Snakes In The Ball Pit => How I choose to spend my time => TeeVee => Topic started by: Cleretic on April 23, 2016, 08:15:34 pm
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on April 23, 2016, 08:15:34 pm
For full effect, just assume that everyone in this thread is wearing a TARDIS dress, really long scarf, and a bow tie.
They revealed the new companion today. She seems pretty fun, might be from the eighties, and given when they probably filmed it has worryingly prescient taste in clothes.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Agent (gobble, gobble) Coop on April 23, 2016, 08:19:16 pm
Doctor Who's on first
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: positive stress on April 23, 2016, 08:54:26 pm
I've seen like four episodes, goodbye!
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: eldritchhat on April 23, 2016, 09:46:25 pm
Isn't this the talk show with aliens?
E.T. + Dr. Phil = Dr. Who?
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Yavuz on April 23, 2016, 09:59:05 pm
I haven't seen any of it since I left for grad school (I'm not paying for cable for myself), so how has Capaldi been?
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on April 23, 2016, 11:07:04 pm
I haven't seen any of it since I left for grad school (I'm not paying for cable for myself), so how has Capaldi been? Yavuz Sultan Selim, April 23, 2016, 09:59:05 pm
Capaldi's fantastic, although the writing haven't always been. His characterization was a bit shaky and rough in his first season; they knew they wanted this Doctor to be rough and assholish but ultimately kind and well-meaning, but interpretations of that varied from 'autistic' to 'out of touch dad' to 'military officer'. Most of the stories are really good, but the character's inconsistent.
His second season isn't as good (although I still think pretty highly of it as a package), but its greatest strength is that they found a direction that worked for the character: he's basically an aging punk rocker from the 70s, and they have so much fun with that. Most of all him; he's clearly having so much fun every time he gets to break out the guitar.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Ashto on April 24, 2016, 11:22:52 am
For full effect, just assume that everyone in this thread is wearing a TARDIS dress, really long scarf, and a bow tie. Cleretic, April 23, 2016, 08:15:34 pm
Excuse me a moment, I need to make a call.
"Hey, mom, I changed my mind. I want to be like Cleretic when I grow up!"
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: SatanInAZootSuit on April 24, 2016, 11:34:32 am
I tried so hard to watch Dr. Who, and enjoyed what I saw, but it seemed to be trying to be smart seeming without any real depth
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Mu. on April 24, 2016, 12:14:01 pm
I enjoy watching Doctor Who mainly as a ridiculous nonsense spectacle for children with some occasionally interesting character work and novel settings or plot devices. I would probably enjoy anime if I got around to watching it.
I also like the old show and think it's generally smarter that the 2005 revival, especially post-Moffat's showrunning. I have many tedious Doctor Who opinions.
Edit: The clip seems good. The new companion reminds me of Donna, which owns. Clara was always kind of a nothing character to me, despite Jenna Coleman's good efforts.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on April 24, 2016, 07:17:15 pm
You know, as much as I liked the seasons when Clara was around (for the most part; season 7 is probably my least favorite when you exclude the 50th anniversary stuff), I would agree. Jenna Coleman is fun enough as an actress, I liked the character well enough, but she was just sort of... there. A very 'standard' companion, she didn't really do much to distinguish herself.
I have a great respect for Donna as a companion, and I'm pretty happy to have another companion like her (especially if, like some people are suspecting, Bill is from the 80s), but personally my favorite was always Amy. It was probably a combination of her having a pretty strong character, the Cracks from season 5 (which she was pretty heavily connected to during all that) being extremely my jam, and Karen Gillan just being really pretty.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Amelia Blank on April 25, 2016, 07:35:31 pm
Doctor Who is my jam! I will say the classic series is probably more interestingly written and more willing to take chances? I personally really like the Moffat era a LOT more than the one before it since he seems to understand Doctor Who as a character and a concept much better?
I love love love Capaldi! He owns that role! I also loved Clara! I feel like her arc was pretty interesting, basically slowly giving into her control freak tendencies and picking up the Doctor's worst habits.
Bill looks super fun! I feel like there could maybe be a Seven and Ace type thing going on (highly speculating of course) which I would love! I also love the idea of her being from the eighties.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: memorylikeasieve on May 14, 2016, 02:35:13 am
So far, I like Pearl Mackie and her character. Bill (shades of Ace, I hope) sounds like a breath of fresh air after Clara, who was slowly morphing into a Mary Sue/Tumblrina hybrid.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: chai tea latte on May 14, 2016, 07:52:53 am
Oh shit, I liked Ace. Can someone recommend a good Capaldi episode?
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Amelia Blank on May 14, 2016, 05:18:33 pm
I'd say there are two classics that stand on their own without needing to know the overall arc of the season. There's "Listen" from Series 8 and "Heaven Sent" from Series 9.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Mu. on May 16, 2016, 02:41:56 pm
Oh shit, I liked Ace. Can someone recommend a good Capaldi episode? chai tea latte, May 14, 2016, 07:52:53 am
Mummy on the Orient Express and Flatline. The latter one is the better one.
I thought Listen was a bit naff, personally.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on May 28, 2016, 11:59:26 pm
For everyone's entertainment, someone on Twitter found and shared an early potential cast list for the Doctor in the 1996 TV movie. And there's some great hypothetical castings in here.
Paul McGann, who eventually got the role, is pretty high up there. But also on his level is Eric Idle and Jeff Goldblum, that guy from The Thick Of It is also pretty high on the shortlist, and there might be a far-flung alternate universe where David Bowie played the Doctor as well as being the Doctor.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: memorylikeasieve on May 29, 2016, 09:06:56 pm
...Not gonna lie, I'd love to see Billy Connolly as the Doctor, but we already have a Scotsman who has to exercise all the restraint ever to avoid screaming, 'FUCK.' Still, a windswept and interesting Doctor would be fun.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on December 25, 2016, 09:09:37 pm
Guess what? The Doctor Who Christmas special is pretty good! Matt Lucas is gonna be a pretty fun addition to the regular cast.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on April 05, 2017, 03:10:23 am
Okay so the new season is in about ten days, I've been steering clear of most spoilers, but a few little bits that are worth noting before then:
-This will be both Peter Capaldi and Stephen Moffat's last year. We don't yet know who the next Doctor is after Capaldi (don't get excited because this is never accurate, but to some the frontrunner is Tilda Swinton), but Chris Chibnaill is going to be taking over from Moffat as showrunner. He'll be taking a more writers-room approach than has been done in the past for Who, which should help reduce the issues with Chibnaill's writing that came about particularly in his Torchwood work.
-According to the actress, the new companion is going to be openly gay. So that's cool!
-Spoilery reveal for for some later-season stuff: Possibly as a going-away present to Peter Capaldi, we are getting a two-parter with O.G. Mondas Cybermen. As in the stocking-masked, wearing-air-conditioning, 'older than Murphy's avatar' versions of the Cybermen..
And in other news, Americans here should look into the Britbox streaming service, which is going to have the largest ever archive of instant-streaming Classic Who. Personally that's everything I've ever wanted from a streaming service, but it hasn't touched down in Australia yet so I'm very jealous.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on May 14, 2017, 03:59:22 am
Okay, so far this season's episodes have been about:
-Lesbians wanting to run away together. -That you should respect a society that was there before you. -17th-Century London was just like, the fucking worst unless you were a rich white dude. -Eating young people to prolong the life of the old. -Late-stage capitalism in space.
What I'm saying is that the writers got fucking MAD at modern politics and society, and it's the best.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: FinchChunk on May 14, 2017, 06:16:44 am
Okay, so far this season's episodes have been about:
-Lesbians wanting to run away together. -That you should respect a society that was there before you. -17th-Century London was just like, the fucking worst unless you were a rich white dude. -Eating young people to prolong the life of the old. -Late-stage capitalism in space.
What I'm saying is that the writers got fucking MAD at modern politics and society, and it's the best. Cleretic, May 14, 2017, 03:59:22 am
At it's best Doctor Who was always good for social commentary (I'm thinking particularly of Sylvester McCoy's run).
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on May 14, 2017, 06:38:31 am
Okay, so far this season's episodes have been about:
-Lesbians wanting to run away together. -That you should respect a society that was there before you. -17th-Century London was just like, the fucking worst unless you were a rich white dude. -Eating young people to prolong the life of the old. -Late-stage capitalism in space.
What I'm saying is that the writers got fucking MAD at modern politics and society, and it's the best. Cleretic, May 14, 2017, 03:59:22 am
At it's best Doctor Who was always good for social commentary (I'm thinking particularly of Sylvester McCoy's run). FinchChunk, May 14, 2017, 06:16:44 am
Someone on SA has put forward the theory that The Happiness Patrol is required viewing for all writers this season. And it's one of those notions that you can't easily knock back, because if it was true it'd look exactly the same.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: FinchChunk on May 14, 2017, 06:47:45 am
I like that idea.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: FinchChunk on July 16, 2017, 02:41:58 am
So, are we getting a female doctor? Bill's line about liking women, and someone around her old age, seemed like a hint to me.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on July 16, 2017, 06:17:40 am
So, are we getting a female doctor? Bill's line about liking women, and someone around her old age, seemed like a hint to me. FinchChunk, July 16, 2017, 02:41:58 am
We'll find out very soon, after the Wimbledon men's final. But they've been keeping the casting remarkably secret, so we can't really say for sure who it might be or even whether or not they're a man.
Kris Marshall is the leading betting favorite, which all but confirms it won't be Kris Marshall, at least.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Ambious on July 16, 2017, 10:38:57 am
if you open up that tweet you can see a lot of dudes mad that the quirky alien in a cheesy sci-fi TV show is going to be played by a woman RADICAL SANDWICH ANARCHY, July 16, 2017, 01:12:43 pm
Let's don't and say we did.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Cleretic on July 16, 2017, 04:50:47 pm
I woke up to a world objectively cooler than the one I went to sleep in!
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: montrith on July 16, 2017, 06:42:25 pm
I want the salty tears, but I don't want to go looking for them because that would be depressing. Please post here if you find any hilariously stupid salty tears.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Yavuz on July 16, 2017, 08:31:33 pm
I want the salty tears, but I don't want to go looking for them because that would be depressing. Please post here if you find any hilariously stupid salty tears. montrith, July 16, 2017, 06:42:25 pm
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: FinchChunk on July 16, 2017, 09:41:56 pm
Not wank fodder? They saw Paul McGann, right?
I mean I guess we could also not assume a woman exists only to provide sexual pleasure to men but in the mean time working toward gender equity in wank fodder is a baby step.
Edit: Olivia Colman as a fussy yet sinister Master? She's in everything.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Yavuz on July 16, 2017, 10:36:42 pm
Not wank fodder? They saw Paul McGann, right?
I mean I guess we could also not assume a woman exists only to provide sexual pleasure to men but in the mean time working toward gender equity in wank fodder is a baby step.
Edit: Olivia Colman as a fussy yet sinister Master? She's in everything. FinchChunk, July 16, 2017, 09:41:56 pm
I was thinking more along the lines of all the Doctor Who fanfic that's out there.
Title: Screw you Lemon, we're posting about Doctor Who
Post by: Amelia Blank on July 20, 2017, 11:44:08 pm
Also, like Peter Capaldi is a dashing man. I'm certain there's wank material about his doctor already so....
I am super pumped to see what a female Doc will be like. <3 <3 I hope we get a three person TARDIS crew <3 <3