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Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: KingKalamari on June 26, 2013, 05:57:27 pm
So the recent MRA episode got me thinking: What F+ subjects do people find the most hatable?

There have been a lot of off-putting, disgusting and generally uncomfortable people featured on the podcast (Bug-fuckers, adult babies, Supernatural fans) but I really can't say that I actually hate any of those types of exhibits. They may make my skin crawl but I can't say I'd actively wish ill on them: They're just people with weird fetishes and no conversation filter.

No, the only exhibits I can say that I genuinely hate are the ones that are actively sexist, racist or just otherwise bigoted and hateful. Things like the MRAs, the PUAs, the crazy Mexican haters and our friends at Conservapedia are the only ones that I can say I legitimately think are bad people.

What about you guys?
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on June 26, 2013, 06:14:17 pm
Tumblr asexuals/gray-a people/anyone who's into that whole lexicon of bullshit. They just make me ridiculously mad, because they're grasping at the tiniest straws to try and make themselves miserable so they can be noble suffering heroes against the world.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Ansemaru on June 26, 2013, 07:23:53 pm
It's a toss-up between PUAs and the rampant xenophobes. I'd throw the Conservapedia folks in there, too, but their grasp on reality is so laughably incompetent that they don't feel nearly as threatening to the well-being of real people as anybody in the other two groups.

As a bonus round, the Escapist forumites and TV Tropers are really hard for me to listen to because they are irritating on a deep and fundamental level for me, since I'm way too familiar with both of those sites.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: STOG on June 26, 2013, 07:41:22 pm
I don't rank irritating subjects, but video game forum commenters are that malnourished kind of stupid that I simultaneously like and dislike. They are a bit like dumb puppies, except they roll in their own shit and are prone to misandry.

(Also Matthew Moulton is the #1 least likeable subject, but you didn't hear that from meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: PurpleXVI on June 26, 2013, 08:10:47 pm
TV Tropers and misogynists, I'd say, because it seems like... willful cuntery, rather than just some sort of fundamental broken thing in their heads that I can pity.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Cyberventurer on June 26, 2013, 08:26:20 pm
I had to pause the demon otherkin one because it was the first time I heard of someone whining about being oppressed and victimized in his past life, mixed with having some sort of father/son incest kink and reservation of female pronouns as some sort of intimate act.  It was this weird, sludgy mix of stupid that I had to digest for a moment before continuing with the episode.

The first half of the adult baby one just infuriated me, though.  "Milking your sissy clit for cummies" is a phrase I wish I could unlearn.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Xenomantid on June 26, 2013, 09:34:02 pm
I agree with KingKalamari entirely. It's difficult for me to be angry at the Tumblr asexuals, despite their misrepresentation of a characteristic I have, because it seems as though most of those people are trying to navigate through a confusing time in or aspect of their lives and, for whatever reason, use popular television series as their compass. (In fact, I have a whole miniature essay explaining my hypothesis of the root causes of the Tumblr asexual mentality [and those causes aren't all persecution complexes], but I'll save it for the person who asks to see it.)

But yes, the genuinely hateful people, in my opinion, are the only ones who deserve contempt in return. Virtually all the other subjects on The F Plus are either just whiny and self-absorbed or open about proclivities that, while probably best if locked up in the dark, are most likely inconsequential. (One does, however, have to pity the insects that fell prey to the entomophiles' lust.) What makes Episode 103 a frequent listen for me is that it consists of men--and one woman--excoriating other men for hating women. I suspect that that was the actual reason why most of the submissions of that topic came from women: they wanted to bask in a sorely needed verbal pummeling of male chauvinists.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on June 26, 2013, 10:07:18 pm
Send me your essay. I wish to know!

The MRA episode I found so absurd that I had trouble believing anyone outside of a mental hospital really holds the opinions these guys do. Maybe I'm still in shock, who knows. For me though, it's the multiples and the unschoolers that get my blood boiling. Even though I contributed content to the multiples episode, it's the only one I can't listen to.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: cyclopeantrash on June 26, 2013, 11:53:24 pm
I agree, show us the essay!

But yeah as far as least likeable things, I've really nothing else to add that hasn't already been said in this thread. Though Even Nonsense was an unpleasant episode as it made me as angry as I was confused. There's something about that kind of narcissism (or narcissism in general) that really makes me angry. I may just be a petty person though, who knows.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: montrith on June 27, 2013, 12:48:33 am
Dude, I don't do hate, it's bad for my karma.

That being said, I have a vehement dislike for subjects that are actually harming other humans with their shitty opinions. Unschoolers come to mind (just vaccinate your baby you cunt!), but watersnobs are also particularly aggravating to me, since I've got a huge issue with people trying to transform basic human necessities into some sort luxury goods. I bet the watersnobs would buy premium canned air too, should somebody start selling that.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Baldr on June 27, 2013, 03:12:22 pm
I haven't hated or disliked any of the featured writers so far.  There's usually a complete split where I'm either really entertained by them or I feel really bad for them.  The MRA episode didn't bother me at all, since those people are already punishing themselves by letting those dumb opinions ricochet around the inside of their skulls.  The resulting damage from that nonsense is a life spent being out of touch with reality or the inability to connect with others.  Possibly both.

Occasionally a man reaches a point where being himself is its own punishment, and I couldn't imagine anything worse than that to wish on him, even if I wanted to.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Bobalay on June 28, 2013, 12:57:46 am
As bad as the MRAs were, the PUA episode (though really, there's probably a lot of overlap between the two) is the most infuriating for me.  I can never make it through the episode in one sitting, especially because one of the posts is a guy bragging about how he raped someone at a party.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Sherlockian on June 29, 2013, 03:35:52 pm
What makes Episode 103 a frequent listen for me is that it consists of men--and one woman--excoriating other men for hating women. I suspect that that was the actual reason why most of the submissions of that topic came from women: they wanted to bask in a sorely needed verbal pummeling of male chauvinists.
Xenomantid, June 26, 2013, 09:34:02 pm

Precisely. I know that a major reason for my submission of the document is that humor is one of the best ways to break down harmful opinions into something biodegradable.

I don't really hate anyone that gets read-- most of them are just too self-absorbed for me to really dislike them.  I reserve my contempt for people who have enough self-awareness to know better.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Boy Horny on July 01, 2013, 04:22:19 pm
Honestly, pretty much everyone featured on The F Plus is downright lovable compared to the creeps that Lou reads.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Bobalay on July 01, 2013, 08:50:35 pm
The first episode of Lou Reads that I heard was the Dick Flash episode.

I... think I'm gonna stick with the F+ for the time being.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Alpha Starsquatch on July 01, 2013, 09:51:23 pm
I think part of what makes it more bearable is the readers suffering with you and cracking jokes every once in a while— whereas Lou just reading it straight makes you feel the full force of the blow.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on July 01, 2013, 11:00:52 pm
Honestly, pretty much everyone featured on The F Plus is downright lovable compared to the creeps that Lou reads.
Boy Horny, July 01, 2013, 04:22:19 pm
Except for the stoners and the people who had gotten terrible Christmas presents over at SomethingAwful.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Delcat on July 02, 2013, 12:40:16 am
I agree with Healslime's post, but I can't feel the same way about fundies.  The damage they do is very real, which is why they're one of my favorite subjects.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Boy Horny on July 02, 2013, 12:45:11 am
You're gonna want to avoid his cum eating episode
and that dark fetish episode
and the bestiality-justifying episode
and his first vore episode (I don't think that the pokemon vore one is that bad)
and the fetlife episode
and the large penis episode
and the small penis episode
and the penis enlargement episode
and the eunuch episode
and the zootube one
and the stormfront oneobjectivelyhorribleperson, July 01, 2013, 09:24:42 pm
The bugchasers episode is just fine though.  And it's not what you think - there are no insects involved at all!  (http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)







it's unimaginably worse than that (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-gonk.gif)
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Delcat on July 02, 2013, 01:14:19 am
The bugchasers episode is just fine though.  And it's not what you think - there are no insects involved at all!
Boy Horny, July 02, 2013, 12:45:11 am

Oh good Lord no.  The relief I had that the F+ bug ep wasn't about bugchasing is evaporating.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: agentanalogue on July 02, 2013, 01:09:04 pm
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Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: chai tea latte on July 03, 2013, 01:27:54 am
As an Official Gay Person I'm authorized to tell you all that bugchasing is 95% made up and 5% elaborate roleplay.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: agentanalogue on July 03, 2013, 02:16:02 pm
Yeah, I actually HAVE listened to Lou's bugchaser episode, and I felt similarly horrified at first too.  but now that I have a year's emotional distance, I realize that HAD to be fantasy.  if nothing else there's a tipoff in the 'My Biker Friend' part.  lots of urban legend-y things involve random bikers, kind of like the demon's episode of F-Plus (her boyfriend was a biker and had a curse of SUBJUGATION upon her etc..etc...)
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Yossarian on July 03, 2013, 04:28:55 pm
Like a lot of the super crazy fetish shit theirs probably that .01% that really is into it, and the occasional guy who cuts and runs at the last second but its easy to believe most of it is just complete lies. Lou breaks character surprisingly infrequently, though how and why he recorded at work I'll never understand.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Isfahan on July 03, 2013, 06:15:41 pm
Like a lot of the super crazy fetish shit theirs probably that .01% that really is into it, and the occasional guy who cuts and runs at the last second but its easy to believe most of it is just complete lies. Lou breaks character surprisingly infrequently, though how and why he recorded at work I'll never understand.
Yossarian, July 03, 2013, 04:28:55 pm

It keeps people from bugging him.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Goose Goose Honk At Me Now on July 07, 2013, 12:25:03 am
As an Official Gay Person I'm authorized to tell you all that bugchasing is 95% made up and 5% elaborate roleplay.
kal-elk, July 03, 2013, 01:27:54 am

I dunno, the rape story that guy talks about is creepily specific...
objectivelyhorribleperson, July 06, 2013, 08:29:32 pm

So is a description of a lady that gives the weight of her breasts and the ratio of that to her total body weight.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: chai tea latte on July 07, 2013, 12:32:53 am
As an Official Gay Person I'm authorized to tell you all that bugchasing is 95% made up and 5% elaborate roleplay.
kal-elk, July 03, 2013, 01:27:54 am

I dunno, the rape story that guy talks about is creepily specific...
objectivelyhorribleperson, July 06, 2013, 08:29:32 pm
Yeah, like Cuddles says, lots of weird fetish stuff is. Think back to the -17.5 / -14 with three diopters glasses over contact lenses stuff from She Thinks My Sex Are Spexy.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Delcat on July 07, 2013, 02:37:42 am
And you thought algebra would never be useful in the real world!

My copy of She Thinks My Sex Are Spexy is glitched and I'm reluctant to fix it because I keep hearing vague, unsettling things about the last (?) subject and I have complex, specific eye problems.  I'm probably picturing much worse things than are actually in the episode, but I'm afraid they'll start describing the corrective equipment in my bad eye and I'll never leave the house again.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Chaz on July 07, 2013, 07:31:25 am
Unschoolers and Child-Free Hardcore people are my least liked subjects, which is why I'm glad they were covered. I'm saying this as someone who at this point in time intends to live a child-free life, for the sole reason that I'm not fit for parenting right now. Other people can have kids, I don't mind, if they want to raise a family that's great, I'd just prefer not to myself.

And that's where the Hardcore section of this group goes off the damn rails, talking about how NOBODY SHOULD HAVE BABIES EVER BECAUSE THEY'RE DEMONSPAWN and such.

I dunno, I'm just rambling at this point. I don't want kids, but I don't think it's anyone's business to meddle in the affairs of people who do want kids, is what I'm getting at.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: icarus on July 07, 2013, 08:48:50 am
i think in general any subject where people are actively making others behave in antisocial or toxic ways are kinda :\

PUAs, MRAs, unschoolers, CF-hardcore, fat activism, otherkin and tumblr asexuals all sort of fall under this umbrella.

there's something charming about the madness of monkeymoms or the delusions of failed kickstarters, something endearing about terrible fanfiction and weird fetishes.

but i think it's because ultimately those people do harm only to themselves (or their monkeys i guess) and you can sort of chuckle at it.

but when people are actively working to deconstruct basic necessary societal elements (like respect of women, trying to stay mildly healthy, trying to function like a normal human, looking down on others for the basic desire to reproduce, actively attempting to raise a child who can't behave well in a structured social setting etc) there's a line that gets toed across where while you can laugh, you also really really want these people to stop.
because while bad fanfiction might make you cringe a little at someone's lack of writing ability, it's not going to leak into the real world and have actual ramifications if it does. well, unless you count twilight. but even twilight doesn't fuck shit up like an unschooler can fuck up a classroom (or a kid) or a pua/mra can fuck up a woman's life via abuse or pushing for weird regulations.

the rediculists manage to make even the abhorant topics really funny, though, which is part of why i like the podcast.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Isfahan on July 07, 2013, 09:34:37 am
My copy of She Thinks My Sex Are Spexy is glitched and I'm reluctant to fix it because I keep hearing vague, unsettling things about the last (?) subject and I have complex, specific eye problems.Delcat, July 07, 2013, 02:37:42 am

I'm gonna make fixing your copy as easy as I can (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheFPlus/~5/G2kKulxc0kY/fplus_051.mp3).
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Delcat on July 07, 2013, 08:35:44 pm
You're a peach, Isfahan.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Emperor Jack Chick on July 07, 2013, 09:48:42 pm
As an Official Gay Person I'm authorized to tell you all that bugchasing is 95% made up and 5% elaborate roleplay.
kal-elk, July 03, 2013, 01:27:54 am

I dunno, the rape story that guy talks about is creepily specific...
objectivelyhorribleperson, July 06, 2013, 08:29:32 pm
Yeah, like Cuddles says, lots of weird fetish stuff is. Think back to the -17.5 / -14 with three diopters glasses over contact lenses stuff from She Thinks My Sex Are Spexy.
kal-elk, July 07, 2013, 12:32:53 am

Apropos of nothing, finding content for the spex episode was amazingly fun. It was myself and Portaxx on skype linking things back and forth and giggling constantly, trying to out-weird the other one.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: chai tea latte on July 08, 2013, 09:33:31 pm
As an Official Gay Person I'm authorized to tell you all that bugchasing is 95% made up and 5% elaborate roleplay.
kal-elk, July 03, 2013, 01:27:54 am

I dunno, the rape story that guy talks about is creepily specific...
objectivelyhorribleperson, July 06, 2013, 08:29:32 pm
Yeah, like Cuddles says, lots of weird fetish stuff is. Think back to the -17.5 / -14 with three diopters glasses over contact lenses stuff from She Thinks My Sex Are Spexy.
kal-elk, July 07, 2013, 12:32:53 am

Apropos of nothing, finding content for the spex episode was amazingly fun. It was myself and Portaxx on skype linking things back and forth and giggling constantly, trying to out-weird the other one.
jack-chick, July 07, 2013, 09:48:42 pm

This sounds super delightful, thank you for that mental image!
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: 🍆 on July 15, 2013, 09:26:06 pm
Not nearly as terrible as most of the groups already mentioned, but a special shout out to the Premium Bottled Water guys. Would that they all had one dick so I could repeatedly punch them in it.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: chai tea latte on July 16, 2013, 01:54:00 am
Not nearly as terrible as most of the groups already mentioned, but a special shout out to the Premium Bottled Water guys. Would that they all had one dick so I could repeatedly punch them in it.
Dacey Mormont, July 15, 2013, 09:26:06 pm

I couldn't, and still can't, get through that episode. Somehow they bother me more than the fetishists and misogynists on a inner level--I think one of the Ridiculists during the episode yells "WE'RE IN A RECESSION, FUCK YOU"--I just can't mentally deal with people for whom a $30 bottle of goddamn water is a reasonable thing that can exist.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Chaz on July 16, 2013, 07:59:15 am
As Lemon put it in that episode: "This is why I'm glad the recession's hit, because shit like this... all those fuckers in Dubai are doing really poor right now and that's good for... civilization."
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: hautecouture on August 06, 2013, 05:18:10 pm
Mostly I just hate all the bigots - misogynists, racists, homophobes, etc. The stupid internet people (nerds, fanfiction writers, loki brides, etc) just make me laugh. I can't really hate them because they're just people doing something that they like that may be extremely stupid, but they at least (mostly) keep it to themselves. I can't make myself listen to most of the sexual episodes because they creep me out too much, but I just feel sorry for the subjects of the ones I have listened to.
Title: Least likeable subjects
Post by: Delcat on August 06, 2013, 11:43:28 pm
I can't make myself listen to most of the sexual episodes because they creep me out too much, but I just feel sorry for the subjects of the ones I have listened to.
hautecouture, August 06, 2013, 05:18:10 pm

I misread this as "the ones I have to listen to" and was briefly alarmed that someone was forcing you to listen to fetish eps of the F+ for reasons unknown.