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Topic: thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign  (Read 1930 times)

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #15
The new layout makes it a lot harder to read the tags page because they aren't all in little bubbles like the old layout. To be perfectly honest this is probably the least pressing problem in the history of the world but you did ask for feedback.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #16
I genuinely thought the website formatting was broken and it wasn't until I read this thread that I realized it looked like that on purpose. Probably not the impression you were going for.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #17
So it looks like some entries show the body text and others don't. It throws off the balance a little on mobile. Screenshots below. I'm on my phone so I can't get a shot of this one but last night on my desktop I noticed title length seems to also affect how things are positioned.



The result's a little messy when it feels like you were going for a cleaner, more modern feel.

On a personal note I can't really say how I feel. My gut says not to like it,  but my gut is a nostalgic fool that forgets really fast so don't listen to it (and no lie I think most negative reactions are probably that too. change, man...)

I appreciate all the work you put into it. Hope my nattering observations helped. Unless those were intentional. In that case I guess I didn't have much important to say.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #18
Another thing stuck out to me about the clickable boxes on the index page. (This might get nitpicky, but hey you asked for feedback.)

When you hover over the boxes, the names of the ridiculists and the URLs of the websites will change color as if they’re links, but clicking on them will take you to the episode page, not the ridiculist’s profile or the website URL. Maybe it would be better to have those just not change color?

Also, the website URLs are (usually?) not clickable links in the episode pages anyway, so making them appear that way in summary seems inconsistent.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #19
Okay, some responses.

Is the logo meant to be cut off on the bottom? Because I really, really don't like that.

Well, clearly you're not alone, because there's a whole lot of that going around.

I'm also not a fan of the font used for the tags. It's kinda cramped.

I think I'm in agreement there.  With a bold serif, the point size of 12pixels is a little uncomfortable. That'll get changed.

[...] if the logo was in the top left instead of the large empty gray space it'd be fine by me

Alright, here's something I mocked up.



If you think that's better, then I just fundamentally disagree with you. Firstly because it's common and less interesting, but also because that logo, probably the least interesting thing on any given page, is then the focal point on every given page. No matter what you're looking at, a bright red circle in the top left is trying to steal your attention.

there's a lot of wasted space in portrait mode (like in tablets):

Yeah, this I definitely agree with. I kept the same breakpoints from the previous design where it made a little more sense, and I need to adjust that. My thought is that the mobile version of the sidebar will happen a lot sooner, absorbing resolutions up to like 800 pixels or so.

Are the icons at the button left meant to cycle randomly?

That was kind of a last minute change and sort of half-baked I'll confess. But you saying that made me realize I can change around that idea to something a little more useful. Here's what's happens now.
* The first icon is a subscription method (currently iTunes, Pocket Casts, or RSS)
* The second and third icons are two random "social" options (YouTube, Twitter, GitHub, etc)
* The last icon is ballp.it

Does that make more sense?

The date box significantly overlaps the title for a number of the episodes
more on this later

With sixteen fifteen items with one of them double-width per page on a 1080px wide monitor, one item winds up all on its own on the bottom.

Sure, that's how a grid works. It responds to your resolution, whatever it may be, and tries to do the best math depending. When you're designing responsively you can't fixate on orphans.

More logo things

Again, majority opinion here so I'm not gonna discount it completely, but I'm in disagreement here. The logo is everywhere on the site, I think tucking it in the corner makes it more interesting and less stock blog. I also don't think "home' needs more prominence because once you've come to the site, "home" isn't really the best way to navigate anyway, every other method is going to help you drill into what you're actually looking for.

As it happens, here was my first iteration, which I also still like.

The logo gets partially covered by URLs when you mouse-over links, including the link around the logo itself.

Here's the only piece of this I do agree with. I don't mind it being covered up when you hover over other stuff, I do mind the url inspector covering the link itself up.

Recognize that I'm not locking anything in forever. That's not how I make websites (obviously). What I'm saying is that I'm feeling good about that placement and while I'm considering what I'm reading about it, I'm not currently being convinced by any of it.

Also, not having the episode titles (or numbers) display in text form on the episode list seems problematic to me.

Assuming you mean the breifs pages because the episode list is pure-image, I hear you. More on this in a bit.

i discovered the tag explorer (and a nice number of fetish tags), but there's no obvious (to me) way to get to it from the homepage.

Yeah, that's alright, I wouldn't call that "primary discovery". Getting dumped into the tag page right away would be jarring, it's main use is to pivot from one episode to another of similar content, exploring all available tags is definitely something you should discover on your own.

i like a sitemap link for trying to find things like this

FWIW, thefpl.us actually does have a sitemap, but its primary purpose is to be consumed by search engines.

I just want to see the dang logo

You're in luck. The F+ logo currently exists 14 times on the home page. 25 times on the epsiodes page.

The new layout makes it a lot harder to read the tags page because they aren't all in little bubbles like the old layout.

Yeah, agreed, I think the design of that page can be improved, though I'm not yet sure how. I'm exploring this

I genuinely thought the website formatting was broken and it wasn't until I read this thread that I realized it looked like that on purpose.

I'm using this as a testimonial in my portfolio.

So it looks like some entries show the body text and others don't.

So what's happening here is that the double-size block is getting squished into a single box at significantly smaller displays, and I think I might agree that the rhythm change is a bit jarring. Gonna explore that.

Okay, so

One of many things I was hoping to get away with in this particular resign was to avoid a duplicate content issue with the title. Since (I think?) every single episode cover displays the title itself. It seemed better to me to not duplicate content right next to itself, let the image serve as the title and move forward from there.

The problem there is that the images themselves are inconsistent. With everything else having rules, every episode is allowed to determine where its own title goes, as well as the ep # if there is one. While I don't super duper love displaying the text "Problematic Sex Toys" underneath the text "Problematic Sex Toys", I think it solves more issues than it causes.

So I have a GitHub fork called rebrief set up to approach some of the stuff discussed here. But for the record, you remember the several times I asked for design opinions on the beta? None of you did that. So, a teeny tiny itsy bitsy ever-so-small fuck you to the lot of you. Y'know?
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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #20
On mobile I keep trying to move the logo around like Facebook messengers little pop ups.

But that's a me problem.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #21
Alright, here's something I mocked up.



If you think that's better, then I just fundamentally disagree with you. Firstly because it's common and less interesting, but also because that logo, probably the least interesting thing on any given page, is then the focal point on every given page. No matter what you're looking at, a bright red circle in the top left is trying to steal your attention.Lemon, January 02, 2019, 11:17:01 am
If this is about attention and focus, having the logo at the bottom is actually more distracting to me.  A logo in a normal place is invisible.  A logo in a strange place where I have never seen one before is constantly itching at the corner of my eye.  Also, having it way up at the top as its own little thing gives it undue focus, but putting it in the same block of the screen as the menu doesn't have that effect:



But for the record, you remember the several times I asked for design opinions on the beta? None of you did that. So, a teeny tiny itsy bitsy ever-so-small fuck you to the lot of you. Y'know?Lemon, January 02, 2019, 11:17:01 am
This doesn't mean I'm interested in your Goddamn Design Opinions. In fact, assume I'm not.Lemon, December 18, 2018, 04:19:12 pm
Genuinely can't tell if you're joking.
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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #22
I for one like the new design. It's interesting and minimal. And I really don't think having the logo at the bottom is going to be something anyone cares about after they've seen it for the hundredth time.
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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #23
Hi I'm basically Ralph Wiggum when it comes to visual art and design so I don't really have an opinion, goodbye!

I would totally cream for a web 1.0 looking version though. You know, as a joke.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #24
Personally, I really do like the new design, but I have a slight usability concern. Maybe it's just me being dense but it took me a while looking at the mobile site to figure out that I needed to click the F Plus logo to get the menu up.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #25
I genuinely thought the website formatting was broken and it wasn't until I read this thread that I realized it looked like that on purpose.

I'm using this as a testimonial in my portfolio.Lemon, January 02, 2019, 11:17:01 am
Go right ahead, though I really wasn't trying to be an asshole. I think the combination of larger serif font, white background and cut off logo hit my brain as broken CSS instead of a redesign. Well, that and it was 5am.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #26
It seems some people are being listed twice on the stats page. I assume this is due to minor variations in their names and I can't imagine it's worth fixing.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #27
But for the record, you remember the several times I asked for design opinions on the beta? None of you did that. So, a teeny tiny itsy bitsy ever-so-small fuck you to the lot of you. Y'know?
Lemon, January 02, 2019, 11:17:01 am

That's the kind of approach that got Microsoft to release the infamously buggy 2018 October Update for Windows 10, so at least you're in good company.

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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #28
Updates made:

  • Desktop sidebar logo moved up! Slightly! (from -45px to -35px)
  • Break to mobile nav happens earlier (< 980 pixels now gets the "mobile navigation" concept)
  • Titles displaying in all briefs. Additionally, I've changed clickable area from the entire brief to the title and image in that brief.
  • Regular episodes (meaning: Episodes with a number) display in bottom right of brief
  • Tags are now bigger on the episode pages
  • The episode tag page has been redesigned
  • Rewrote the grid for the fanart page
  • Some bugfixes caused by the double size brief. The double sized brief now really only occurs if the grid is 2 across or more, otherwise it uses the single size brief for that piece

If you're interested, here's the merge.
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thefpl.us v2.2 Redesign #29
Tablet portrait view is perfect now, thanks!

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