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Haven't finished the episode yet, but fuck, the Seal of Solomon seals demons and makes them serve god again, that's the whole point of it, why would that be satanic? The story is that Solomon was given the signet ring by an angel to make demons build the temple for him.

Unrelated, I'm not hearing any reasons why I should support God in this one, Satan seems to have this one in the bag and neither side gives me free will (what with having to pray or demonic mind control), and at least Satan is less preachy about it

Edit: Vav/Waw is the 6th letter in Hebrew, but since the number of the beast isn't 6,6,6, but 666, it'd actually be TRSW (Taw, Resh, Samekh, Waw, because numerical values go up to 400 so there isn't a 600)
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The household I grew up in was Baptist - specifically, a denomination known as Free Will Baptists, because part of their specific creed was that we have to choose to be saved (and baptized), and we have to continue to exercise our free will to remain saved (apostasy or "backsliding" is a big part of the doctrine). Lemon's comments in the episode made something click for me: why would they need to specify that unless other Baptists don't believe the same thing?

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The household I grew up in was Baptist - specifically, a denomination known as Free Will Baptists, because part of their specific creed was that we have to choose to be saved (and baptized), and we have to continue to exercise our free will to remain saved (apostasy or "backsliding" is a big part of the doctrine). Lemon's comments in the episode made something click for me: why would they need to specify that unless other Baptists don't believe the same thing?
Neal, March 25, 2020, 01:11:42 pm
yeah, my Baptist upbringing was weird in that one had to knowingly choose baptism, but you were more or less saved anyway. The church was largely composed of wealthy white folk.

You still judged the shit out of anyone who had fun. Also poverty was a moral failing.

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The household I grew up in was Baptist - specifically, a denomination known as Free Will Baptists, because part of their specific creed was that we have to choose to be saved (and baptized), and we have to continue to exercise our free will to remain saved (apostasy or "backsliding" is a big part of the doctrine). Lemon's comments in the episode made something click for me: why would they need to specify that unless other Baptists don't believe the same thing?
Neal, March 25, 2020, 01:11:42 pm
yeah, my Baptist upbringing was weird in that one had to knowingly choose baptism, but you were more or less saved anyway. The church was largely composed of wealthy white folk.

You still judged the shit out of anyone who had fun. Also poverty was a moral failing.
Shell Game, March 25, 2020, 02:09:02 pm

Yeah, my dad is a Presbyterian; his brother is born-again, his sister was schizophrenic, and he mocked transubstantiation behind my Catholic mom's back. Cessationism may really be the only hard stop in Christianity from descending the path to madness. Not against being a piece of shit, but at least not crossing the "indistinguishable from mental illness" line.

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No offense but speaking in tongues is kind of cringe
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No offense but speaking in tongues is kind of cringe
chai tea latte, March 25, 2020, 02:31:47 pm

bro u just posted arianism u are going to lose communion
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Unrelated, I'm not hearing any reasons why I should support God in this one, Satan seems to have this one in the bag and neither side gives me free will (what with having to pray or demonic mind control), and at least Satan is less preachy about it
A Meat, March 25, 2020, 04:34:06 am

Yeah, this isn't something where I feel 100% comfortable arguing with these viewpoints theologically (since they're very obviously more about mental illness and fear than any kind of actual theology, and arguing against that seems unkind), but these kinds of arguments always make it seem like God is either substantially less powerful than Satan or just completely uncaring. Either God's hands are tied while Satan can act with impunity -- and has done so to a degree that he basically owns the world -- or God is apparently cool with it unless someone specifically petitions the angels/sperm whales for help. Neither of these create an image of an all-powerful benevolent deity, you know?

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If Lemon ever goes off the deep end into evangelical apocalyptic conspiracy theory territory, let it be known that the domain http://theendti.me/ has already been taken. (Future episode fodder. [wink])
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endtim.es and theendtim.es are both parked by GoDaddy, regrettably
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