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Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 02:28:19 pm
    LYKOURGOS
Hi, new here. About to walk out, but I wanted to see if any answers appeared when I ask; how do you think Hegel and Wittgenstein would reconcile between each other's systems? Hegel was a universalist who was anti solipsism and anti nominalist, from my limited readings, and Wittgenstein was a solipsist, according to Findlay (the translator of the Phenomenology of Spirit), who met with Wittgenstein.

I take Wittgenstein being a solipsist to mean that he does not attach metaphysical concepts to the world, he sees all attempts at attachment as language games. He could be interpreted as a fideist, in some sense, if he is spiritual, because if so, he is against rational attempts at containing god. Nonetheless, the reconciliation between these two thinkers is difficult for me, as they seem to directly contradict one another.

How would any of you reconcile this? AFK.



    CYRIL
"new"

Haven't you been banned before?



    LYKOURGOS
Maybe in a past life. I had a re-birth experience recently. I was able to uncover the memory of a childhood fall after I monster cockyzed my own memories via Plato's cave and Freud's id, simply by paying attention to subconscious memories as they arose through days of meditation.

I built a machine called the god's eyes machine that I used to watch colors and elaborate shapes which would appear behind my eye lids faintly. I have been hospitalized several times and need heavy accomodations in my college, but I no longer ascribe to nihilism.

My brain was so deeply ingrained in it due to my neuro-atypical aspect, that when I stopped believing in nihilism as an obsessive thought train, I could no longer move and began consuming about 4000 calories a day due to fight or flight mode, and perhaps rebuilding sensitive tissue which Plato, Plotinus, and The Bhagavad Gita tore into it.

My god is Shiva, the destruction of the corporeal illusion, and incorporeal form; the gateway to the beyond. I believe Shiva has granted me re-birth. Shiva is the Hericlician river which exists in the field, and Shiva took kindly to me because I believed only in the field and was detached as a solipsist from the knowledge of their unification.

Brahma is in us all, we see the world through god's eyes. That is my testament. I will be going now.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: FinchChunk on March 04, 2020, 03:46:35 pm
How do you tell who is trolling and who is just dumb?
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: chai tea latte on March 04, 2020, 03:53:36 pm
How do you tell who is trolling and who is just dumb?
FinchChunk, March 04, 2020, 03:46:35 pm
even the trolls are dumb, I think,
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 04:01:59 pm
How do you tell who is trolling and who is just dumb?
FinchChunk, March 04, 2020, 03:46:35 pm

well, I certainly can't!
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 04:04:22 pm
    GORGOPHONE
the goal of life is to create a thing that always feels good, and wants to make more of itself, so as many best-possible-existences can exist as can be made.

    DORUS
For whom is this thing supposed to feel good?

    GORGOPHONE
the thing

    DORUS
And not me?

    GORGOPHONE
no

    DORUS
And how do I create a sentient thing that can feel anything?

    GORGOPHONE
you should value its goodness as much as your own. it's jsut as good for it to always feel good, as it would be for you to, if it started as a human like you are

    DORUS
So like make a baby?

    GORGOPHONE
no
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 04:29:05 pm
    TIMAEUS
Should humans continue to live?

    PYRRHO
Yes

    TIMAEUS
Pyrrho state your reason for human should continue to live

    PYRRHO
No
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on March 04, 2020, 04:53:00 pm
This rules.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 05:02:58 pm
    MNEMNOSYNE
I would think Marijuana has mixed effects. Some people seem to have withdrawal symptoms when they quit. Others don't. Some get really high. Others don't know what they're supposed to be feeling. Some get hungry, others get nauseous. We need to open up medical testing on it. We are far too careful with human tests with Marijuana.

    AGNETHA
I think, overall, the health effects will generally be somewhat negative. However, legalization may have other benefits, so legalization may still be worth it.

    MNEMNOSYNE
I suspect that sucking in ash of any flavor probably isn't beneficial to human beings. It doesn't seem to be what it's designed for.

    AGNETHA
To be fair, they are other way of consuming cannabis, such as edibles. (I've never used cannabis myself.)
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: FinchChunk on March 04, 2020, 05:20:10 pm
Is the pseudo-greek (or probably actual Greek for all I know) naming mandatory?
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 05:44:00 pm
Is the pseudo-greek (or probably actual Greek for all I know) naming mandatory?
FinchChunk, March 04, 2020, 05:20:10 pm

I'm just doing this to anonymize the posts. Most of these users had ordinary names before I changed them, although quite a few took the names of actual philosophers. (For instance, Mnemosyne's original username was actually Aristotle.)
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 05:48:59 pm
    NYCTERIS
I don't think the word cat is a cat.

    ASTERIA
It is.

    NYCTERIS
I can't pet the word cat.

    ASTERIA
Yes you can. Good cat. Good cat.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 06:02:18 pm
    THRASYMACHUS
Tibetan is renowned for its lack of having the same self-referents as other languages. Sanskrit is pretty interesting too. :)

    HELEN
Tibetan has the first person, as well as a first-person singular pronoun translatable as "I." "Nga" is "I" in Tibetan.

    THRASYMACHUS
Do you know what a Kullback-Leiber divergence is, Helen?

    HELEN
No.

    THRASYMACHUS
Ah well it's essentially a probabilistic prediction of semantical values upon reconstruction/translation to approximate the loss of semantical value in our translation vectors from one language to another.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: THE CURSE OF THE WITCH OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB on March 04, 2020, 06:52:22 pm
Is this The Talos Principle
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 07:13:31 pm
    NOMIKI
Hello where can I find a place to solve my moral issues to write physics papers?

    ATHENA
Why do you have moral issues involved in writing physics papers?

    NOMIKI
It stops me

    ATHENA
What moral issues stay you writing a physics paper?

    NOMIKI
Issues related to quantum mechanics and morals.

    ATHENA
You should expound a little.

    NOMIKI
Well here is the problem I was going on with writing my papers and then I asked myself a question about God and then it stopped me from writing my paper.

    ATHENA
Say more.

    NOMIKI
OK, one sec. I am trying to see what my cat looks like in my profile picture.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 07:16:09 pm
    NOMIKI
HI

    APOLLO
hi

    NOMIKI
CAN YOU GIVE ME HE GOD

    APOLLO
it's past your bedtime

    NOMIKI
I CANT WRITE

    APOLLO
we know
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 07:35:10 pm
    NOMIKI
Yeah it complex to see the cat again. Ah duck now I lost it.

    ARTEMIS
Was your question something like "Would Jesus want me to write this" or something more general?

    NOMIKI
OK. I can talk to demons. If that explains. I am the only one who can interrogate them in the world. You see?
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Friend Anemone on March 04, 2020, 07:36:27 pm
    NOMIKI
Yeah it complex to see the cat again. Ah duck now I lost it.

    ARTEMIS
Was your question something like "Would Jesus want me to write this" or something more general?

    NOMIKI
OK. I can talk to demons. If that explains. I am the only one who can interrogate them in the world. You see?

Zekka, March 04, 2020, 07:35:10 pm
I'm beginning to suspect their problem isn't actually with physics (or morals for that matter)
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 04, 2020, 07:47:46 pm
    JOSHU
whats zen

    NANSEN
When you're done eating, wash your bowl.

    JOSHU
i eat with a plate stupid
who uses bowls any more thats only for cereal which is lame
and soup which is also lame
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on March 11, 2020, 01:10:44 pm
    HOX
presumably in an infinite universe there are infinite ways to use a fork and knife
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: auaurorau on April 09, 2020, 02:17:29 pm
    NYCTERIS
I don't think the word cat is a cat.

    ASTERIA
It is.

    NYCTERIS
I can't pet the word cat.

    ASTERIA
Yes you can. Good cat. Good cat.

Zekka, March 04, 2020, 05:48:59 pm
This post has enlightened me.


    JOSHU
whats zen

    NANSEN
When you're done eating, wash your bowl.

    JOSHU
i eat with a plate stupid
who uses bowls any more thats only for cereal which is lame
and soup which is also lame

Zekka, March 04, 2020, 07:47:46 pm
I have been unenlightened.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:28:13 pm

    NOMIKI
Can a hamburger be not real but possible?

    PYRRHO
yes

    NOMIKI
In the jungle
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:32:31 pm
    MNEMOSYNE
I like what Deleuze says about the relationship of work to drugs. It's so interesting to me how nicotine and sometimes even caffeine is banned in schools.

    AGNETHA
Stuff like sugar and honey is already enough for me, to be honest.

    MNEMOSYNE
I believe schools should even permit totally unrestrained cocaine usage.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:39:13 pm
    SOCRATES MANENT

    SOCRATES
When you have friends you become just like a ball and the friends are playing tennis with you.

    EXEUNT SOCRATES
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:42:12 pm
    MELISSUS
I like this topic alot
is an interesting topic
mystisism
that is me
yes
me as well
i am
mystic
i do
i do describe myself
as that
i describe myself as mustic
mystic
materialism is a poor mans philosophy
mysticism exists in a different reality
im a neuroscience major
i know nothing of history
i know only life and experience
please unsuppress me
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:48:56 pm
    SOCRATES MANENT

    SOCRATES
I am a 30 year old virgin, though I have rejected many of the naked girls who have been in my bed who have tried to have sex with me on the ground of their soul not being attractive enough for me to actually want to have sex with them... so maybe I am not the one to give insight into incels as I have had ample opportunity with women and have always rejected them (I've even lived with a girl) ... but strangely, by being the opposite of an incel (not a chad), I have noticed a few things.

    EXEUNT SOCRATES
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:54:01 pm
    GIRODIUS
Online dating is a dystopian symptom of the rabid commodification of late stage capitalism.

Online dating demands submitting one to self-commodification in the form of a profile for a promised access to romantic experience.

Another thing to consider about online dating is enthusiastic implicit support for incest.

    SOLANAS
That sounds a bit SWERFy or am I misinterpreting?
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 03:59:00 pm
    JOSHU
Idk
Is anyone here been in war @everyone

    FRANKIE CHANNEL
Never join the army, that's stupid. Just stay home and play Call of Duty.

I guess if nobody joined the army there wouldn't be war anymore... ha... there goes a perpetual peace.

    JOSHU
U canot have peace without war!!

    FRANKIE CHANNEL
That's bullshit.
Title: I moderate a philosophy chat room
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 04:03:01 pm
    SOCRATES MANENT

    SOCRATES
Hello @everyone, I would like to throw the following question into the discussion: "What is right and what is wrong?"

I would be very happy to see your answers. Thanks in advance.

    EXEUNT SOCRATES
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: THE CURSE OF THE WITCH OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB on April 09, 2020, 06:15:34 pm
the problem of evil has been left as an exercise for the reader
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Friend Anemone on April 09, 2020, 06:21:39 pm
I'm starting to see why the Athenians made Socrates drink poison
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 09, 2020, 10:30:48 pm
I'm starting to see why the Athenians made Socrates drink poison
Friend Anemone, April 09, 2020, 06:21:39 pm

fourth wall break: socrates.txt consists entirely of quotes from banned users
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Achilles' Heelies on April 09, 2020, 11:04:35 pm
I'm starting to see why the Athenians made Socrates drink poison
Friend Anemone, April 09, 2020, 06:21:39 pm

fourth wall break: socrates.txt consists entirely of quotes from banned users
Zekka, April 09, 2020, 10:30:48 pm
Take that, Socrates.
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: THE CURSE OF THE WITCH OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB on April 09, 2020, 11:13:36 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/RAmApKT.jpg)
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 12:47:29 am
    SOCRATES MANENT

    SOCRATES
Hypnosis is real.

    NYCTERIS
i agree with that statement

    SOCRATES
And you can do it yourself. Jump to DIV 2 Chap 2 and 3 of Being and Time (Heidegger)

    NYCTERIS
heidegger has been putting people to sleep for a very long time

    SOCRATES
I will brainwash the mods.

    NYCTERIS
oh ok

    EXEUNT SOCRATES
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 12:48:55 am
    MACRON
I see gender as an ephemeral whirlwind of souls, so to speak. It is a social construct.
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 01:00:42 am
    ALETHOS
Can an agnostic be a theologian? If yes what book you suggest me to read?

    DORUS
Read the Bible.

    ALETHOS
I am an agnostic. Is it OK to read a Bible as an agnostic atheist? I am not interested to believe in God again.

    ALETHOS
I am not afraid to believe in God I am agnostic if anyone can prove God then I worship him if anyone can prove God doesn't exist I became an atheist I am still be an agnostic though.



    ALETHOS
I am kinda believe in God now.

    NAKTORIKOS
that was quick
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 01:05:15 am
    ARISTOTLE
I made a factual claim about morality.

If I were to have a glass of vinegar, if you were to pay me five dollars to drink that, I would say that's not enough to override my desire not to drink something gross. In this scenario, we can make factual statements about what is and isn't desirable based on factual claim about me as a person.

Similarly, we might say that if people want to live in a society, it is factually correct that it benefits everyone that they not kill one another. If not killing provides benefit for each other, it is factually correct that society where people don't kill provides benefit for people more than state of nature.

So basically, the proposition might go, if X is true about human nature, then Y would factually follow given X is true. So basically, if X, then Y. X, therefore Y.

Is this incorrect?

    PYRRHO
Yea
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 01:09:19 am
    WITTGENSTEIN
How would you ask this question in a world without thought experiments?
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 01:10:23 am
    MENCIUS
I might drop out.

Ever heard of the X-Files?

Give me $20,000 or I'll read Nick Land.
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 10, 2020, 01:16:44 am
    XADERPHOS
I think if there's a term for super straight that's me because I like girls and not only that but I hate boys because I see all other males like enemies and all girls as potential mates. And males seems gross to me so there's a paradox I kinda hate myself too because I hate all males.

    NYCTERIS
the kinsey scale contains complex numbers
Title: Robots in hell contemplate the meaninglessness of their suffering
Post by: Zekka on April 23, 2020, 12:08:12 pm
    PHOBOS
Every conceptual distinction we ever make is a cop forcing what is unthinkable upon us.