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Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Lemon on March 10, 2019, 10:50:06 am
(https://i.imgur.com/XbnfL7X.jpg) (https://thefpl.us/episode/298)
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: KingKalamari on March 10, 2019, 11:29:29 am
Pre-listening tag suggestion: "Nuts to your ASMR!"
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Ambious on March 10, 2019, 11:52:22 am
Tag suggestion: I can't believe it isn't porn, LINDA
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: LINDA on March 10, 2019, 12:00:20 pm
at last, the appropriate venue for my favorite asmr video
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Ambious on March 10, 2019, 12:30:00 pm
There's definitely an ASMR category on clips4sale, isn't there?
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 10, 2019, 01:28:35 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Vyxd22V.png)

ASMR tag suggestions: "do-it-yourself therapy", "edit point", "fetishes", "hopelessly broken", "how in the hell did you get that fetish?", "insanity", "morons", "nerds", "no homo", "oh you must be a killer", "science", "the internet isn't helping", "the perpetually lonely", "upgrade your ears", "useless tiny detail fetish"
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Mr. Hunky Academia on March 10, 2019, 03:00:03 pm
There should be an F+ doomsday clock but instead of counting down to nuclear annihilation it counts down to when someone mentions Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Vinny Possum on March 10, 2019, 03:08:24 pm
Weirdly high amount of Hitchhiker's Guide references in this one
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Ambious on March 10, 2019, 03:14:11 pm
Weirdly high amount of Hitchhiker's Guide references in this one
Vinny Possum, March 10, 2019, 03:08:24 pm

In an episode involving Reddit? You don't say.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on March 10, 2019, 03:15:07 pm
The way Lemon keeps saying "frisson" is giving me the wrong kind of twitch at the back of my neck.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Vinny Possum on March 10, 2019, 03:19:31 pm
Weirdly high amount of Hitchhiker's Guide references in this one
Vinny Possum, March 10, 2019, 03:08:24 pm

In an episode involving Reddit? You don't say.
Ambious, March 10, 2019, 03:14:11 pm

I mean, there were none I remember in the other reddit eps
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: A Meat on March 10, 2019, 03:31:58 pm
almost an hour and a half about ASMR and you didn't even mention all the really creepy anime roleplay videos? shame on you frank

also, from what I remember there was an fMRI study about ASMR that strongly suggested it's basically the same as frisson or any of those other tactile responses to grooming in a social situation
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: GirlKisser420 on March 10, 2019, 03:42:37 pm
There's definitely an ASMR category on clips4sale, isn't there?
Ambious, March 10, 2019, 12:30:00 pm

yeah  but its not very funny, it doesn't add much to the mix when you combine it with another fetish, which is most of the fun of clipsforsale

also clipsforsale updated its design so the preview vid is front and centre, plays automatically and is way larger so it's wilder to browse
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: KingKalamari on March 10, 2019, 06:46:21 pm
So, has the ASMR community discovered the works of Steve Roden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Roden) and lowercase music (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowercase_(music)) yet? Because I feel like the moment an ASMR lover finds out about this would be akin to the religious concept of personal gnosis...

Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Spontificus on March 10, 2019, 10:16:26 pm
This is the first I have heard about Experience Project closing down, and I can't help but feel a little sad. It's like hearing Taco Bell has closed down. Sure, it was trash and its closure is undoubtedly a net positive, but the trash was what you loved about it in the first place.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Pavlova on March 11, 2019, 12:24:54 am
it's weird to be part of a community that you guys do an episode about. I don't think that's happened before!

personally, asmr has done wonders for my anxiety, but that could absolutely just be a placebo. it's like a non-medicinal way to chill out. good times.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 11, 2019, 02:23:29 am
it's weird to be part of a community that you guys do an episode about. I don't think that's happened before!

personally, asmr has done wonders for my anxiety, but that could absolutely just be a placebo. it's like a non-medicinal way to chill out. good times.
Pavlova, March 11, 2019, 12:24:54 am

Could you maybe explain to us just what the hell ASMR is supposed to be? Because I still can't figure that out.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Frank West on March 11, 2019, 02:29:57 am
it's weird to be part of a community that you guys do an episode about. I don't think that's happened before!

personally, asmr has done wonders for my anxiety, but that could absolutely just be a placebo. it's like a non-medicinal way to chill out. good times.
Pavlova, March 11, 2019, 12:24:54 am

Could you maybe explain to us just what the hell ASMR is supposed to be? Because I still can't figure that out.
ASMR Succulent Chinese Meal + Sherman Tank, March 11, 2019, 02:23:29 am

To actually explain it, instead of being confusing like I did in the episode, it's basically sounds you can listen to that evoke similar feelings to getting a massage. It's not really the same feeling but it's along the same lines.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: A Meat on March 11, 2019, 03:51:14 am
I just use it as white noise to help me stem the tide of anxiety, as a background thing, without actually looking at the videos.

but I also use stuff like art restoration or that japanese dude who makes knives out of anything for the same purpose so I guess that's kinda like what these people get from those videos of a sexy lady crinkling paper?

also there's a few ASMR guys who just do the most dad shit you've ever seen
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: LINDA on March 11, 2019, 07:54:47 am
I just use it as white noise to help me stem the tide of anxiety, as a background thing, without actually looking at the videos.
A Meat, March 11, 2019, 03:51:14 am

Me too. There's also a lot of really cool tool/object restoration videos out there (as well as art restoration, as you said) that are satisfying in the way that cleaning things is satisfying .

Of course as with anything harmless it didn't take long to find the deep end
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Lemon on March 11, 2019, 08:48:42 am
This is the first I have heard about Experience Project closing down, and I can't help but feel a little sad. It's like hearing Taco Bell has closed down. Sure, it was trash and its closure is undoubtedly a net positive, but the trash was what you loved about it in the first place.
Spontificus, March 10, 2019, 10:16:26 pm

Yeah, but just like Taco Bell, there's a whole bunch of other places close by that are basically offering the same crap.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on March 11, 2019, 11:18:05 am
So I've watched a lot of ASMR videos in an attempt to cope with my occasional insomnia. I've gone pretty deep down the rabbit hole though. So I guess ask me anything about ASMR?
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 11, 2019, 11:37:55 am
To actually explain it, instead of being confusing like I did in the episode, it's basically sounds you can listen to that evoke similar feelings to getting a massage. It's not really the same feeling but it's along the same lines.
Frank West, March 11, 2019, 02:29:57 am

Wait, is this all just the internet getting weird and elitist over the sensations I get when I listen to "Grand Canyon Suite"?
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on March 11, 2019, 12:40:04 pm
Wait, is this all just the internet getting weird and elitist over the sensations I get when I listen to "Grand Canyon Suite"?ASMR Succulent Chinese Meal + Sherman Tank, March 11, 2019, 11:37:55 am
That's frisson.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Frank West on March 11, 2019, 12:45:07 pm
Wait, is this all just the internet getting weird and elitist over the sensations I get when I listen to "Grand Canyon Suite"?ASMR Succulent Chinese Meal + Sherman Tank, March 11, 2019, 11:37:55 am
That's frisson.
Sham bam bamina!, March 11, 2019, 12:40:04 pm

Yah, frisson is extremely similar to asmr, but it is a different feeling. Asmr is like the calm, relaxed version of frisson. Also if you posted that in an asmr place everyone would get really mad at you because there's nothing asmr people hate more than being confused for frisson, you MORON, YOU IDIOT, HOW COULD YOU
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: A Meat on March 11, 2019, 02:03:17 pm
because nobody asked for this, here's the relevant paragraph from the only fMRI paper about ASMR I could find, where they claim that also physiologically frisson and ASMR are very much similar. note that like most of these studies, it's very very very very very weak evidence due to statistical issues and how they interpreted the data

The tingles of ASMR have some similarities to the chills of frisson, which are typically induced by music. Music chills have been strongly associated with activation of the NAcc, dACC, SMA, and insula.20,23 We demonstrated that these same regions were also strongly activated during ASMR tingles. Many prior studies of the NAcc have elucidated this area to be a key brain region for reward, satisfaction, and emotion – often involving dopamine.24 Dopamine has been shown to be released in the NAcc during music chills and may therefore also be released in the NAcc during ASMR tingles.11 The similar pattern of activation of both ASMR and frisson could explain their subjective similarities, such as their short duration and tingling sensation within a related neuromechanistic model. Nevertheless, individuals who have experienced both, report that ASMR and frisson are qualitatively distinct and the types of stimuli that trigger each respective sensation are completely different.7 The perceived differences between ASMR and frisson could involve the mPFC, this brain region demonstrated increased activation during tingling in our study but was reported to have decreased activation during frisson.10 Further studies can help to identify the shared similarities and unique differences between these 2 pleasant sensations.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Darkly on March 11, 2019, 02:08:36 pm
I had seen ASMR stuff online and figured it was just videos of attractive women whispering to you. Seemed like something for weird, lonely redditors, but I felt like I understood it pretty well. Now that I actually listened to people talk about it, I think I actually have no idea what it is.

So it’s not a video/sound, it’s a feeling?
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: SHAMBA~1.SBB on March 11, 2019, 02:16:36 pm
I had seen ASMR stuff online and figured it was just videos of attractive women whispering to you. Seemed like something for weird, lonely redditors, but I felt like I understood it pretty well. Now that I actually listened to people talk about it, I think I actually have no idea what it is.

So it’s not a video/sound, it’s a feeling?Darkly, March 11, 2019, 02:08:36 pm
Yeah.  Frank's description as "the opposite of nails on a chalkboard" is more or less what the idea is.  Nails on a chalkboard isn't bad because it's just an unpleasant sound; it's bad because that sound gives you a deeply uncomfortable, hair-raising sensation when you hear it.  ASMR is supposed to be a pleasant version of that.

I say "supposed to be" because I have tried listening to ASMR audio and have never felt anything remotely like this, or anything at all.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: LINDA on March 11, 2019, 02:36:04 pm
putting Brilliant Pebbles on your headphones increases the likelihood of experiencing ASMR by .5%!
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Darkly on March 11, 2019, 02:56:10 pm
I say "supposed to be" because I have tried listening to ASMR audio and have never felt anything remotely like this, or anything at all.
Sham bam bamina!, March 11, 2019, 02:16:36 pm

I was going to ask if ASMR is the same thing as lying in the dark and listening to Tangerine Dream, but apparently that’s a completely different feeling?

I get a major “emperor’s new clothes” vibe from it. Like everyone claims to feel something but they can’t seem to articulately describe it and also it makes no sense to me. Not that I disbelieve any of you guys who are into ASMR, but that reddit talk really made it sound like it was just people being weird about hearing a pleasant sound.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Adam Bozarth on March 11, 2019, 03:27:23 pm
Petition to officially renamed this episode “Sucks to Your ASMR”
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Lemon on March 11, 2019, 04:01:33 pm
Petition to officially renamed this episode “Sucks to Your ASMR”
Adam Bozarth, March 11, 2019, 03:27:23 pm

Pretty sure there's a reference here I'm not getting.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: The AgentCoop's Restaurant Massacre on March 11, 2019, 04:13:37 pm
Real Lord Of The Flies hours who up
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Shell Game on March 11, 2019, 04:54:58 pm
Fuck, the reddit debate at the end is brat for beat the edging vs nofap debate that also took place on surprise! reddit.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 11, 2019, 05:36:40 pm
I hope the episode name isn't changed because then Lemon will have to change the Tingle cover art, and I don't want that.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: sambair on March 11, 2019, 11:02:32 pm
I should look into putting on ASMR videos when I go to sleep, instead of my current go-to, those season-long collections of Angry Video Game Nerd.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Pavlova on March 11, 2019, 11:53:21 pm
I've always felt ASMR as like a kind of tickling on my scalp and neck - like one of those weird scalp massaging things? It's just noises and images (I've found light stimuli - like fake eye tests and whatnot to make me drowsy) that relax ya. It's just a super quick way to doze off in my case.

While yeah, there are defs weird Redditors that listen to it to get off, I've always just used it as white noise. I can't use it to study or work or anything though because I just get too sleepy.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on March 12, 2019, 08:54:48 am
I was going to ask if ASMR is the same thing as lying in the dark and listening to Tangerine Dream, but apparently that’s a completely different feeling?

I get a major “emperor’s new clothes” vibe from it. Like everyone claims to feel something but they can’t seem to articulately describe it and also it makes no sense to me. Not that I disbelieve any of you guys who are into ASMR, but that reddit talk really made it sound like it was just people being weird about hearing a pleasant sound.
Darkly, March 11, 2019, 02:56:10 pm
It's one of those physiological things like enjoying pesto or being ticklish. Some studies have said that there is a specific reaction that some people have to these stimuli and some just don't. That's why it's so hard to explain to people that have never experienced it. It's like trying to explain why I hate your hellish soap noodles LINDA!

I was premature to stick my toe in the pool, apparently I wasn't the only ASMR obsessive here!

Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Adam Bozarth on March 12, 2019, 01:05:08 pm
Petition to officially renamed this episode “Sucks to Your ASMR”
Adam Bozarth, March 11, 2019, 03:27:23 pm

Pretty sure there's a reference here I'm not getting.
Lemon, March 11, 2019, 04:01:33 pm

In “Lord of the Flies,” which they make you read in high school to help inspire the imaginations of the crueler children, there is a character named Piggy. He’s the worst and he can’t do anything right. When the marooned boys all go swimming, Piggy says he can’t because he has “Ass-mar,” the British pronounciation of Asthma. And the other boys respond “Sucks to your ass-mar!” It’s the only thing I remember from Sophomore English.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: bubbleuj on March 13, 2019, 05:33:27 pm
I remember when the ASMR shit first took off and it wasn’t full of creepy ladies and ladies being creeped on.

The video that triggered it the most was just someone ironing a shirt really well. My ex would make fun of me in bed by just whispering/making clicking noises close to my ear.

It’s like a feeling of being just super satisfied but you feel it physically.  Like when you eat something really good and you feel the yum radiate out of your body.

Its kinda like being tickled but inside your brain.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Spenny on March 13, 2019, 11:37:41 pm
This episode had some amazing jargon. I don't know how I have never heard "AMSRtist" or "reddiquette" before.
 
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: DetectiveSlowpoke on March 14, 2019, 03:01:11 am
This episode had some amazing jargon. I don't know how I have never heard "AMSRtist" or "reddiquette" before.
Spenny, March 13, 2019, 11:37:41 pm

Neither has reddit
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Mix on March 14, 2019, 07:15:31 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1osR_TWkAAUSUq.jpg)
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Dawnswalker on March 18, 2019, 01:17:50 am
"Don't wake Mother"

The Superman III thing totally caught me off guard too.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on March 25, 2019, 03:34:27 pm
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: LINDA on March 27, 2019, 12:04:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rUfT3VAAEsmgQ.jpg)
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Really_Quite_Nice on March 27, 2019, 01:10:40 pm
https://twitter.com/RandallOtisTV/status/1110947319938248704
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on April 01, 2019, 08:39:19 am
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Bobguinary Novel on April 19, 2019, 01:01:46 am
Was watching a few baking videos that double as ASMR videos and could not make it through. The shlorping noises gave me the heebie jeebies.
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: A Meat on April 19, 2019, 01:11:41 am
Was watching a few baking videos that double as ASMR videos and could not make it through. The shlorping noises gave me the heebie jeebies.
🧛‍♀️📘, April 19, 2019, 01:01:46 am
Then try one that's someone eating, it's even more unpleasant
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Bobguinary Novel on April 19, 2019, 02:44:18 am
Was watching a few baking videos that double as ASMR videos and could not make it through. The shlorping noises gave me the heebie jeebies.
🧛‍♀️📘, April 19, 2019, 01:01:46 am
Then try one that's someone eating, it's even more unpleasant
A Meat, April 19, 2019, 01:11:41 am

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Ambious on May 03, 2019, 12:40:13 pm
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Dr. Buttplug on May 09, 2019, 06:08:04 pm
Did Frank West have something to do with this?
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Mix on July 11, 2019, 07:06:17 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_H_iJUWkAA89LV.png)
Title: 298: Giving You Tingles
Post by: Sherman Tank on July 12, 2019, 11:01:14 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_H_iJUWkAA89LV.png)
Mix, July 11, 2019, 07:06:17 pm

She's not Australian. Ripoff!