered if Montrith would uphold the stereotype and recommend some metal from her homeland. I now like to imagine that Finnish babies are born with a metal playlist tattooed on their arm, written in runes.
It's kind of like how American babies are born eating a hamburger and hating taxes. Isfahan, February 12, 2013, 02:34:43 pm
Really I think you need to be listening to Hevisaurus, which will explain everything you need to know about Finland and metal.
I figured everyone here knows about Finntroll, since I spaz out about them quite a bit (them being one of my favorite bands). But yeah you should pick up all of their albums! :D
Also Montrith, no love for Ensiferum?
-Jack
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: montrith on February 12, 2013, 04:44:54 pm
Oh, very funny you two. Listen, we Finns are like the dwarfs of Europe. We may not be the prettiest or the wittiest people around, but by Ukko we know our metal! If you're a Finn you will like metal, or you will have a lousy time. After all, this guy got a street named after him, and he's not even that heavy. (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vDVGrBWtyKE/T7YcHkRQo-I/AAAAAAAAQiU/lTvbgQzJ1YE/s1600/mr+lordi.jpg)
And this guy was voted the most popular fictional character.
Ensiferum is okay, but not in my top 10. For those who are not so into heavy, you might want to check out Poets of the Fall. If you've ever played Max Payne, you already know what I'm talking about.
There, was that enough Finnish nationalism for you?
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: fruit power on February 12, 2013, 05:08:53 pm
Have the Moomins been used in metal? Please say yes.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Isfahan on February 12, 2013, 06:10:30 pm
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 12, 2013, 07:07:24 pm
Oh, very funny you two. Listen, we Finns are like the dwarfs of Europe. We may not be the prettiest or the wittiest people around, but by Ukko we know our metal! If you're a Finn you will like metal, or you will have a lousy time. After all, this guy got a street named after him, and he's not even that heavy. (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vDVGrBWtyKE/T7YcHkRQo-I/AAAAAAAAQiU/lTvbgQzJ1YE/s1600/mr+lordi.jpg)
And this guy was voted the most popular fictional character.
Ensiferum is okay, but not in my top 10. For those who are not so into heavy, you might want to check out Poets of the Fall. If you've ever played Max Payne, you already know what I'm talking about.
Lololol with the poets of the fall, why not put on the HIM or the Poisonblack? ;) Although anything with Ville Laihiala will do...
As I'm sure a bunch of people can attest, I have nothing but love for Finland, and there's plenty more Finnish metal bands I can post, but with the current direction of this thread I don't think anyone here wants Behexen, Satanic Warmaster, or Rotten sound. :P
-Jack
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Runic on February 12, 2013, 09:53:09 pm
Oh, very funny you two. Listen, we Finns are like the dwarfs of Europe. We may not be the prettiest or the wittiest people around, but by Ukko we know our metal! If you're a Finn you will like metal, or you will have a lousy time. montrith, February 12, 2013, 04:44:54 pm
There's just something about your country that brings all that rage and discontent to the surface. Possibly the food?
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: montrith on February 12, 2013, 10:24:56 pm
why not put on the HIM or the Poisonblack
Because they suck.
But seriously, I'm done derailing jack's thread. I give the floor back to you, maestro. Though you must understand that make fun of our music again and I'm legally obligated to fly there and punch you in the tits. Nothing personal you understand, it's just that they'll kick me out of the country if I don't do that.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: cyclopeantrash on February 12, 2013, 11:36:54 pm
As I'm sure a bunch of people can attest, I have nothing but love for Finland, and there's plenty more Finnish metal bands I can post, but with the current direction of this thread I don't think anyone here wants Behexen, Satanic Warmaster, or Rotten sound. :P
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on February 13, 2013, 02:44:54 am
As I'm sure a bunch of people can attest, I have nothing but love for Finland, and there's plenty more Finnish metal bands I can post, but with the current direction of this thread I don't think anyone here wants Behexen, Satanic Warmaster, or Rotten sound. :P
Montrith - I have absolutely nothing but love and respect for Finland and it's music.
MicroMissiles:
1) Made it through about 5 minutes. Too slows/borings for me. In general, I find doom metal extremely boring (and pretty much anything else slow). They had some interesting work with textures coming at around 3 min, but not enough to really hold my interest. Also clean singing without a proper transition or setup coming off abrasive vocals always rubs me the wrong way. 2) I'm noticing a trend here. This is MUCH better. Excellent layering. The interlude is fucking fantastic. Linked to a couple buddies. Excellent find. Thanks! 3) I feel like I'm at ren faire. Where are my pantaloons?? A lot of this works and a lot of it doesn't. I want them to take a step back and simplify, they're trying to do too much and nothing really stands out. :| Doing a little reading it seems like this is the closer to a full album, which is probably a little divorced from the context of the album. I'll listen to a couple other tracks and see if I like em better. 4) This is excellent. Really like the slow evolution aped from electronica. Hungary has put out a ton of fantastic stuff lately, come to think of it. Great scene there.
(marblebog side project) 5) Based on the cover art, I'm going to like the hell out of this. Upon listening, it's ok. Nothing exceptional, which is a bit disappointing. USBM has a lot of great stuff lately. High hopes? :/ 6) I like this a lot more.
Your taste seems to extend to longer tracks (everything you linked was around 10 minutes), with major transitions occurring halfway through. It's a pretty peculiar set of stuff!
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: montrith on February 13, 2013, 03:39:02 am
Speaking of long tracks, when is Fplus going to fill it's obligation as an Internet Thing and include a sample of Ghost Love Score? I think they take your computer away if you do a thing with music and don't use it, or does that only apply for videos. I'll check those links out later, since I'm on my way to a job interview right now.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: cyclopeantrash on February 13, 2013, 06:33:17 am
1) Made it through about 5 minutes. Too slows/borings for me. In general, I find doom metal extremely boring (and pretty much anything else slow). They had some interesting work with textures coming at around 3 min, but not enough to really hold my interest. Also clean singing without a proper transition or setup coming off abrasive vocals always rubs me the wrong way. 2) I'm noticing a trend here. This is MUCH better. Excellent layering. The interlude is fucking fantastic. Linked to a couple buddies. Excellent find. Thanks! 3) I feel like I'm at ren faire. Where are my pantaloons?? A lot of this works and a lot of it doesn't. I want them to take a step back and simplify, they're trying to do too much and nothing really stands out. :| Doing a little reading it seems like this is the closer to a full album, which is probably a little divorced from the context of the album. I'll listen to a couple other tracks and see if I like em better. 4) This is excellent. Really like the slow evolution aped from electronica. Hungary has put out a ton of fantastic stuff lately, come to think of it. Great scene there.
(marblebog side project) 5) Based on the cover art, I'm going to like the hell out of this. Upon listening, it's ok. Nothing exceptional, which is a bit disappointing. USBM has a lot of great stuff lately. High hopes? :/ 6) I like this a lot more.
Your taste seems to extend to longer tracks (everything you linked was around 10 minutes), with major transitions occurring halfway through. It's a pretty peculiar set of stuff! jack-chick, February 12, 2013, 07:07:24 pm
That's a pretty concise examination. And how was I unaware of anything extending from Marblebog? Hungary does have quite the good output considering it's population. Kinda sucks that it shares Ukraine's association with NS metal. But what'll ya do? Anyway, here's another salvo of tracks.
Speaking of Ukrainian NS metal!
I'm pretty sure every self respecting BM fan knows of these guys.
Black metal plus krautrock.
Not metal in the slightest but worthy of attention nonetheless.
Irish folk metal.
Black metal gone Hemmingway.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: Geremy Tibbles on February 17, 2013, 09:08:28 pm
Meshuggah was amazing. Floor lost it when Combustion came on and the entire general admissions turned into a (very nice) pit for the entire song.
Otherwise pretty relaxed for a metal concert.
Title: Catch all metal thread
Post by: TheCrawlingChaos on March 25, 2013, 05:56:33 am
Speaking of long tracks, when is Fplus going to fill it's obligation as an Internet Thing and include a sample of Ghost Love Score? I think they take your computer away if you do a thing with music and don't use it, or does that only apply for videos. I'll check those links out later, since I'm on my way to a job interview right now. montrith, February 13, 2013, 03:39:02 am
I'd settle for their cover of Over the Hills, myself. That seems to be another popular option.