Whenever I see a group of men standing in a circle with coffee and just like. Talking in casual dress first thing in the morning, I can't stop wondering if they're some kind of Christian Men's group. And I get nervous because I used to be around those a lot when I went to church. They were NEVER fun people to be around. Being "A Godly Man" or some iteration therein was always being discussed and so many activities were defined by how they're both manly and godly. Like rock climbing. Man, do those groups like rock climbing!