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Topic: Episode 118: My Little Podcast: Fandom Is Tragic  (Read 104660 times)

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Quasi-porn of pregnant anthropomorphic rollercoasters?

what could it beeee
EYE OF ZA, December 21, 2013, 11:58:30 pm

No, no, THEY FOUND IT! The nonconsensual furniture rearrangement erotica! And it's worse than anyone could have ever dreamed...

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Quasi-porn of pregnant anthropomorphic rollercoasters?

what could it beeee
EYE OF ZA, December 21, 2013, 11:58:30 pm
No, no, THEY FOUND IT! The nonconsensual furniture rearrangement erotica! And it's worse than anyone could have ever dreamed...
TheCrawlingChaos, December 22, 2013, 12:07:05 am
God, I fucking hope so.
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All of you are wrong.

Here's an unhelpful clue! I wish to bring back the "focus on a single twit" tag!

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I completely forgot I had this stored in one of my many folders of sundry unsortable internet horrors.
I have not one but TWO THREE sequels from the guy who wrote to that other guy about how Twilight Sparkle is his wife and others shouldn't masturbate to her.

First, his facebook response to the popularity of his letter.
http://i44.tinypic.com/21l91lf.png
In retrospect he regrets NOTHING.

And then this. Where he shows 4chan how much he loves Twilight Sparkle. In a completely NSFW way.
"Based on another reading I have a good idea of what makes that Twilight Sparkle plushy 'custom'."
In a surprise twist I don't think he made a S.P.H. but I can't be sure from the angle of the pictures. However he has created something which is more impressive in many ways.
http://i40.tinypic.com/se2lg3.jpg

Again, this one is NSFW. You can actually see the curvature of his belly, if you catch my drift.


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Wait, one more. This one is completely safe for work.
http://i42.tinypic.com/dvhqud.jpg
This is nothing special. Just him being what I believe is his usual self.
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First, his facebook response to the popularity of his letter.
http://i44.tinypic.com/21l91lf.pngOdd, December 22, 2013, 10:31:22 pm

Hmm, okay, what do we have h
It's really unfortunate that someone decided to send this to Tara Strong, as she has almost no connection to Twilight Sparkle whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. To me she's just a voice actor who can make her voice sound like my partner's and there's really no connection past that. So I think it's a shame that someone decided to drag her into it.
for fuck's sake

EDIT:
Wait, one more. This one is completely safe for work.
http://i42.tinypic.com/dvhqud.jpg
This is nothing special. Just him being what I believe is his usual self.
literally terrifying.

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I realized something during the last segment. Terrible fanbases do more than just shame regular fans, they basically kill their source material.

Tiny Toons - supposedly cancelled at least in part due to creepy fans
Invader Zim - cancelled, and from what I've heard the creator has no love for its fanbase
MLP - I know Lauren Faust isn't involved anymore, and I'm guessing eventually more and more people involved will slowly slip away

You could add Homestuck too. Andrew Hussie deciding to write the rest of the story and wait to release it has effectively killed the fandom, which I suspect is intentional.

I guess it goes to show, some things are more  important than money. Like not having to deal with annoying assholes.

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I used to read Hussie's Ask blog from time to time, and all I can say is I completely understand his desire to give a big "Fuck you" to his fanbase. A more self-entitled, whiny group of nerds is hard to find.

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I realized something during the last segment. Terrible fanbases do more than just shame regular fans, they basically kill their source material.

Tiny Toons - supposedly cancelled at least in part due to creepy fans
Invader Zim - cancelled, and from what I've heard the creator has no love for its fanbase
MLP - I know Lauren Faust isn't involved anymore, and I'm guessing eventually more and more people involved will slowly slip away

You could add Homestuck too. Andrew Hussie deciding to write the rest of the story and wait to release it has effectively killed the fandom, which I suspect is intentional.

I guess it goes to show, some things are more  important than money. Like not having to deal with annoying assholes.
Garbage Dacey, December 27, 2013, 02:53:59 am

I have never read Homestuck, but I've seen bits and pieces of it and my god it is always hilarious when Hussie messes with the fanbase. For a while it seemed like every other day, idiot fans would make some kind of "FUCK NO ANDREW HUSSIE!!!!!" post... sandwiched in between dozens of shipping fanart for the comic, of course.

As for Tiny Toons, I have to wonder how much of that story is true. Now, it's known that Quozl (the furry in question) was indeed unnaturally obsessed with Babs Bunny and wished to express that... "love"... to Tress MacNeille. But when I was in school, I really did personally ask a former TT animator about that story and whether or not it contributed to the cancellation of the show. After a short rant about how "vile and disgusting" furries were* he said that he'd never heard about the stalking, and in his opinion, the show was likely canned simply because cartoons eventually get cancelled at some point. According to him, the show had been on for a while and at that point the higher-ups simply saw a drop in profits and didn't renew it.

As awful as fans can be, I suspect they don't affect things quite as much as it'd seem. Sure, they'll ruin a few things and some creators will block comments or take down forums to get rid of them. But for the most part I think a lot of entertainers just try to put them out of their minds and keep on keepin' on.

Now, I say that and yet I feel that this will change in the coming years. As creators become more accessible, horrible fans are starting to overstep their boundaries more and more (the Supernatural stars are quite aware of their fandom, for example) and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we got a few high profile stalking cases in the future. Some nut or two will truly have no idea that their creepiness is off-putting and wrong, and then Trinket Vaginer will strike. Hussie's behavior towards his fans is a good indicator of things to come, I think.

* Yeah, sorry kids, but a lot of animators don't think "the fuzzies" are just cute and cuddly costume partiers. The rage in that guy's rant was fucking majestic and I wish I could have recorded it, transcribed it, and put it on a golden plaque.
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The best thing about homestuck is that for probably a couple of thousand pages now Hussie has been abundantly clear about how much he dislikes the fanbase, including adding fourteen characters who exist largely to symbolize their general failings as people (dancestors/cherubs). And they don't fucking get it! He even did a thing where he said all Trickster Mode characters (don't ask) were canonically Caucasian, which upset people who'd been circlejerking over ~how inclusive it was~ more or less just because he thought it would be funny.

Lots of terrible people in the fandom talk about how they can't read the comic anymore because it's so problematic now, and they don't disavow liking it, they somehow like it in spite of its creator. And it has that thing internet shutins gravitate to, where you can make an Original Character Donut Steel with a few palette swaps in a doll program and talk about how your fantroll is so special and wonderful and has the best blood colour and would be moirails with everyone and sparkle fucking sparkle, because you've found a shortcut to skip out on coming up with anything that could possibly be construed as a rounded character by a half-blind tortoise with no conception of the idea of a Mary Sue, and then you can go to a convention or whatthefuckever and sexually assault strangers and get that fucking grey Ben Nye body paint all over everything and it's all cool, it's all fine, your internet hugbox justifies your terrible fucking opinions. Homestuck's fandom is the fucking worst, and I say this fully knowing I'm posting in the thread for the brony episode.

(And then there's the weird appropriation of gnostic mysticism and the actual earnest wannabe juggalos and the fucking assholes who misappropriate genuine activist terminology to explain why none of the characters could possibly be non-white and through it all, there's actually some really neat fan stuff out there too, and sometimes it's almost worth it. It isn't, though, not really.)

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Homestuck seems to share quite a lot with MLP, in that both have some genuinely talented people involved in the fandom producing quality fanworks, but these individuals are hugely overshadowed by the creepy nerds who appropriate everything in the original to reflect their own interests and shut-in point of view. The only thing that makes HS fans slightly better than bronies is that the official community has very strict rules about art involving minors in sexual situations, as well as minor/adult pairings. Sure, that stuff still exists in Tumblr and other shitholes like that, but at least nobody is openly campaigning for their moral right to draw inflation vore porn about 12-year-olds.

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Can we have Trinket Vaginer become the F Plus's version of Philomena Cunk?

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They almost parallel in a way.

MLP is a very simple show* aimed at youngsters, with an adult fanbase that overmonster cockyzes everything, churns out grimdark and edgy fanworks, and basically believes their series is secretly a super intelligent masterpiece with unseen depth.

Homestuck is a comically overplotted series aimed at, I would estimate, a 17+ at least audience, with a teenage fanbase that skips/ignores any part of the story that doesn't involve shipping or feels.

*I've only seen a few eps, and wasn't really paying attention, so maybe there is some kind of long-ranging arc I didn't pick up on.

Also, while HS fans might not be quite as pervy, they can definitely be entitled too. Back when I actually paid attention to such things I saw a few instances of people getting really huffy and mad that they were asked not to sell their own merchandise based on the series, like character outfits, troll horns, etc. Because if the official store isn't selling them RIGHT NOW, the fans have a right to the intellectual property!

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Poor idea of intellectual property rights is a problem among nerds in general.

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Also, while HS fans might not be quite as pervy,
Garbage Dacey, December 28, 2013, 01:31:55 am

I have seen things that contest this.

Oh lord the stories I could tell about Homestuck fans: I have been following this thing since it started and I have seen some shit. A convention banning cosplay because Homestuck fans are socially ill-adapted morons; that alternate fan-universe thing where everyone is fat and fucks each other; that weird, psuedo-ironic mpreg concept album; the infamous video of a bunch of troll cosplayers spitting into a communal bucket at a sushi restaurant; the list goes on.

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Absolutely true, but we are comparing them with bronies here. It's one of those "dropping a 10-pound rock on your foot is not as bad as having it crushed in a hydraulic press" comparisons.